Unication G2 Scan - P25 Conventional

[firemedic834]

Asking for some guidance, with scanning two P25 conventional frequencies. The frequencies are each set to a single knob position and receive radio traffic with no problem. I assigned the frequencies to the same knob position with the receiving mode set to normal scan. I'm unable to receive on either frequency when the pager is set to the knob position programmed for normal scan. What did I miss?

 

[tweiss3]

You need to use 3 knob positions, 1 for each frequency, and the 3rd is normal scan with both knobs in the list.

 

[firemedic834]

You need to use 3 knob positions, 1 for each frequency, and the 3rd is normal scan with both knobs in the list

 

[firemedic834]

Right, that is how it is programmed. Each frequency is set its own knob position. The third knob position is set to normal scan with both knob positions in the list. It doesn't receive radio traffic on either when on the scan knob.

 

[firemedic834]

Does anybody have anything else to share about this? There seems to be a missing step in the set-up somewhere. If both P25 conventional frequencies receive individually on a knob position, why do they not receive when combined to a scan list on a knob position?

 

[brndnstffrd]

Does anybody have anything else to share about this? There seems to be a missing step in the set-up somewhere. If both P25 conventional frequencies receive individually on a knob position, why do they not receive when combined to a scan list on a knob position?

If you still didn't find a solution to this, if you want to send me your codeplug I can take a look at it for you and see if I see anything.

 

[RaleighGuy]

Does anybody have anything else to share about this? There seems to be a missing step in the set-up somewhere. If both P25 conventional frequencies receive individually on a knob position, why do they not receive when combined to a scan list on a knob position?

Are you using same or different NAC and TGs, what about same or different Group List?

 

[firemedic834]

Are you using same or different NAC and TGs, what about same or different Group List?

They are different NACs. It is P25 non-trunking, so no talk groups. Different group list.

 

[firemedic834]

If you still didn't find a solution to this, if you want to send me your codeplug I can take a look at it for you and see if I see anything.

I sent you a PM asking for your email address.

 

[RaleighGuy]

They are different NACs. It is P25 non-trunking, so no talk groups. Different group list.

If you aren't using talk groups what is in the group list ? Also, P25 conventional would need a TG even if it is just the wildcard TG 65535.

 

[firemedic834]

If you aren't using talk groups what is in the group list ? Also, P25 conventional would need a TG even if it is just the wi

Each frequency has its own group. Would you be interested in looking at the code-plug?

 

[K9KLC]

Each frequency has its own group. Would you be interested in looking at the code-plug?

I'm sure if you post it up someone will look at it. Did you download it from the Radio reference Data base or is this something you're trying to enter manually? I've never had any problems doing P-25 "Conventional" and Analog scanning in the one Zone I do that in occasionally.
Also unless I've missed it I haven't seen you post "what" you're actually trying to receive. Help us help you and provide a little info here.

 

[firemedic834]

I'm sure if you post it up someone will look at it. Did you download it from the Radio reference Data base or is this something you're trying to enter manually? I've never had any problems doing P-25 "Conventional" and Analog scanning in the one Zone I do that in occasionally.
Also unless I've missed it I haven't seen you post "what" you're actually trying to receive. Help us help you and provide a little info here.

It is a code plug I entered manually. I'm trying to scan two P25C frequencies. The code-plug file is attached.

 

[firemedic834]

It is a code plug I entered manually. I'm trying to scan two P25C frequencies. The code-plug file is attached.

It is a code plug I entered manually. I'm trying to scan two P25C frequencies. The code-plug file is attached.

 

[RaleighGuy]

It is a code plug I entered manually. I'm trying to scan two P25C frequencies. The code-plug file is attached.

Attached where?

When using P25C you must set up the Conventional Group ID List in E6-1 even if it is the TG wildcard of 65535



You then need to group the TGIDs from E6-1 into E6-2 TGID Grouping List



Finally in E7 when you enter the single frequency you select the TGID grouping list from E6-2 into the bottom of the Zone/Channel entry in E7

 

[RaleighGuy]

One issue I see is the entry in this section should be TONE and NONE where I underlined in red. Also in E-4 you do not need to create a different protocol for each frequency, you do 1 for P25C, one for Tone, 2 for DMR (slot 1 and slot 2), and one for the rest.

 

[K9KLC]

The code-plug file is attached.

Not photos of the actual PPS file.

 

[firemedic834]

The struggle bus continues with this. Both P25 frequencies receive normally on a single knob position. Neither will receive when combined on a knob position for scanning. I'm lost!

 

[K9KLC]

Again, you have not told is exactly what you are trying to receive and you have not posted your code plug. The partial pics you have posted help some but do not tell the whole story. We need the whole story to help.

Also why not use the radio reference import feature and import into a new zone and knob positions the two things you're trying to scan. You can always move them later to wherever you want.

How about some help from you, to help you.

 

[brndnstffrd]

One issue I see is the entry in this section should be TONE and NONE where I underlined in red. Also in E-4 you do not need to create a different protocol for each frequency, you do 1 for P25C, one for Tone, 2 for DMR (slot 1 and slot 2), and one for the rest.

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I had looked at a copy of his codeplug, and already corrected this.
Repeater Mode in tab E7 was also not selected. Fixing both of these didn't change his results.

The only thing that varies in his codeplug from your instructions were that both TGs were each listed as a separate Group ID list instead of together, referring to this step:

You then need to group the TGIDs from E6-1 into E6-2 TGID Grouping List

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In theory, it shouldn't make a difference, since each knob position is pointing to the correct talkgroup, and scanning references the knobs not the Grouping List, but its worth a shot.