Uniden SDS100 DMR Programming

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Please excuse me if I am posting this in the wrong section. If I am please guide me to the right area. I currently work for a School Bus Contractor in Charles County, Maryland. We purchased a Uniden SDS100 with DMR enabled so that she can monitor her buses while she is on the move without having to purchase a DMR radio. We used the zip code programming and enabled School tag so that we were able to get the school bus frequencies. We keyed up her base radio and nothing comes across the scanner. I posted in the Maryland forum asking if the system was encrypted and was told it is not. I was told that there is 2 other frequencies listed that are for the system but arent in the RR table for this system. 151.0625 and 152.4425. Someone else commented (If you add those frequencies, you'll also need to run the LCN finder (successfully). Otherwise, the Uniden will just ignore them anyway.) I am at this point completely lost and hoping that someone can help us.

Thanks for your time.
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Youve come to right area and welcome to RadioReference.com

It is a cap plus system
The radio system is a trunking type so it needs to be entered in as motoTRBO trunk
Looks like you will need the LCN for each of four frequencies:
151.6025
152.4425
152.9825
154.5475

It is a dmr vhf trunked system. The sds100 has a LCN finder on it but i never used it much and i never used it for vhf channels. Hopefully someone that has used it in this manner will chime in in. You could try to add the other 2 missing channels you listed. Try LCN 3 and 4 for the missing channels. They would be entered under the site selection of that radio system already programmed in.
 
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Please excuse me if I am posting this in the wrong section. If I am please guide me to the right area. I currently work for a School Bus Contractor in Charles County, Maryland. We purchased a Uniden SDS100 with DMR enabled so that she can monitor her buses while she is on the move without having to purchase a DMR radio. We used the zip code programming and enabled School tag so that we were able to get the school bus frequencies. We keyed up her base radio and nothing comes across the scanner. I posted in the Maryland forum asking if the system was encrypted and was told it is not. I was told that there is 2 other frequencies listed that are for the system but arent in the RR table for this system. 151.0625 and 152.4425. Someone else commented (If you add those frequencies, you'll also need to run the LCN finder (successfully). Otherwise, the Uniden will just ignore them anyway.) I am at this point completely lost and hoping that someone can help us.

Thanks for your time.
Terrance
Your best bet is to add the additional frequencies to the system, and then run the LCN Finder.
Press the Menu button on the left side of the scanner.
Scroll down to Analyze & press E(enter/yes) to select it.
Scroll to LCN finder & press E again to select
The scanner will ask for the name of the system. Enter that by using the scroll knob for letters. Use the arrows by the 'soft keys' (directly under the display) to move the cursor left or right
Press E once you have entered the first few letters of the system name
If you have more than one system that contain the same letters as you've entered, scroll to the correct one and press E to select.
Next, scroll to and select the correct site for the system if there is more than one. If only one, make sure it is selected & press E again.

Now, the scanner will monitor the system to determine the LCN's in use. They may not be 1-2-3-4, but can be any of various combinations such as 1-2-5-8.

If you have four frequencies entered, at first you'll see "Found LCN 0/4" with the system name underneath.

As it identifies LCN's, that will update to 1/84, 2/4, etc. If it finds all four, you'll see a note that all have been found, & have an option to save the findings. Once you've found all the channels, either read the scanner into Sentinel, to collect the information, or, using the menus, "edit" the system & site on the scanner, to find which frequencies are on what LCN.

Note that finding the LCN's can be time consuming. The system needs to have at least moderate activity for this to work, but not so much that it's too heavily loaded to get an accurate LCN finding. As this is a school system, there would likely not be enough traffic to determine the LCN's on days and times the schools are not in session, such as overnight. Since this is a bus system, your best bet is to start maybe an hour or so before the first classes let out, as drivers get in their buses & head for their assigned pickup points.

If this is your system,https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=7852 , there are four frequencies listed on their license.
 
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You could have, and still can, get a $100 TierII DMR radio and program in 8 channels with those frequencies and 2 time slots and selected to scan the bus talk groups. The SDS100 will go deaf if you key up a transmitter close by to try and monitor a frequency in the same frequency band.

On the other hand a Whistler scanner doesn't need any LCN finder and complex programming to be able to monitor a DMR system.

Maybe the latest Uniden offer wasn't the best choice for a simple task that only needs the bare minimum of features and requires a robust and interfere free receiver. A Tytera MD380 is a robust radio that you can toss around without it getting damaged and has easy to change batteries and comes with a drop in charger that can be powered from 12v.

To check that you have a working scanner, program the frequencies as a One Frequency DMR system that doesn't care about LCN numbering. I really don't know what you would gain by programming those four frequencies as a trunked system.

/Ubbe
 
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