Unknown EMS talkgroups

sonm10

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I have a couple unknown talkgroups that are EMS related

TG 2159 affiliations only RIDs 176xxx
TG 21660 dispatched by M Health, units are RID 534xxx, with an alias of EMSNF -3xx-xx

I do live along I-94 in rural MN, so I do see occasional EMS traffic enroute to Fargo
Any help IDing these would be appreciated
 

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21660 is Northfield EMS. City just south of the MSP metro, city owned hospital/ambulance service. Only part time paramedic coverage so some calls get mutual aided out to North/Allina. They do a fair amount of psych inter-facility transfers so that's probably why you are seeing them up in your neck of the woods.
 

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yeah, i haven't grabbed any voice traffic on it and affiliations are pretty minimal. i wonder if it is similar to 10070 that is basically a dummy talkgroup for when a subscriber unit is on a 'vacant' channel in their fleetmap, but then their radio doesn't log off the system.
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yeah, i haven't grabbed any voice traffic on it and affiliations are pretty minimal. i wonder if it is similar to 10070 that is basically a dummy talkgroup for when a subscriber unit is on a 'vacant' channel in their fleetmap, but then their radio doesn't log off the system.
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Without someone adding more specifics my guess would be these are radios that users are forgetting to switch to a roam channel and dragging traffic to non-affiliated towers.

The two EMSLL-H-352LL lines are one of their helicopters (176085 - LL10 Rush City). Air Methods floats their helis around all of On 4/12 they flew out of St Paul up to Blaine and were on the ground for a half hour (refueling) before flying up to Rush City. June 12th was 3 flights with the first two looking like more training ops flying out and around Rush City. I'd guess the pilot wasn't worried or thinking about the patient care radios and didn't switch them to the proper channels.

Cross referenced your call log with flight logs on FlightRadar24 and combing through the linked BCFY Calls archive of each source id around each timestamp.

More digging:

176081 - LL7 Duluth (Crew radio)
176090 - LL4 (Crew radio)
176156 - LL4 helicopter based out of Blaine Anoka (Pilot)
176158 - LL8 out of Brainerd
176159 - LL1 Fixed Wing - (Pilot Radio) - 5/28 flight from RST-ANE
 

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Life Link has talkgroup IDs 2155,2157&2159.
Future growth channels identified in their 2023 update were EMSLL : Tac 1 & Tac 2 , FLT-C. They are updating radios which are the new176### - so these future talkgroups may now be showing up.
 
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