Utah switching to P25 phase II in 3 to 4 months.

fireparamed1

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I had my car and handheld radios updated today. (They are adding 3 zones of the new system into each radio for coverage testing, they are not being monitored or used for any calls). From what the tech's told me, each department will have the final say on how much or what they decide to encrypt or not. I will tell you, I am betting that based on the tech's thoughts, the majority if not all of the police channels will be encrypted. They are uploading the encryption key into every radio on the system so they can flip the switch whenever they want for any TG at the users request. They even said that some of the fire departments are asking about encryption on the Medical Response channels to help with percieved HIPPA compliance. I really fear that the end of scanning public safety is coming.
 

bhall7

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Uh oh...that's not good. Thanks for the update, though.
 

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I am surprised that anybody that is working on this new Harris system upgrade does not chime in about the balance or un balanced approach with the talkgroups being in the clear or not. I am pretty sure they have that all worked out and done and signed off by now on what is clear and what will not be clear statewide.
 

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Since we already started to see "TE" Phase II TDMA testing then we know it's coming in some sort of way and fashion. Get ready

Don't be surprised if its more than what people thought it would be. Sign of the times.
 

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I've been hearing law enforcement units entering the Wasatch National Forest on the Mirror Lake Highway (Hwy 150) tell dispatch they are "switching to Bald Mountain." Gives me hope there will still be VHF links.
 

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I have a question should the new 700 meg L3 harris be transmitting a control ch just like the old 800 dose i know my scanner does work. on these new systems because i can pick up none enc talk groups was listing to p25 xtdma groups when i was in the Fort worth TX just fine last Feb also that is why i will not buy a new scanner until we know what is going to be enc or not enc
 

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I've been hearing law enforcement units entering the Wasatch National Forest on the Mirror Lake Highway (Hwy 150) tell dispatch they are "switching to Bald Mountain." Gives me hope there will still be VHF links.

I'm in Box Elder and I'm pretty sure they are also sticking with VHF, this is a huge county cornering from Nevada to Idaho. I use VHF to monitor all the time. I think I read a document saying they had securing funding to keep VHF alive. I'm trying to find that doc, it was on the UCA website.
 
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I'm sure in areas where coverage is scarce it would require vhf coverage. I'm not sure how they will handle alot of the areas. garfield county has a site on vhf called copper that they switch too cuz 800mhz coverage isn't covered there, Scofield has boarding house and its vhf. County does have a digital vhf on boarding house. but state has analog vhf there.. I'm sure there are other areas where vhf will be the only way unless they plan on putting a 700mhz site on every little crook and cranny of the state...
 

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i due believe that everyone is switching to the new system there are grants for department to get radios that can not afford to buy and there are sites in box elder with 700 turned on all ready
 
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