AR-DV10 very serious hardware issue

[prcguy]

I agree completely. It doesn't matter what culture designed and manufactured the product, if it has problems and the public finds out, they have to fix it or suffer a huge loss in sales.

AOR has a lot of money invested in the DV10 and the only reason it or any other AOR product exists is for the shareholders of AOR to make a profit. If nothing else happens except for sales dropping way below what AOR predicted, they will feel the pain and hopefully make changes to boost potential customers trust in the product and get sales going again. If not then the DV10 will go the way of the dinosaur and will become a good example of what not to do in the scanner/receiver market.

I also think current owners should spread out onto other radio sites and post reviews pointing out the current problems. Sites like Eham where prospective buyers might do a Google search on "AOR DV10 review" and they will not be able to miss the endless negative but truthful reviews of the product and not buy it until the reviews go positive.

You are confused, im the paying customer that has to rub shoulders and polish their toothpicks? I don’t need to understand their culture, they do EU/US sales.. they should learn our culture, not the otherway around

 

[c0ne]

They are feeling pain already...so let's hope it all get's sorted and turned around sooner rather than later.

I hope they do, they have to realize the longer it takes the more damage is done. It never should have got this far anyways. The are wasting everything the build over the years. Consumer trust is important, and as it is today thats going down fast.

 

[c0ne]

Can you still return yours or will you hang in longer ?

I can not, unless i take it to court.

 

[c0ne]

There is a gap between being in your rights and getting them, thats where court comes into play

 

[palmerjrusa]

This is exactly what I have done - however I spent the money and bought the unit last week (although missed the courier drop off yesterday). I will hang in there for a while until the next 1-2 updates in the hope that they iron out any bugs and see how bad the drift is. I'll also run all tests to and publish here for everyone - including internal photo's.

For a 40 odd year company I don't believe AOR would intentionally do this, of course something is not right for some users so far, but I'm willing to give them some leeway to see how the firmware updates go.

I skipped the DV1 originally as it had all sorts of issues, for the most part they ironed those out over time.

I will get the ICR30 also, it's extremely good value for money compared to the DV10. If Icom are wanting to dominate they will update some of the digital formats if possible and they will have the market. They are a very solid manufacturer and always have been.

Please keep us informed with the results of your tests.
Be very interested to see what you find.

Agree, Icom makes some great ham radio equipment, I recently splurged on an ic-r8600 and it's an incredible receiver, they've packed one hell of a lot of features into it with the technical specs to match.

 

[G7HID]

Just leave it to charge up..

Mike

 

[F5HPE]

OK - very odd, took battery off and put back on again - unit powers up unit on now. More updates to come.

The very first full charge is very important to optimise the battery life time.
This is why reading the manual before playing with his toy is very important.

 

[palmerjrusa]

The very first full charge is very important to optimise the battery life time.
This is why reading the manual before playing with his toy is very important.

What is the basis for this claim?

Are you talking about the overall useful life span of a lithium ion cell as opposed to it's operational functionality in a single discharge cycle?

 

[concord1982]

If you want to get something from a Japanese, you have to know how to be humble and discreet. You have to rub shoulders with the Japanese, understand their culture, put your pride aside, and finally simply love people to discuss with them and be polite.
すみません

Japanese is a wise, reasonable person who takes the time to understand, analyze and think before positioning and building. He's not an impulsive person like a European or an American

If instead of taking the time to share with them, if you unpack everything in the public square, then in the eyes of the Japanese you lose all honor and credibility and you are no longer worthy of their interest because you disrespect yourself.

To act like a conquering knight who fires the citadel does not frighten them.

This is exactly how I said this, but with other words, in a FB group and got bashed for it. The more you hammer and insist on that culture, the less you will receive. The the contrary.

 

[F5HPE]

This is exactly how I said this, but with other words, in a FB group and got bashed for it. The more you hammer and insist on that culture, the less you will receive. The the contrary.

Thanks for your support. On this forum, I denounced, proof to support, manipulations and other mishandled malpractices.

In return I received a volley of green wood!

It is obvious that the more the critics are asserb, the more the respects and the credibility are granted.
Although unfortunately, it is the one who makes the first dirty grime in the white snow that passes for the one who rightly.

 

[hamradionl]

If you want to get something from a Japanese, you have to know how to be humble and discreet. You have to rub shoulders with the Japanese, understand their culture, put your pride aside, and finally simply love people to discuss with them and be polite.
すみません

Japanese is a wise, reasonable person who takes the time to understand, analyze and think before positioning and building. He's not an impulsive person like a European or an American

If instead of taking the time to share with them, if you unpack everything in the public square, then in the eyes of the Japanese you lose all honor and credibility and you are no longer worthy of their interest because you disrespect yourself.

To act like a conquering knight who fires the citadel does not frighten them.

yes on this point you are correct.
BTW a long time ago the Dutch where the only people the Japanese like to trade with

 

[vickersvc10]

Any updates on AOR ARDV10 problems?

 

[c0ne]

Its also worth mentioning that the 50Hz, is the result of a customized firmware. We have optimized the firmware to stay closer to its intended frequency. Before that its was more or less 200hz off.

Every device has a different PLL base offset, therefore we cannot make a generic patch for all devices.

If you are interested in these developments, join our facebook group. I can freely speak there without being moderated all the time

c0ne

 

[woodpecker]

Discussions on the DV10 are better off in the Facebook group, for some reason all the posts on here are ridiculously moderated, maybe AOR or Yaesu are paying to have posts moderated and supressed.