VSP Tactical frequencies

[studgeman]

Well I looked it up. I cant figure out the exact cite, but it is burried below the table of frequencies in 90.20

(e) Additional frequencies available. In addition to the frequencies shown in the frequency table of this section, the following frequencies are available in this service. (See also § 90.253.)

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(5) A Police licensee may use, without special authorization from the Commission, any mobile service frequency between 40 and 952 MHz, listed in paragraph (c)(3) of this section, for
communications in connection with physical surveillance, stakeouts, raids, and other such activities. Such use shall be on a secondary basis to operations of licensees regularly authorized on the assigned frequencies. The maximum output power that may be used
for such communications is 2 watts. Transmitters, operating under this provision
of the rules, shall be exempted from the station identification requirements of § 90.425. Use of frequencies not designated by a ‘‘PP’’ in the coordinator column of the frequency table in paragraph (c)(3) of this section, is conditional on the approval of the coordinator
corresponding to each frequency.

 

[DaveNF2G]

Where did your attorney get his interpretation? There is no "emergency" restriction. Here is the relevant law, from LexisNexis (with emphasis added in bold text):

FCC Rules, Part 90, 47 C.F.R. §90.20 (f)(5):

A Police licensee may use, without special authorization from the Commission, any mobile service frequency between 40 and 952 MHz, listed in paragraph (c)(3) of this section, for communications in connection with physical surveillance, stakeouts, raids, and other such activities. Such use shall be on a secondary basis to operations of licensees regularly authorized on the assigned frequencies. The maximum output power that may be used for such communications is 2 watts. Transmitters, operating under this provision of the rules, shall be exempted from the station identification requirements of § 90.425. Use of frequencies not designated by a "PP" in the coordinator column of the frequency table in paragraph (c)(3) of this section, is conditional on the approval of the coordinator corresponding to each frequency. Spread spectrum transmitters may be operated on Public Safety Pool frequencies between 37 and 952 MHz, providing that they are certificated by the Commission under the provisions of § 2.803 of this chapter and § 90.203, and meet the following conditions:

(i) Frequency hopping transmitters can be operated, with a maximum output power of 2 watts, on any Public Safety Pool frequency between 37 and 952 MHz listed in paragraph (c)(3) of this section. At least 20 hopping frequencies shall be used and the average time of occupancy on any frequency shall not be greater than 1/10 second in every 2 seconds;

(ii) Use of spread spectrum transmitters under paragraph (f)(4) of this section is subject to approval by the applicable frequency coordinator of the radio services of the district in which the license and equipment are to be used; and

(iii) The use of direct sequence spread spectrum equipment is also permitted. Equipment must meet the technical standards of § 15.247 of this chapter.

 

[58006]

Vermont quiet??

Vermont is not as dormant as one might think. Presently the feeling that nothing happens in Vermont has helped proliferate drug trafficking. Currently the majority of drugs that come and go from Vermont come via the Adirondack Northway (I-87) and pass through Washington County by way of SR 149 and SR 4. There are several meth labs thought to be in western Rutland County and a large one was recently raided in the town of Hampton, Washington County.
The village of Whitehall Police Department in the last couple of months have had a couple of BIG drug busts as the result of VTL stops on people coming or going to VT, with the intent to sell. Just my gee wiz input…

Dave 154.250 PL 131.8 "State Dispatch" for Rutland County for the departments not dispatched by Washington County NY on 154.160.

Some more gee wiz info..All state police communications for the Rutland, Shaftsbury, or Middlebury Barracks originate from Rutland, even when using the identifier of “Shaftsbury” or “Middlebury” the dispatcher is actually in Rutland.

 

[DaveNF2G]

Thanks for the ID, and the other details!

 

[studgeman]

Lets not forget about the Canadian imports!!! I have actually been up in the 911 center in Williston. It is quite the operation. Vermont has its act together better than alot of states or areas.

 

[MB]

Vermont is not as dormant as one might think. Presently the feeling that nothing happens in Vermont has helped proliferate drug trafficking. Currently the majority of drugs that come and go from Vermont come via the Adirondack Northway (I-87) and pass through Washington County by way of SR 149 and SR 4. There are several meth labs thought to be in western Rutland County and a large one was recently raided in the town of Hampton, Washington County.
The village of Whitehall Police Department in the last couple of months have had a couple of BIG drug busts as the result of VTL stops on people coming or going to VT, with the intent to sell. Just my gee wiz input…

Dave 154.250 PL 131.8 "State Dispatch" for Rutland County for the departments not dispatched by Washington County NY on 154.160.

Some more gee wiz info..All state police communications for the Rutland, Shaftsbury, or Middlebury Barracks originate from Rutland, even when using the identifier of “Shaftsbury” or “Middlebury” the dispatcher is actually in Rutland.

Like I said in my earlier post on this thread, there is alot more criminal activity in Vermont then everyone thinks. Gangs, heroin, crystal meth and other drugs are a big problem - especially in the Rutland and Burlington areas. The drugs travel up and down the main "drug pipeline" (the Adirondack Northway). Just look at how many drug busts they make at the Border Patrol Check Point on I87 (The Adirondack Northway). And this is only a part time check point! Just imagine all the drugs that make it through!

So, tactical communication are very prevalant in the Champlaine Valley of New York and Vermont!

 

[studgeman]

For monitors it is too bad you cannot listen to border/ICE. There is alot of intersting information and activity that happens on that channel. With that being said, and understanding the type of criminal activity that occurs on the New York/Veromon border, I can understand why that channel needs to be encrypted. There are some pretty nasty and smart sumgglers up there.

MB you are absolutly right, people do not give enough credit for the ammount of criminal activity that occurs in that region. Been there and seen it!!!

 

[MB]

For monitors it is too bad you cannot listen to border/ICE. There is alot of intersting information and activity that happens on that channel. With that being said, and understanding the type of criminal activity that occurs on the New York/Veromon border, I can understand why that channel needs to be encrypted. There are some pretty nasty and smart sumgglers up there.

MB you are absolutly right, people do not give enough credit for the ammount of criminal activity that occurs in that region. Been there and seen it!!!

I would love to be able to monitor Border/ICE!

Actually, people don't give Law Enforcement personnel enough credit. They have to deal with those scum bags on a daily bassis!