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Walmart no longer MURS

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I sincerely doubt that. Before the Big E, I listened to local public safety. I retired from the local PD after 30+ years and I sometimes kept track of some of my former co-workers. Now, I don't listen nearly as much. I have the scanners and maybe it's just me but I have no interest in communications at Walmart, McDonalds, the local taxis or my neighbor's baby monitor. For those that do, happy scanning.
Agreed. If we were to go encrypted here I'd have a lot is stuff for sale. While I occasionally get in a mood for some aircraft stuff, it's the public service I'm interested In. For those that do like the other stuff, great carry on!!

I do a fair amount of HF listening here and there but obviously that involves other equipment than I use for scanning PS.
 

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According to my knowledge, the 900MHZ is licensed by rule, not individual or organization. Maybe I'm mistaken, but I guess Retailers such as Wal-Mart got tired of chasing non-Wal-Mart personnel off their frequency, which no one really has ownership to specific frequency. Then again, switching to 900MHZ Band has the same pros and cons. Those radios don't have a lot of range compared to FRS or MURS. The older 49mhz radios had similar range to the 900MHZ FHSS Radios.
Wait til Customers start walking around with their Own Curve talkies lol, not that anyone would do that! I had a manager tell me, the most they can do is trespass you if you're in their store with one.
 

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had a manager tell me, the most they can do is trespass you if you're in their store with one.
On what grounds? Simply walking in with one on your belt means nothing. I know if a couple of local guys using those for construction stuff.

Not that being trespassed from Wal Mart would be a bad thing but still. They'd play hell proving anything just because you had one.

Most people I know personally wouldn't give 1¢ to hear what's going on there on the radios.
 

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For me the thrill of listening to (insert store name here) is not the content but the fun in the hunt.

As for trespassing someone from a store, they do not need to prove anything. Their corporate rules probably give guidelines on the reasons and process but once you are told that you are trespassed you have to leave, and if you don't all they have to prove is that you were warned and failed to leave. All the police need to arrest you is a reasonable belief, it is in court then that it would need to be proven.
 

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For me the thrill of listening to (insert store name here) is not the content but the fun in the hunt.

As for trespassing someone from a store, they do not need to prove anything. Their corporate rules probably give guidelines on the reasons and process but once you are told that you are trespassed you have to leave, and if you don't all they have to prove is that you were warned and failed to leave. All the police need to arrest you is a reasonable belief, it is in court then that it would need to be proven.
Ok...
 

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For me the thrill of listening to (insert store name here) is not the content but the fun in the hunt.


to steal from the TV News
if it bleeds it leads, so for us if it transmits we find and identify.

I could never understand how anyone who visits here, would even have information with out the searchers.
 

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I could never understand how anyone who visits here, would even have information with out the searchers.
True and I don't mind the searching part, but once it's found and appropriate notifications made, I'm out on that kind of stuff. I like finding unknown business frequencies also, been able to come up with a few here and there thru out the years, so ya, it's all fun!
 

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OMG! Does all this mean I'm not gonna be able to hear "Cleanup on aisle 5" anymore?

Dang it. I won't be able to use my boofweng radio to mess with friends that work at Wally World anymore. :ROFLMAO:
 

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On what grounds? Simply walking in with one on your belt means nothing. I know if a couple of local guys using those for construction stuff.

Not that being trespassed from Wal Mart would be a bad thing but still. They'd play hell proving anything just because you had one.

Most people I know personally wouldn't give 1¢ to hear what's going on there on the radios.
IF you were to interfere with their store comms, by communicating or bothering employees, legally they could trespass you, but that would be rare and surprising.
 

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IF you were to interfere with their store comms, by communicating or bothering employees, legally they could trespass you, but that would be rare and surprising.
You also don't need to be in the store to do that, I talked to the store manager here and he said there are a lot of people come in with HT's, if we trespassed them all, we'd loose a lot of business and that would be silly. IF we actually caught them in the store in the act perhaps we'd do something but, they can sit in on the public street at the edge and do the same thing. It's radio, you don't need to be in the store to actually interfere.

There's a guy in our town that can no longer get a ham license or any other FCC type of license. He was caught messing with ISP on a Motorola Trunking radio. He also messed with most the drive thru's and Walmart. He was usually some distance away to avoid getting caught as quick, or being obvious about it.
 

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On what grounds? Simply walking in with one on your belt means nothing. I know if a couple of local guys using those for construction stuff.

Not that being trespassed from Wal Mart would be a bad thing but still. They'd play hell proving anything just because you had one.

Most people I know personally wouldn't give 1¢ to hear what's going on there on the radios.
A business does not need to have a reason to trespass a person from the premises. If they (store) wants someone removed from the premises, they (trespassee) will be removed and the trespassee does not have recourse and if the trespassee refuses to leave on their own accord, the trespassee will be removed by force and arrested.
 

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FRS channel 3 in my neck of the woods. :cool:
Convenient, and they likely have replacement radios in stock if one were lost/damaged.
You also don't need to be in the store to do that, I talked to the store manager here and he said there are a lot of people come in with HT's, if we trespassed them all, we'd loose a lot of business and that would be silly. IF we actually caught them in the store in the act perhaps we'd do something but, they can sit in on the public street at the edge and do the same thing. It's radio, you don't need to be in the store to actually interfere.

There's a guy in our town that can no longer get a ham license or any other FCC type of license. He was caught messing with ISP on a Motorola Trunking radio. He also messed with most the drive thru's and Walmart. He was usually some distance away to avoid getting caught as quick, or being obvious about it.

Many people use radios for their professions and are required have the radios with them when they are working. It would make no sense to trespass anyone and everyone who walks in with a handheld radio.

I don't understand the mindset of people that want to wreak havoc on radio systems. But you're right, one can be well away from the store to interfere. Someone would have to be pretty dense to actively interfere from inside the store, but there are all types.
 

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A business does not need to have a reason to trespass a person from the premises. If they (store) wants someone removed from the premises, they (trespassee) will be removed and the trespassee does not have recourse and if the trespassee refuses to leave on their own accord, the trespassee will be removed by force and arrested.
Furthermore, this is almost universal in this country. Some states have softened it somewhat by giving a citation for a first offense and arrest for subsequent violations. If an arrest occurs, it almost always involves a second charge of resisting arrest or obstruction of justice because if the person was cooperative, they would have left when first told. The elements of the crime do not specify business, government or private property and in most cases, doesn't require prior notification.

Criminal trespass seems to be one of the few things in common law that has pretty much remained unchanged.
 

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A business does not need to have a reason to trespass a person from the premises. If they (store) wants someone removed from the premises, they (trespassee) will be removed and the trespassee does not have recourse and if the trespassee refuses to leave on their own accord, the trespassee will be removed by force and arrested.
While I understand this, the pretense of this is going into a store with a Walkie Talkie. I checked with my store manager and posted what he said in a different post. I am well aware of the legalities of what a business can, and cannot do, I also know about the police enforcing it. You trespass enough people for stupid stuff and you'll start loosing money. Some people at the local level need the revenue it affects their paychecks. (or even jobs).

This is about RADIO....again, you do NOT need to be in the store, or even on their property to cause a problem on a RADIO. Given the amount of amateur modified radios, I'm sure 50 watts VHF can create problems from quite some distance. That's what the fellow that did it in town here did.
 

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Convenient, and they likely have replacement radios in stock if one were lost/damaged.


Many people use radios for their professions and are required have the radios with them when they are working. It would make no sense to trespass anyone and everyone who walks in with a handheld radio.

I don't understand the mindset of people that want to wreak havoc on radio systems. But you're right, one can be well away from the store to interfere. Someone would have to be pretty dense to actively interfere from inside the store, but there are all types.
At least the store in my town here isn't looking to trespass anyone with a radio on their belt. This thing has gone way off course. I totally understand a business can tell someone to get out (read trespass) and not return for any reason they wish. I've done it when I had my shop. Also I was called when I was a police officer to remove people that had been told not to return.

I'm pretty familiar with how it all works. MY only question that had to do with this had more to do with a manager's mindset, I used "on what grounds" but ideally it's "why" would he do that. Also Wal Mart does not have "trespassing anyone with a radio" on their list of reasons to do that. At least the store here does not. I don't know how universal that list is.

Now back to the original title of this.....
 

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Now back to the original title of this.....

I have not found the frequency for the Walmart here in town. Got to make it a point to try and get a look at one of their radios whenever I'm back there, which is not often. However, the one in neighboring Kearny, NJ is still on 154.570
 
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