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n1das

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I remember back in the day when Wal-Mart had FCC Licenses for the same frequencies in all 50 states. They've let those licenses expire a while ago. Florida was WNYF926, New York was WNYH621 and there's all the others. Good Times, Good Times!!!!!!

They probably expired and couldn't be renewed due to the creating of VHF MURS. The easiest thing for Walmart* to do was to simply stay there and not have to worry about licensing anymore.

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Yep. I've seen a couple of them too. If Walmart* only knew the kind of legal trouble they could potentially get into for using non-compliant radios if the FCC decided to act in response to complaints.

Don't worry, their a big enough corporate giant that probably nothing would even happen to them. Probably a slap on the wrist.
 
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Walmart* years ago and back when in the days when it was WAL(star)MART used the Motorola XTN series VHF business radios. These radios included the MURS channels in addition to 22 other popular VHF business freqs. I don't recall what they used back when it was WAL-MART. The VHF XTN sereis radios are squeaky clean and legal as MURS radios today. They are grandfathered Part 90 equipment that meets requirements for MURS use. The XTN series was discontinued several years ago.

XTN series:
https://www.motorolasolutions.com/e...adios/discontinued/xv2100.html#tabproductinfo

Lately I've been seeing RMM2050 MURS radios in use in Walmart* stores. I've also seen the display version used too (I forget the exact model). All of them that I've encountered at different Walmart* stores so far have been using DPL131 and DPL155. LOL, I also use DPL on MURS too.

RMM2050:
https://www.motorolasolutions.com/e...-radios/rm-series/rmm2050.html#tabproductinfo

If I worked at Walmart* corporate and had any say in what radios the company should be using in their stores, I would steer them toward using Motorola Digital Lightweight Radio (DLR) series 900MHz digital on-site business radios and get away from using VHF MURS.

Motorola Digital Lightweight Radio (DLR) series, for on-site small business:
https://www.motorolasolutions.com/e...business-radios/dlr-series-digital-radio.html

DLR1060:
https://www.motorolasolutions.com/e...ies-digital-radio/dlr1060.html#tabproductinfo

I own a fleet of DLR1060 radios and they work EXCELLENT and outperform VHF MURS and GMRS/FRS handhelds. The DLR series will work the older DTR series radios. These radios have replaced my use of GMRS and MURS for local on-site simplex type use because they work so well. For Walmart* use, I would set up several Private talkgroups so that only Walmart* owned DLR radios will talk to and hear other Walmart* owned DLR radios. No other DLR radios or DTR radios outside the Private talkgroup will hear them or talk to them. No consumer grade receiver (i.e., scanner) will hear them at all due to FHSS and VSELP digital. These radios frequency hop across the entire 902-928MHz band and stay on any specific frequency no longer than 90 ms. Short of Motorola test equipment and 3-letter government agencies, they are practically unmonitorable. While not encrypted, they can be made VERY secure. They will coexist with other signals in the 902-928 band, making them hard to jam too. No consumer grade receiver (scanner) can hear them and unlikely that they ever will in the future.

I'm not surprised that Walmart* is (still) on VHF MURS. Walmart* might be Motorola's largest customer of the RMM2050 MURS radio. I suspect Walmart* was using 154.57MHz and 154.6MHz long before MURS was created.

I was in a Walmart Supercenter this past week and noticed they had DLR series radios as opposed to the Motorola RDM2070 my local one uses. I asked one of the employees and he said that they switched over to the DLR because they were lighter and the people working in the freezers out back couldn't hear on the old ones. I know nothing about the DLR other than what you stated in regards to being neigh impossible to monitor without proper programming.

I know my Walmart uses 154.570 with CSQ but the store two towns over is on 154.600 with a PL tone. They aren't active enough on the radios for me to have scanned for it.

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Don't worry, their a big enough corporate giant that probably nothing would even happen to them. Probably a slap on the wrist.

Walmart could buy the FCC (and you can take that any way you wish).
 

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I guess I'll have to go through the codes one at a time and maybe I'll get lucky and hit the right one

Lol, they cant afford to buy you a radio, but they can afford you on their clock trying codes one at a time.. Lol.

If you had a position at the store where a radio was required, they would get you one. What position do you have ?
 

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It was MURS that probably led them to letting the licenses expire. Now Target on the other hand uses there own frequency plan which is pretty consistent across the board and each store has it's own call sign. The ones by me are WQCE591 & WQCR434.
 

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....I know radio electronics well. They say they can't afford give me a radio but if I have one I can use it. But no one knows the code to break the squelch. So they don't hear me but I hear them

If you "knew radio electronics well" you would have picked up a scanner, scanned for the PL code, and voila!!"

I'm a Walmart customer, and they do NOT give radios to those who shouldn't have radios, and don't want people creating malicious interference. Troll. Ignore.
 

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Have not checked recently but all our Walmart stores here were using Motorola radios on VHF. And most the time they use the first channel in the selection and use the first PL code

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If you "knew radio electronics well" you would have picked up a scanner, scanned for the PL code, and voila!!"

I'm a Walmart customer, and they do NOT give radios to those who shouldn't have radios, and don't want people creating malicious interference. Troll. Ignore.



I agree! I think it’s fine to listen, but there is no point in interfering with their transmissions. Plus why do they need to hear you anyways?


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I was in a Walmart Supercenter this past week and noticed they had DLR series radios as opposed to the Motorola RDM2070 my local one uses. I asked one of the employees and he said that they switched over to the DLR because they were lighter and the people working in the freezers out back couldn't hear on the old ones. I know nothing about the DLR other than what you stated in regards to being neigh impossible to monitor without proper programming.

I know my Walmart uses 154.570 with CSQ but the store two towns over is on 154.600 with a PL tone. They aren't active enough on the radios for me to have scanned for it.

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From first hand experience with the DLRs and DTRs, the DLRs would work out very well for Walmart* if they wanted to upgrade to something better than VHF MURS.

Regarding Walmart* employees working in the freezers, they were smart to use the DLR radios instead of MURS. A potential safety of life situation could arise if an employee were to get locked inside one of the walk-in freezers and be unable to call for help if they only had a VHF MURS radio with them. The freezer may be well sealed up at VHF frequencies but will still be well open at 900MHz for the DLRs to work.
 

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I agree! I think it’s fine to listen, but there is no point in interfering with their transmissions. Plus why do they need to hear you anyways?


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The OP said he works at Walmart, so he needs to know that stuff. Also MURS is a license free band so licensing isn't an issue


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If you can't help the guy then please stop polluting the thread with useless comments.

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The OP said he works at Walmart, so he needs to know that stuff. Also MURS is a license free band so licensing isn't an issue


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Gotcha... the pl tone is probably 67.0hz...


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Does all Walmart’s usually use the same Pl or DPL? Or does it vary in different states?


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Does all Walmart’s usually use the same Pl or DPL? Or does it vary in different states?


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It varies, although the Walmart in Lexington SC used CSQ (no tone)


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Does all Walmart’s usually use the same Pl or DPL? Or does it vary in different states?


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My local one uses 154.570 with CSQ. There's three other ones I visit regularly and they all have different tones and frequencies within MURS.

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