What has changed since you started in the hobby?

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rapidcharger

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What has changed since you started in the Hobby?
When I first started listening to police on a scanner, they were using VHF, analog conventional.
Then they migrated to UHF analog conventional. No problem. My scanner'll do that.
Then they migrated to 800 mhz analog conventional. Okay time for a new scanner.
Then they migrated to 800 mhz analog trunking. Time for a new scanner again.
Then they migrated to 800 mhz digital trunking. This is where I got off the bus. I would listen to streams online but refused to buy yet another new scanner that would stop working in short order. It's a good thing I did because...
Then they migrated to encryption. Then I stop listening.
Then I moved to a new town that isn't encrypted but I haven't begun listening here either. Just don't care that much anymore. I have some additional thoughts but I'll keep them to myself.
 

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Well, friend, I started my radio DXing hobby when I was about 14 or 15 years old, in the late 60s, about 50 years ago. Almost everything was different from today. My local police were dispatched on 45 Mhz simplex, one nearby county was still using 27 MHz simplex. Encryption was unheard of, but, believe me, the local authorities tried all kind of ways to keep the public from listening in. Some departments used voice inversion scrambling. Others, such as one nearby city, heavily used signal codes for just about every action or piece of information dispatched. Luckily, I knew a police officer in that city, and he passed me a copy of the codes. The Vermont State Police put a high pitched tone on top of all their transmissions to discourage monitoring. Then, I think it was Regency scanners came out with a way to block the tones. My first "scanner" wasn't really a scanner( unheard of at the time), but was a crystal controlled monitor. I remember my mother took me to Radio Shack to buy me some crystals as a birthday present. For every frequency that you wanted to listen to, you had to buy a crystal. When the modern frequency synthesized scanner came out, it was like manna from heaven. And , believe me, the crystals weren't cheap. And often, they were duds, slightly off frequency. At that time, I remember that the police channels in the suburban area where I lived as a youth were pretty boring, as crime was quite low, and people weren't brainwashed to the "see something, say something" mentality. Today, crime has increased in the suburbs, and people call the cops for every stupid little thing, which actually makes scanning more interesting. Back then, it was the big cities that were actually more violent than today, especially right after the end of the Vietnam war. I remember I used to hitch a ride with friends when they went down to Philly or Baltimore or New York, just to listen to the nighttime wars on the police radio in the ghettos between the police and the thugs...non stop shootings, assaults,and murders.... Police radio back then was a hundred times more entertaining than the TV....and I just want to comment for those who speak about encryption and having nothing to listen to on the scanner. Philly, New York, Baltimore, Houston, Chicago, Pittsburgh and many many other high crime cities, still, in 2020, have unencrypted dispatching. Furthermore, with the trunked radio systems of today, there is at least 100% more to listen to than back then, as you can now hear all sides of the communication. When I started listening, most systems were still simplex, with very few repeaters. I remember going outside and climbing up a hill just to hear both sides of the conversation. Many, if not most, Fire Departments in suburban and rural areas were still simplex well into the 90s, and even some up to just 10 years ago were simplex. It is our tax dollars that buy these radio systems and encrypt them. Although I have no problem with tactical and surveillance channels being encrypted, it is simply not right to encrypt the main dispatch channels, and even worse, the fire and public works channels as they do in parts of Florida. We pay the salaries of these public servants and have every right to know what they are doing with our money, just as we have a very important right to know what is going on in our neighborhood and city. If we remain silent, as now, not only will everything be encrypted, but serious abuse of our money, and our human rights will inevitably occur. Meanwhile, enjoy the hobby while it lasts.
 

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Fifty years older. Started with a two channel xtal receiver. One slot for PD and one for FD. Moved up to RS VHF/UHF AM/FM to listen to PD/FD. This was back in Cleve, OH when the statue of the thinker was blown off of its pedestal at the Art Museum in the 70's.

Now, two SD card scanners, one analog base, digital base and one digital hand held. Don't monitor as much as I once did.
 

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Early 90's everyone was on plain vanilla analog UHF/VHF. Having a 50 channel scanner was more than sufficient.

1995-1997: agencies in the area moved over to EDACS or Motorola Smartnet/Smartzone systems. People feared not being able to listen because trunked radio was something new and unfamiliar. We had to temporarily chase radio traffic around in conventional mode until they developed EDACS/Motorola "trunk tracking" scanners. Problem solved, and we had years and years left of monitoring.

2009-Now: Motorola and EDACS vanished, and P25 trunking came into the picture. 95% of the police and fire agencies could be monitored early on. 2012-2013, encryption started creeping into the picture. Some police and fire departments just had to have the "latest and greatest" technology. Now our area is around 80 % clear (yes, I'm thankful for what we do have left), but the reality is most of those agencies have plans to move to the "dark side" in the next 2-3 years. It's been interesting to watch the hobby and technology evolve.
 

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My first scanner was a Uniden BC780XLT. The City of Canton ran an analog 800 Mhz trunked system and the rest of the county was conventional low band, VHF and UHF.

About 2002, the city and county merged into a Digital 800 Mhz trunked system. I bought a Uniden BC250D when they first came out. It required an addon card for P25.

After rebanding, the BC250D became useless. I bought a GRE PSR600 which I just sold this week.

Last year, my entire county aside from a few departments, moved to a P25 MARCS simulcast system. I now have an SDS100 and two SDS200's one of which I use for a Broadcastify feed of this system.

I still use a BC785D without the P25 card that I picked up cheap after rebanding as my conventional scanner for the few agencies that have not moved to MARCS.
 

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I started with a RS Pro 4. It covered 148-174 MHz using 4 crystals. My county used only two frequencies at that time, so I had several for other departments and services. The first programmable was a Regency HX-1000. My latest addition is the Icom R30, which some say is not a scanner because it works differently. Has by far the best sensitivity of any and covers .10000 through 3304.99999 MHz. It is harder to program but top quality.
 

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Started back in the early 1970's with a PRC25(?) single channel low band military receiver.

What has changed?
The complexity of the radio systems now.
You would have a crystal for a frequency you would install or in later years use a keypad and enter the frequency that you wanted to listen to.

Now it is having to know systems, frequencies, LCN's, talkgroups, color codes, analog vs digital and other various programming information.
 

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The mobile data terminal has caused even normal analog transmissions to decrease quite a bit....I've been mobile scanning via my ham rig for years, and you used to be able to keep track of the whole area by radio. Now, things like license checks, etc are done via mobile terminal, so you don't get as much RF to keep track of where units are.
 

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Anyone recall the old scanners with cards that you would punch out frez......I was thinking I was big time when I got one of them???
Can't recall maker.....but do wish I had it back! Those were the days!
 

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I can easier tell you what has not changed in my area for decades; pretty substantial agencies here are still operating on the exact same vhf/uhf frequencies that I used to listen to them on in the late 70s with my '76 Realistic Patrolman SW-60! South San Francisco, San Bruno, Millbrae, Burlingame, San Mateo, Daly City, Colma....pretty much all the peninsula cities. I think this is really something that each one even still has the same audible hum in the carriers they had in the 70s and that little "chirp" as they let off the key. This tells me they probably use the same well-maintained radio equipment they've always had.
 

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Virtually, everything. I built my first Heathkit crystal radio when I was 12 years old, well over 50 years ago. I have kept up with the technology for the most part, learning the digital aspects of my hobby as new waves of innovation came (and went, in some cases). Now I am jumping into the DMR pool and having a blast with it. I embrace change as it happens, because in this hobby you either keep up with the changes or you get left in the dust of oblivion. Everything has changed, but then, so have I.
 

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I've only been active scanning for a bit over a decade. The two big changes are the railroads going narrowband, and the public safety departments in my area going from a simple analog TRS to digital P25 simulcast (certain departments anyway).
 

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Like many, I started off with a RS 4-ch crystal scanner. I remember going through the RS catalogs every year to see the latest and greatest.

One thing I noticed recently, is that I used to have all the "good" frequencies memorized (circa PRO-2006; still have them memorized, although they're no-longer in use). But now with alpha displays, all I see is "xxx FD Disp", and can no longer rattle off the frequency.

For me, the best changes have been computer-programming and alpha displays.

Thanks for the great thread!
 

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...One thing I noticed recently, is that I used to have all the "good" frequencies memorized...

Glad to see I'm not the only one! I grew up in upstate NY and to this day, I still have all of those area frequencies committed to memory.

As far as changes go, one thing that comes to mind is the use of plain English now (for the most part) instead of codes. I can remember the days when each department had a different set of codes, and I kept a notebook with each set next to the scanner.
 

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Most of the Fire and EMS near my area are still analog and therefore I still hear the daily and nightly tone tests for the Fire and EMS channels for my town and the surrounding towns. The fire siren goes off at noon here as well.

To answer the OP question, I would have to say I miss not having to worry about what I may not be able to hear since almost everything was in the clear ...
 
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