Until they have some pictures even if a mock up add Supposedly to the beginning of also releasing.
Whistler to Launch New LSM Capable Scanners
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Until they have some pictures even if a mock up add Supposedly to the beginning of also releasing.
Well said, Signal-Zero.
If I can afford it when the time comes, I'll probably buy both the Uniden SDS-100 and the Whistler TRX-100.
It's been my experience with the Uniden BCD436HP and the Whistler TRX-1 that the Uniden is generally less sensitive and more selective, which makes it excel in strong-signal environments, and the Whistler is generally more sensitive and less selective, which makes it excel in weak-signal environments.
In rural, mountainous northern New Mexico, my TRX-1 will receive weak signals that the '436 can't seem to hear, and in downtown Las Vegas, NV, my '436 will clearly receive signals that tend to overload and desensitize the TRX-1 (identical antennas, BTW).
The SDS-100 display is gorgeous, but my priority is rf performance over features, and it will be very interesting to see if my '436 vs TRX-1 experience holds true in an SDS-100 vs TRX-100 comparison.
In any event, I'm enjoying all the excitement, and unlike many, I'm going to refrain from ego- and emotion-driven attacks and arguments about radios most of us have yet to even touch!
-Johnnie
I've got to spend a large budget on 15 or so new Phase II scanners...is Whistler talking MSRP on these yet? I would assume $699 would be an anticipated figure? I am stuck in a frustrating position of having to spend my budget for Phase II upgrades by August 2018...sort of a use it or lose it (WS1098's) thing. :-(
Paul
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Then Whistler is not an option for you. If they haven't even released rough CAD renderings of the product yet, then it's pretty unlikely it will be on sale in August.
Unless the audio quality of P2 demod is drastically improved, not at all interested. Makes my current scanners borderline to listen to. Probably my biggest disappointments in these new digital scanners, though the Whistler is slightly less painful to listen to than the Uniden was.
Do not have simulcast issues, so no reason to pay attention to these new products.
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August is not in Q4, no.
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The hardware design is going to be different...
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"but Whistler is also releasing a mobile/base version as well as portable"
So is Uniden, if that is what you implied...
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Uniden has not announced any base/mobile versions as of yet, unless you have insider knowledge that UPMan hasn't made public yet?
John
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Please keep in mind this thread is about new Whistler models and not what every other company has/may have/is thinking about having/or whatever.
I'd rather not delete a bunch of posts, so please keep it on topic...last warning.
I'd rather not delete a bunch of posts, so please keep it on topic...last warning.
I assume you mean the TRX-1. Maybe there is some troubleshooting you can do. Or maybe you are in a simulcast/LSM area.
Also, I see this is your first post - welcome.
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Technically, it scans the voice channels. I would agree with you though as far saying the 1080, 1088, and TRX 1, do a good job of tracking systems that are not too busy. Busier systems are a problem, both DMR and NXDN.
But, you're right, they both miss traffic. All scanners do. The more we try to scan, the more we miss.
The TRX's are no different in how they do things than the GRE800 that is factory modified to get DMR. I can only hope they have learned and make changes other wise I will not spend the money. As stated before my MD380 scans DMR trunking systems the same as my TRX's
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Well stated...
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It's been stated before, that Whistler does not have a license for the IP rights to properly trunktrack, via the control channel data, trunked DMR and NXDN systems.
Uniden has these licenses.
Unless Whistler has bought the appropriate licenses, the new models will continue to follow DMR and NXDN voice channels only in the conventional mode, which may work for those who monitor less busy systems with few users who don't transmit often, but will not work well for those who wish to monitor busier systems with many users who do transmit often.
Whistler has not yet stated whether they have acquired, will acquire, or are in the process of acquiring, those licenses, or whether their new models will have the control channel trunktracking, or not.
Whistler has the appropriate license(s) to trunk track other trunked systems, via the control channel data, which is why trunktracking works on those systems.
There seemed to be some confusion about all of this. To my understanding, each type of system needs a different license to the IP rights, in order to include it in a scanner model. There is no one size fits all trunktracking license. AFAIK, DMR, EDACS, P25, NXDN, Type I/II/IIi all require seperate licenses. Whistler does not hold, or at least has not held, all of them.
It remains to be seen exactly what the new models will and won't do. And how well it will do what it will be able to do, such as handle LSM issues.
It also remains to be seen what the new models will look like. Will they be completely physically redesigned, or will they simply put new features in the same case? (I hope they are new designs, which are more visually appealing, personally, as I am not a fan of the TRX-1 appearance. That is just my opinion.)
Nobody with any factual knowledge (Whistler Wendy, for example) has come out and provided those details as of yet. It is entirely possible that Uniden's announcement forced Whistler's announcement somewhat prematurely, in order to try to prevent them from losing too many customers to Uniden. However, this is only speculation on my part.
We have a choice. Wait for Whistler to release details, or purchase a Uniden before then if our needs/wants are more pressing.
John
Peoria, AZ
Uniden has these licenses.
Unless Whistler has bought the appropriate licenses, the new models will continue to follow DMR and NXDN voice channels only in the conventional mode, which may work for those who monitor less busy systems with few users who don't transmit often, but will not work well for those who wish to monitor busier systems with many users who do transmit often.
Whistler has not yet stated whether they have acquired, will acquire, or are in the process of acquiring, those licenses, or whether their new models will have the control channel trunktracking, or not.
Whistler has the appropriate license(s) to trunk track other trunked systems, via the control channel data, which is why trunktracking works on those systems.
There seemed to be some confusion about all of this. To my understanding, each type of system needs a different license to the IP rights, in order to include it in a scanner model. There is no one size fits all trunktracking license. AFAIK, DMR, EDACS, P25, NXDN, Type I/II/IIi all require seperate licenses. Whistler does not hold, or at least has not held, all of them.
It remains to be seen exactly what the new models will and won't do. And how well it will do what it will be able to do, such as handle LSM issues.
It also remains to be seen what the new models will look like. Will they be completely physically redesigned, or will they simply put new features in the same case? (I hope they are new designs, which are more visually appealing, personally, as I am not a fan of the TRX-1 appearance. That is just my opinion.)
Nobody with any factual knowledge (Whistler Wendy, for example) has come out and provided those details as of yet. It is entirely possible that Uniden's announcement forced Whistler's announcement somewhat prematurely, in order to try to prevent them from losing too many customers to Uniden. However, this is only speculation on my part.
We have a choice. Wait for Whistler to release details, or purchase a Uniden before then if our needs/wants are more pressing.
John
Peoria, AZ
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No, but some people are capable of bettering themselves.
And technology is always improving, too.
Perhaps Whistler, if they are paying attention, will acquire the necessary licenses, and include proper trunktracking, via control channel data, of DMR and NXDN trunked systems.
And perhaps they'll update the cases, as well.
It will be disappointing if they don't, yes, but quit being so damned pessimistic. Sheesh...
John
Peoria, AZ
And technology is always improving, too.
Perhaps Whistler, if they are paying attention, will acquire the necessary licenses, and include proper trunktracking, via control channel data, of DMR and NXDN trunked systems.
And perhaps they'll update the cases, as well.
It will be disappointing if they don't, yes, but quit being so damned pessimistic. Sheesh...
John
Peoria, AZ
Wilrobnson
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I just hope Whistler isn't going to follow another manu's trends and use an idiotic proprietary battery.
You can use battery packs but have an option for AAs...makes sense. Typically more like out of packs.
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