Winter Event

[rbritton1201]

Yep, the traffic I was hearing wasn't typical of law enforcement activities, I could tell it was some other support type function, but wasn't sure what, but it did have something to do with the highway being cleared, etc...So, where did you find that UID #21911 defined, was it some online MOSWIN published page?

I turned off the SEARCH function because the only thing I was getting was the one UID, and no others. The display I was getting when I received that one UID wasn't a typical display, and it was kind of obscure with respect to displaying the normal information, and I wasn't getting any results out of SEARCH anyway, other than that one UID. I don't have any interest in listening to motorist assist calls, so off went the UID SEARCH feature.

I can answer at least one of your questions and maybe part of another.

TG 21911 are the MODOT motorist assist/emergency response trucks that help stranded drivers and police/fire/EMS units on highway incidents. I believe their dispatching base is at the MODOT transportation center at Hwy 64 and 141. They will be heard on any MOSWIN site/tower that their signal will reach and consequently affiliates with.

You are hearing TG's that are outside the list that you have programmed because you have the scanner in SEARCH mode. In that mode you will hear everything that transmits off the towers/sites you have programmed and are monitoring.

At least that is the way I think you questioned some of your topics.

Hope it helped a little.

 

[AC0RV]

May I have a copy of the file. To see What's going on.

 

[rbritton1201]

David, if you're referring to a recorded file of my receiving UID 21911, I'm sorry, but I didn't record it...

May have a copy of the file. To see

 

[AC0RV]

Typically, the tgids are the channel names. If it is not in the database they show like TGID : ####. The UIDs are the radio themselfs.

Sometimes they are showned at the bottom of the screen on the #36hps and SDS's

The UIDs are not on the listed that was entered in the UID section. They appear like UID: #####. If the are in the list it will appear agency ####.

Even though they may not show up all the time. it may be some avantage of having recorded,

 

[AC0RV]

I turned "ON" the Search feature to capture UIDs of all the P25 related favorites lists I have programmed into the Uniden BCD536HP, and I got kind of a weird circumstance on the BCD536HP readout. I have two particular towers programmed into the scanner for a particular agency, I receive traffic from Washington PD within the MOSWIN system, via the Weldon Spring and the St. Clair 700 towers. All of my favorites lists are individual agencies programmed into their own respective favorites lists.

Only one UID was ever captured on the readout on the scanner, UID #21911. I have only the TGID for Washington PD (TGID #4803) programmed into the Washington PD favorites list, and TGID #21911 is not a TGID programmed into the favorites list for Washington PD.
But ,the scanner showed TGID #21911 within the Washington PD favorites list whenever that particular TGID #21911 transmitted. It was picked up through the Weldon Spring Tower, and through the St. Clair 700 tower, just depending on which tower picked up the transmission in the scan sequence.

At the same time, when signals were received that were transmissions from Washington PD via the St. Clair 700 and the Weldon Spring towers, the SEARCH ID feature didn't display their UID #4803. Not only that, but I have the "SEARCH" feature turned on for other P25 systems in my BCD536HP, and no UIDs were ever decoded and displayed when traffic was received on the other P25 systems in my favorites lists, other than that one TGID #21911 on the Washington PD favorites list. The other P25 systems are part of S.L.A.T.E.R. (St Louis Area Trunked Emergency Radio) System, but no TGIDs were ever displayed there either.

I tried to identify TGID #21911, and could never officially ascertain where that TGID originates within documentation that I hoped would be within the MOSWIN information online. I know it was a Missouri State Highway Patrol TGID based on my experience listening to their transmissions, and because they always preface their traffic with their base station's location, Weldon Spring, before conversing with their units. When TGID #21911 called in, the base station identified when taking their traffic. Also, based on the tower site displays, I could see that the transmission were coming from Site ID 7-35 (St. Clair 700 tower) and site ID 5-16 (Weldon Spring Tower). The TGIDs for Washington PD are programmed into the scanner for Washington PD, but no UIDs for Washington PD were ever decoded and displayed on the scanner when Washington PD transmitted. But, normal traffic received will generally show the transmission coming from MSHP or Washington PD. In this case the scanner displayed Missouri Highway Patrol traffic as coming from Washington PD, very strange...

Question #1: Why is a TGID that isn't programmed for reception within the Washington PD favorites list being decoded and received?
Question #2: Why isn't the TGID #4803 that is programmed for reception under the Washington PD favorites list being decoded and displayed?
Question #3: Why are the other P25 systems programmed into their respective favorites lists not displaying TGIDs with the SEARCH IDs feature turned ON?
Question #4: Why is the scanner displaying Missouri Highway Patrol traffic as coming from Washington PD?

1. Unless you have added it to your favorite list. It will just show TGID #
2&3 I believe the TGID and UID info are transitmitted at the begining of transmitted signal (I may be wrong in this).
4 Sometimes the highway patrol may be a little stronger the Washington PD signal. Also may be the timing of the signals to the scanner as well.

 

[AC0RV]

David, if you're referring to a recorded file of my receiving UID 21911, I'm sorry, but I didn't record it...

No I was refering to the file that you sent and have in your scanner to listen to the agency(ies) that you list to,

 

[rbritton1201]

Do you mean the file entitled BCD536HP that I have saved as the file that contains my favorites lists?

No I was refering to the file that you sent and have in your scanner to listen to the agency(ies) that you list to,

 

[rbritton1201]

Ok, then all I was seeing was the TGID 21911, and I didn't notice any UID information on the display.

Typically, the tgids are the channel names. If it is not in the database they show like TGID : ####. The UIDs are the radio themselfs.

Sometimes they are showned at the bottom of the screen on the #36hps and SDS's

The UIDs are not on the listed that was entered in the UID section. They appear like UID: #####. If the are in the list it will appear agency ####.

Even though they may not show up all the time. it may be some avantage of having recorded,

 

[AC0RV]

The Favorites list that you use to program the scanners. The Hpe file.

 

[rbritton1201]

What will you be looking for with a copy of my .hpe file? Just curious...

The Favorites list that you use to program the scanners. The Hpe file.

 

[AC0RV]

Anything that you might have overlooked.

 

[rbritton1201]

Ok, that would be helpful to know...I'll try to get a chance to make a copy and send it over. But, I don't want to post it here, so I guess I can send it as an attachment via private messages, or do you want me to email it?

Anything that you might have overlooked.

 

[AC0RV]

I think you may have my email ?

 

[rbritton1201]

I don't recall saving it anywhere, was it in one of the private messages that we may have conversed over something in the past?

I found it...give some time to get it to you with all my health issues going on.

I think you may have my email ?

 

[AC0RV]

In PM that was just sent.

 

[rbritton1201]

Yep, got it...and also found it in my archives...

In PM that was just sent.

 

[AC0RV]

Thanks. you also can export it a lesser from you Senital.

 

[rbritton1201]

Sent to your email, MSHP and Washington PD favorites lists.

Thanks. you also can export it a lesser from you Senital.

 

[AC0RV]

Typically, the tgids are the channel names. If it is not in the database they show like TGID : ####. The UIDs are the radio themselfs.

Sometimes they are showned at the bottom of the screen on the #36hps and SDS's

The UIDs are not on the listed that was entered in the UID section. They appear like UID: #####. If the are in the list it will appear agency ####.

 

[AC0RV]

Got the files and checking them out now.