Wisconsin Public Safety Network (WiPSN)

[wxscan]

Hello all,

I saw this article was posted today.

https://county.milwaukee.gov/EN/Cou...Communication-System-to-Promote-Public-Safety

Does anyone have more information?
Can this system be monitored?
Will this impact what we hear from agencies in Milwaukee County?

 

[a1emt]

There is another thread that was started on this:

OASIS and Wisconsin Public Safety Network (WiPSN) ???

Update to the OASIS System in the database states the following: "During the week of April 22nd, 2024, OASIS will take a major step toward enhanced interoperability and reliability as the charter members of the Wisconsin Public Safety Network (WiPSN), an initiative using a hosted remote that...

forums.radioreference.com

Basically the existing Waukesha / Milwaukee County OASIS radio systems are the first to be networked into WiPSN, a wide area P25 radio network managed by Motorola Solutions. It is anticipated that other similar P25 systems in the state (and possibly surrounding states) will also be linked in. This ability to form a "System of Systems" was a major selling point of the P25 standard developed years ago. In the Milwaukee metro area, the implementation of P25 ISSI gateways has allowed greatly enhanced daily interoperability between OASIS, WISCOM and the City of Milwaukee OpenSky radio system. WiPSN is one more building block.

If you are scanning the existing OASIS radio system, you are monitoring WiPSN.

 

[wxscan]

There is another thread that was started on this:

OASIS and Wisconsin Public Safety Network (WiPSN) ???

Update to the OASIS System in the database states the following: "During the week of April 22nd, 2024, OASIS will take a major step toward enhanced interoperability and reliability as the charter members of the Wisconsin Public Safety Network (WiPSN), an initiative using a hosted remote that...

forums.radioreference.com

Basically the existing Waukesha / Milwaukee County OASIS radio systems are the first to be networked into WiPSN, a wide area P25 radio network managed by Motorola Solutions. It is anticipated that other similar P25 systems in the state (and possibly surrounding states) will also be linked in. This ability to form a "System of Systems" was a major selling point of the P25 standard developed years ago. In the Milwaukee metro area, the implementation of P25 ISSI gateways has allowed greatly enhanced daily interoperability between OASIS, WISCOM and the City of Milwaukee OpenSky radio system. WiPSN is one more building block.

If you are scanning the existing OASIS radio system, you are monitoring WiPSN.

Excellent! Thank you for explaining this.

 

[jch321]

PR article from Motorola

Milwaukee County and Waukesha County Unveil Enhanced Emergency Communication System to Promote Public Safety​

Milwaukee County and Waukesha County Unveil Enhanced Emergency Communication System to Promote Public Safety - Motorola Solutions

Milwaukee County and Waukesha County Unveil Enhanced Emergency Communication System to Promote Public Safety

www.motorolasolutions.com

 

[OpSec]

And I guess it's time for the name change in the DB...

OASIS has been changed to WiPSN.

 

[dnelson94]

Here is more INFP on WiPSN from Motorola site.

https://images.campaignresources.motorolasolutions.com/Web/MotorolaSolutionsInc/%7Bddb74ec6-3cbe-421b-b393-cb9c719cfdff%7D_WiPSN_Wisconsin_Public_Safety_Network_Overview_brochureFINAL_(2).pdf?_gl=1%2Agvisrv%2A_gcl_au%2ANTc1MzQxNDEzLjE3MjM3MzE3OTU.%2A_ga%2ANjE2MDg5MzUzLjE3MjM3MzE3OTY.%2A_ga_23THW5EV9N%2AMTcyMzczMTc5Ni4xLjEuMTcyMzczMjM2Mi4yMC4wLjA.

 

[dnelson94]

INFO sorry!

 

[firebell9137]

There is another thread that was started on this:

OASIS and Wisconsin Public Safety Network (WiPSN) ???

Update to the OASIS System in the database states the following: "During the week of April 22nd, 2024, OASIS will take a major step toward enhanced interoperability and reliability as the charter members of the Wisconsin Public Safety Network (WiPSN), an initiative using a hosted remote that...

forums.radioreference.com

Basically the existing Waukesha / Milwaukee County OASIS radio systems are the first to be networked into WiPSN, a wide area P25 radio network managed by Motorola Solutions. It is anticipated that other similar P25 systems in the state (and possibly surrounding states) will also be linked in. This ability to form a "System of Systems" was a major selling point of the P25 standard developed years ago. In the Milwaukee metro area, the implementation of P25 ISSI gateways has allowed greatly enhanced daily interoperability between OASIS, WISCOM and the City of Milwaukee OpenSky radio system. WiPSN is one more building block.

If you are scanning the existing OASIS radio system, you are monitoring WiPSN.

im scanning this system on my sds100 scanner from city of Racine south side. does it have any better signal strength for a Unication G4 pager from where Im at?

 

[OpSec]

im scanning this system on my sds100 scanner from city of Racine south side. does it have any better signal strength for a Unication G4 pager from where Im at?

Literally nothing changed from the RF perspective. What was yesterday is today.

As I understand it, the OASIS core(s) is/are now the WiPSN cores, so it'll be interesting to see how this gets expanded upon with systems outside of Milwaukee and Waukesha County. Those taxpayers bought the two county system, which now theoretically can be used by many others for a fraction of the cost.

 

[firebell9137]

Literally nothing changed from the RF perspective. What was yesterday is today.

As I understand it, the OASIS core(s) is/are now the WiPSN cores, so it'll be interesting to see how this gets expanded upon with systems outside of Milwaukee and Waukesha County. Those taxpayers bought the two county system, which now theoretically can be used by many others for a fraction of the cost.

Ok thanks. Do you know how to contact anyone from the system to get their tones to alert my unication g4 pager?

 

[OpSec]

Ok thanks. Do you know how to contact anyone from the system to get their tones to alert my unication g4 pager?

Fire paging? I think you'd have to decode the tones off the VHF paging channel and do it that way. I've found that P25 talkgroup tone decoding is not 100% accurate. I've never had the urge to explore it further.

 

[firebell9137]

Fire paging? I think you'd have to decode the tones off the VHF paging channel and do it that way. I've found that P25 talkgroup tone decoding is not 100% accurate. I've never had the urge to explore it further.

They barely use the vhf tone outs. Only as backup.

And ok.

 

[OpSec]

They barely use the vhf tone outs. Only as backup.

And ok.

In Milwaukee County, you're probably right...but every fire call in Waukesha County except the City of Waukesha is toned out on 154.430 MHz...take a listen:

Waukesha County Fire - West Live Audio Feed

Waukesha County Fire - West Live Audio Feed on Broadcastify.com

www.broadcastify.com

 

[firebell9137]

Every fire call in Waukesha County except the City of Waukesha is toned out on 154.430 MHz...

You can laugh. Im not talking about waukesha. Im talking about Milwaukee county fire.

 

[OpSec]

You can laugh. Im not talking about waukesha. Im talking about Milwaukee county fire.

You didn't say that...

 

[firebell9137]

You didn't say that...

Ok sorry

 

[DVINTHEHOUSEMAN]

Here's a stupid question:

What's the purpose of expanding the system out of Milwaukee/Waukesha Co and competing with WISCOM? They already own the sites, why not just merge them into the already existing state trunk instead of making another one?

 

[firebell9137]

Here's a stupid question:

What's the purpose of expanding the system out of Milwaukee/Waukesha Co and competing with WISCOM? They already own the sites, why not just merge them into the already existing state trunk instead of making another one?

Wisconsin Public Safety Network (WiPSN) Trunking System, Milwaukee & Waukesha, Wisconsin

Wisconsin Public Safety Network (WiPSN) Trunking System Profile

www.radioreference.com

At the top it describes it a little bit

 

[DVINTHEHOUSEMAN]

I saw that, but reading the brochure that Motorola has for the system it seems like they want to make WISCOM #2 by offering to let users with existing Motorola trunking equipment to merge with WIPSN. They also seem to have open arms to new users of trunked systems also. Seems like a big hit to interop to have two different public safety systems running statewide with some on one side, some on the other, and the rest on conventional.

 

[Paul-W]

I was under the impression that the state of Wisconsin just awarded a contract to L3Harris to build a new system for Wiscom to replace their current system that was originally built by EF Johnson. Just my opinion, but it seems like this new system will be competing with this new Motorola setup that is now in Waukesha and Milwaukee county, which is allegedly going to be able to provide coverage throughout the state with other Motorola systems. This will be interesting to see how this plays out.