XPR2500: Need programming assistance... I THINK!

[k4gps]

I am new to the Motorola line for DMR but have experience from back in the Mid-90's with the radius line when I worked for a radio shop. I have several Maxtrac's, GM's, and even a Syntor X9000. As far as DMR I have used the Anyone 878, a 578UVIII plus and have two TYT-MDUV390's and a Baeofeng 1701 running GD-77 software. Never an issue programming DMR repeaters on any of those.

Labor Day weekend I was at the Shelby Hamfest and picked up a XPR2500 for the heck of it. Finally after problems with the CPS version I was given and .dll file modification for narrowband I got the radio going. Problem now is I can't seem to get the radio to work on the repeater properly. These are the settings I need
CC1
TS1
TG of 9 for local
TG of 314641 which is configured (don't ask me how) so users on a hot spot can get on the repeater from anywhere they are.
ie: use TG9 and you won't come over the hot spot and hot spot users won't be heard by those on TG9. Use 314641 and anyone anywhere in the world on a hot spot can come in on the repeater and chat with local users who are using or monitoring TS1 TG 314641

Radio has been programmed with the right frequency 443.650+5 and narrowband. I have 2 identical channels entered with that frequency one for TG9 and one for TG314541 on CC1 and TS1. The frequency is a bit odd since it's not a splinter but it was coordinated that way and works fine on other brand radios and I can key up the repeater.

TS2 is reserved for users to connect to any BM TG that they desire. I have not even tried doing any of that.

When I key my mobile I see the S-Meter I know the repeater hears me, I can see the S-Meter full scale hang time. I also went on the BM dashboard and cane see my MANY test connections to both TG9 and TG 314641 on the repeater. THE PROBLEM IS for some reason my audio is not coming through, I can not hear myself on the HT. Now if I send my wife outside to the front porch (afraid of desense not letting me hear it) and she calls me on either TG I can hear it. I have done countless tests when changing settings I THINK but not 100% in one case she was able to hear me but I was not able to hear her responding. Does anyone have any clue as what I can be doing wrong ? I am going to go over to my laptop and take a screen capture of the CPS and post as a comment but honestly is there ANYTHING else necessary than CC TS and TG (of course frequency) in a channel setting to get a Motorola DMR radio to fully function on a repeater ?

 

[k4gps]

Are there any other critical screens I need to look at to try to identify the problem ?

 

[dickie757]

Did you put your radioid.net ID in the radio?

Edit....use the Anytone in permiscuous mode to hear the Moto tx.

 

[k4gps]

Did you put your radioid.net ID in the radio?

Edit....use the Anytone in permiscuous mode to hear the Moto tx.

LOL yes.... and like I had mentioned I am hitting the Brand Meister servers as seen on my dashboard . Does the XPR series or Motorola for that matter have any feature like permiscuous ? It can be annoying but since the TS2 on the repeater is used for people to bring up ANY BM TG it would be nice to have one channel set up to TS2 permiscious so I can listen in and participate if I would want to.

 

[K9KLC]

Are there any other critical screens I need to look at to try to identify the problem ?

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You need to change the admit criteria to "always" or you will not be able key up until the repeater drops if it's a DMR repeater that has hang time. did you guys try a simplex channel to see if it's working between the two radios or not?

 

[K9KLC]

Did you put your radioid.net ID in the radio?

Edit....use the Anytone in permiscuous mode to hear the Moto tx.

why would he need to do that. IF all radios are on the correct TS, CC, TG and correct frequencies (whether repeater or simplex) the Anytone would not need to be in that mode. WE do simplex between TYT, Anytone, and Motorola all the time and it works fine. We also use a DMR repeater locally and don't have to have the Anytones in promiscuous mode to hear any particular brand of radio. As long as the above criteria is met, no, you do not need to put the Anytone in Promiscuous mode, we do it daily around here.

 

[K9KLC]

Does anyone have any clue as what I can be doing wrong ? I am going to go over to my laptop and take a screen capture of the CPS and post as a comment but honestly is there ANYTHING else necessary than CC TS and TG (of course frequency) in a channel setting to get a Motorola DMR radio to fully function on a repeater ?

As mentioned between you and I. You're trying a repeater that has a MMDVM had on it and linked time slots. Trust me when I say, I have 7 Motorola radios and all of them function perfectly thru a repeater, or on simplex. The repeaters in our area are different however, they are genuine DMR repeaters not hacked together stuff that may or may not work correctly. I have Anytone and TYT portables and a 'Anytone mobile. I can assure you, my Motorolas work just fine beside them whether going thru the local repeater or simplex from radio to radio to any number of other users in the area that we use VHF and UHF DMR for a couple of events we have a year here. Probably 30 or so of us, using different brands of radios are all able to talk to each other without problems. Anyway about all I can do to help you. Sorry I couldn't do more.

 

[K9KLC]

Let's try this, since I can't add a talk group to the repeater I use (locked down by repeater owner) let's set up a time to try something. Add TG 31171 in your radio as a digital contact. That's the Illinois link DMR room. I can do there and listen for you and likewise you for me. According to what you have said you would use TS 2 for that on your repeater. Perhaps we can make a contact there at some point tomorrow assuming Illinois link is up and running. I'll get a hold of the system admin for that and double check. IF not, we can try the Illinois state wide talk group (3117) or perhaps one of the TAC talk groups. I'd like to see what's going on down there. I think there's a net tomorrow night actually on Illinois link, so maybe you could pop the repeater and get in on some of that also. It's at 9 PM your time. (8 central). Perhaps we can narrow some of this down.
Also seriously try and do a simplex contact between you and your wife. let's make sure the radio is actually working correctly. (unless you've checked it on a service monitor or something then we'll have to assume it is).

73-Greg

 

[ki4hyf]

Are there any other critical screens I need to look at to try to identify the problem ?

I'm pretty sure you must have a "Group List" entered, it can't be set to none.

 

[K9KLC]

I'm pretty sure you must have a "Group List" entered, it can't be set to none.

Yep it can.

 

[K9KLC]

Richard I'm going to email you a couple pics of the plug in my DMR HT, a working plug and you can compare them, they're too big to upload here I guess.

 

[Mikek]

You appear to be missing a "1" in the Call ID....

 

[K9KLC]

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You appear to be missing a "1" in the Call ID....

Yep sure is I just checked what he sent me and it was missing there too. Totally missed that. Good catch !!

 

[k4gps]

You are correct but the other channel was also not working, the TG was 9 and that was correct. 9 is local while 314641 is the one set up to be linked to BM so others with hot spots can check into the repeater. If users want to be "local" only they use 9 if they want to be able to communicate with others on hot spots they use 314641. Honestly MOST people use 314641 since it does the same as TG9 AND allows others to join in that may be out of range, out of state.. or yes... on a cruise ship with a HS on WiFi LOL.

Bottom line like I had told Greg last night it was very odd. One evening I turned the radio on and heard people, low and behold it was working! So IDK.... but now that I have a better handle on it all I am going to start a codeplug from scratch and not modify the one that was in there from the NYC area. Bought the rig at a hamfest and the seller was from out of town.

 

[K9KLC]

I am going to start a codeplug from scratch and not modify the one that was in there from the NYC area

I think this is the best possible plan. OR, leave what's in there alone and start a new zone for the system you're trying to get connected to now.

 

[k4gps]

I think this is the best possible plan. OR, leave what's in there alone and start a new zone for the system you're trying to get connected to now.

Greg I reallllly appreciate all the help and effort you have put in here and via e-mail thank you for all your support it was very helpful! The mystery of why it was not working at first (TG9) will continue but that may be due to Group lists, the fat finger was totally on me for the other TG. To my credit though.... using a Panasonic Tough Book and not a desktop monitor has been troublesome. It's in great shape, got it at the hamfest also just for radio stuff so I can leave my wife's Dell laptop alone and it has a REAL serial port but the screen is a bit small for my aging eyes. Also it seems that Motorola software engineers leave a lot to be desired. When CPS boots up the FONT just goes really small and the program window get's smaller. I got to look into that a bit more but it's so small I need to put my readers on and shove my face into the screen, that's probably why that "1" was missing!