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XTL/XTS5000 XTS5000 NAS with different firmware versions

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I asked the OP to send me the codeplug, so I could fix it for them, but never got said codeplug. I could only go off of what the OP mentioned in the post in that he had a radio that works and one that doesn't that he cloned from the first. It could be any number of things, but until that codeplug is on my PC, it is all speculation.
 

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I asked the OP to send me the codeplug, so I could fix it for them, but never got said codeplug. I could only go off of what the OP mentioned in the post in that he had a radio that works and one that doesn't that he cloned from the first. It could be any number of things, but until that codeplug is on my PC, it is all speculation.
I emailed it over to you
 

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Actually yes. Coverage should be set to SmartZone if it is in fact a SmartZone system. Do not mess with preferred sites. Just switch to Smart Zone and see what happens. This issue of attempted affiliation due to the wrong coverage type has previously been documented either on this forum, Communications Support, or both.
Besides the issue of coverage type and user inputted Site/RFSS. With preferences, some people may have good luck with it, but I've never really had consistent reliable luck messing with and trying out all the different settings of preferred/allowed/blocked site settings using NAS at least for being on the fringe of systems I'd monitor, I've dumbed down differing my RSSI thresholds as well. And who knows with all kinds of firmware revisions breaking and fixing things. My radios flash memory has been well broken in written for all kinds of testing, probably more than any offical moto testing, ha ha ha. It work for some time, then with tx inhibit check site search and it'd have wandered off being on SmartZone, as expected a real radio would attempt to create a connection at all costs but as talked of below, ours being in NAS I think it ignores a lot of things, I don't think it treats a NAS configuration as well as being parked on a true trunked talkgroup config. I always end up instead doing the old reliable way and set the coverage type to disabled and input the proper site id/rfss, CCs only for the site I'm interested in. Being all my NAS radios have as a rule TX Inhibit, I don't have radios attempting to transmit to begin with.

That with incorrect system settings, that it still wants to affiliate while on conventional channels, and I recall a member on here talking about how much worse it was than these few little things, back in the 2000's of original astro days, along with a few officially listed bugs. Also that a radio will receive FDMA NAS while on system defaults, like I said it ignores a few things, this feature may not be as solid as we expect, being NAS,(conventional + trunked reception) a feature developed several generations old built back then without knowing if its been as upkept as other features thru the development of new features and I'd not think its be as well used feature these days typical of most users. As well because of that, I think the site preference settings is really meant to be reliable for an on-system feature. NAS works well and pretty much as intended but as we've seen its not without fault.
 
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On an unrelated note and I hope you guys don’t mind me asking an unrelated question about NAS but are these XTS radios that are NAS still susceptible to simulcast distortion? I have a couple that are NAS and my main one which I have been using for going on 4 months now always acts strange when receiving local fire tones. It will only play the first second of the tone and go mute then the next second of the second tone go mute. It receives about 90-95% of the voice but somtimes mutes out, the TG name always shows up though. The system is local and it’s a single site simulcast system. Also I have a stubby OEM 800/900 antenna could that be the problem ?
 

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Actual properly programmed subscriber radios don't have "simulcast distortion". Properly tuned and aligned subscribers work they way they are intended. Only low rent consumer trash can scanners can't deal with CQPSK linear simulcast. Nothing "distorted" about that.
 

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Ok then could it be my antenna then? I mean it’s an XTS 5k model 2 it may need to be aligned (which I’ve been told is going to be more than the radio cost me haha) but it’s not like it’s a bofeng.
 

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1) Stubby antennas are a compromise, you'd be better off with the proper full size whip for the band you're monitoring
2) Make sure you have it set to CQPSK modulation, not C4FM
3) An alignment on a radio that old certainly can't hurt, but I'd address #1 and #2 first
 

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Thanks I have a new antenna on order and I’ll double check the modulation I appreciate it everyone
 
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