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You need more then the correct flash. There are threads on this subject on the forum, also a google search will provide some YouTube videos.
What system are you wanting to monitor?
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What system are you wanting to monitor?
Do you want to monitor a Trunked system with a Moto? Read This!
Here are the key facts that you need to know about monitoring a TRS with your /\/\otorola radio: Programming of Motorola Radios is done with software called CPS - see the sticky in this forum for info on how to legally obtain it - it's actually quite easy; Motorola is glad to sell it to you...
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chrismol1
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The last time I looked on youtube there were a few of them, I'd watch every bit you can find, take in all that you can find. Before I attempted to NAS programming, I spent 2 months vacuuming up every bit of information and searched every thread for every spec of info relating to NAS (non affiliate scan). I was Johnny 5, all I wanted was INPUT.
There are youtube guides but, IMO, what there isn't much of is explanation of how these systems work and what each option is when programming. The default settings are not always what you desire, so it requires knowledge of how these system work, it's a good idea to have that base knowledge. The CPS help guide can provide some description of each option. I recall there over the past few years, there are
some very good in depth NAS posts we've done on here in the past few years, if you search in this forum you will find them. and I suggest anyone attempting, to absorb this information and never stop seeking information.
There are youtube guides but, IMO, what there isn't much of is explanation of how these systems work and what each option is when programming. The default settings are not always what you desire, so it requires knowledge of how these system work, it's a good idea to have that base knowledge. The CPS help guide can provide some description of each option. I recall there over the past few years, there are
some very good in depth NAS posts we've done on here in the past few years, if you search in this forum you will find them. and I suggest anyone attempting, to absorb this information and never stop seeking information.
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Youd be better off with a unication
MTS2000des
5B2_BEE00 Czar
Scanners are no fun and don't have the same cosplay value.I see a theme...most NAS question threads all end the same:
Buy a scanner
I wonder why
If you paint them green…
Most monitoring is on mspc apco 25 MDOT plows ambo and fire, any other non-PD as PD is encrypted. every video has system key ticked and i do not have key. thanks againYou need more then the correct flash. There are threads on this subject on the forum, also a google search will provide some YouTube videos.
What system are you wanting to monitor?
Do you want to monitor a Trunked system with a Moto? Read This!
Here are the key facts that you need to know about monitoring a TRS with your /\/\otorola radio: Programming of Motorola Radios is done with software called CPS - see the sticky in this forum for info on how to legally obtain it - it's actually quite easy; Motorola is glad to sell it to you...
If you don’t have the system key, you’re out of luck. Can’t do much of anything trunked without it.
Best bet is to buy a Unication pager or trunked scanner.
without a system key, you cant enter any trunk settings. I've seen a few of the videos and they dont mention that. They are not going to show you how to generate a syskey or a way to bypass that due to legal issues.
Another cringe-worthy post from our resident self-dubbed Founder of NAS.
- The system key is for CPS/codeplug programming only
- The system key does not reside anywhere in the subscriber or codeplug, ergo it has absolutely no role in any sort of "verification" when the "radio transmits"
- The system key's sole purpose is to unlock fields in CPS so that you can modify certain trunking parameters that would be locked down otherwise
- The system key must match the SysID before you can make any changes to that system in the codeplug
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ElroyJetson
Getting tired of all the stupidity.
I honestly don't know why I keep getting that wrong. I've read it often enough and repeated it back often enough. I guess that rut in my brain is just so deep I keep falling into it. Welcome to that age where retirement is a distinct possibility!
But if you use the wrong key, say the sys ID is 1234 and you use key 5678, and everything else is correct for sys 1234, it's going to bonk at you when you do try to transmit. I did that experiment, long ago and the statute of limitations ran out long ago. I even duped a known good ID, and the radio was denied. And quickly shut off, antenna removed, and reprogrammed to avoid being inhibited. Maybe it was something else that I missed? Could be, it was a long time ago.
Yet the sys ID is visible data if you are monitoring the system using whatever flavor of trunked data collection software and receiver you prefer, be it SDR or old school data slicer and trunker software.
Once again, though, I do not claim to have invented NAS but I don't recall that anybody posted about it before me back in the days when buttlabs had any meaning or value. I'll own the idea that I was the guy who made it public. Not that this was necessarily a good thing.
But if you use the wrong key, say the sys ID is 1234 and you use key 5678, and everything else is correct for sys 1234, it's going to bonk at you when you do try to transmit. I did that experiment, long ago and the statute of limitations ran out long ago. I even duped a known good ID, and the radio was denied. And quickly shut off, antenna removed, and reprogrammed to avoid being inhibited. Maybe it was something else that I missed? Could be, it was a long time ago.
Yet the sys ID is visible data if you are monitoring the system using whatever flavor of trunked data collection software and receiver you prefer, be it SDR or old school data slicer and trunker software.
Once again, though, I do not claim to have invented NAS but I don't recall that anybody posted about it before me back in the days when buttlabs had any meaning or value. I'll own the idea that I was the guy who made it public. Not that this was necessarily a good thing.
