Yaesu: Yaesu FT60R vs Baofeng UV5G

[mmckenna]

Jenny consumer's cellphone doesn't work in her house, so off to Chinazon to buy a "booster".

Hey, I know her! 867-5309, right? She used to be Jessie's girl, if I recall correctly.

 

[rescuecomm]

At least the low end radios are intermittent carriers. One of the local GMRS repeaters (Motorola 2000) works fine in the morning and early afternoon. After about 5:00pm the noise floor goes up until the repeater is fully desensed. Historically only a few problems at the site mostly from lightning struck paging consoles. After the gated community went in with million dollar residential homes, it hasn't been the same. The guys weren't able to pinpoint it, so it's probably consumer wireless devices.

 

[WRQS621]

How have spurious emissions negatively impacted your life?

Exactly

 

[MTS2000des]

 

[MTS2000des]

So @KY4OA no one's life put at risk when these turdpiles radiate where they aren't supposed to whether it's spurious or intentional? Change my mind.

 

[mmckenna]

How have spurious emissions negatively impacted your life?

Exactly

Cheap Chinese electronics raise the noise floor on the bands, it can cause direct interference to other systems.
As the noise floor rises, more and more TAXPAYER dollars go into radio system upgrades to overcome higher noise floors and mitigate interference. Talk to anyone who has worked in the LMR industry (not hobbyists) for more than a few years, and you'll hear the complaints. Talk to -anyone- who has worked on BDA systems, and they'll happily explain to you the issues caused by cheap electronics spewing out noise where they shouldn't be hosing up these systems.

The burden isn't on everyone else to adapt to cheap hams using low quality radios and making everyone else just accept the interference.
The Chinese do not care one iota that their products are causing issues for public safety/LMR systems in the USA, all they care about is getting American dollars fed into their financial system. And -some- hobbyists seem to side with them, as well as actively encourage it.

There is no reason Bao/Po/Fung can't make a radio that will behave properly. The FCC could enforce it.
But ham/hobbyists would complain that their $20 radio now cost $25, and how it's not fair to them.

 

[jaspence]

I purchased my FT60R shortly after it was first on the market. Later I purchased a UV-5G for my collection. The FT60R still works every time I turn it on, while the 5G was added to the junk pile when it no loner functioned dependably several years ago.

 

[prcguy]

That's not the radio, you are overloading the SDR receiver and its creating most of the spurious signals shown. I've measured a bunch of Baofengs on a service monitor and separate spectrum analyzer and some don't meet specs but its a minor problem like 2nd harmonic only -58dBc verses -60dBc. You will never see a spectrum out of any radio that looks like what is shown, its almost impossible.

Put 20dB external attenuation on your SDR and measure again.

 

[WaveFront]

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There is no reason Bao/Po/Fung can't make a radio that will behave properly
But ham/hobbyists would complain that their $20 radio now cost $25, and how it's not fair to them.

One of the few true statements in the thread so far. I'm keeping my Baofengs out of the landfill for now. They sit right next to the FT-60, they're buds, but fight over antennas.