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ladn

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I have dual band radios in my vehicles and I like to monitor 146.52 MHz for SOTA activations in the local mountains and whatever while driving. My home QTH is in the northeast San Fernando Valley of Los Angeles and my work QTH is just off I-10 east of downtown LA.

Over the past few months, I've been hearing one station pretty much nonstop throughout the day. He identifies with a callsign and claim to be in in "Little Saigon" in Orange Co. Recently another station has joined him and advertises his QTH as "near Knotts Berry Farm". Both say they are base stations.

Little Saigon monopolizes the channel by calling CQ and doing radio checks. I hardly ever hear him have a real QSO. Knotts rambles on, and on, talking about how 50 watts of power isn't enough and how he wants to upgrade to 400 watts and use a beam antenna. His voice quality, along with his syntax, is sadly reminiscent of a CB operator (strong signal, slightly muffled voice quality).

I'm not the radio police and both stations are probably operating legally, but certainly pushing the limits of good operating practices. 146.52 is supposed to be a calling frequency but that's only common use and practice. There's no actual requirement that it be used as such. These stations have made it the equivalent of CB Channel 6, aka "the Superbowl".

My radio has a channel selector and volume control and I usually just go off channel or turn down the volume when I hear these clowns. I realize there's nothing more to be done, and like most of the other lids, they will eventually find another shinny bobble to attract their attention.

I feel better, now, after venting.!
 

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Drove through LA last week with 146.52 on. Heard a few QSO's, but some of those were jammed by someone playing music.

Like you, I turned the volume down until I was out of there.
 

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Sorry to hear about that Roger, it sounds like a pia.. so I was wondering, you say that you do hear a call sign, what information do you gain when you look that up in the database and do you think it's worth it to at least go on the record with your local FCC office?

By the way the national Simplex calling frequency is not very busy in my area but I do monitor it. I was wondering if you've heard about the North American Adventure Channel which is 146.58, as an alternative national simplex frequency that would be used by SOTA and POTA.

I read some stuff about it and I was just wondering if you had heard anything.
 

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There was a time when it was considered poor practice to operate contests on the calling frequencies as well, but those days are gone. What you are experiencing are the stages of grief. You are passing through from “denial” to “anger”, over the death of common courtesy, specifically as it pertains to ham radio. I am at the “acceptance” stage, and as such have moved on from ham radio. We will always carry the memories of how things used to be, but there is no looking back.
 
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You have my sympathy Roger ;)

Where I live we have very little .52 activity except for the SOTA activities and some local chatting.

My ranch neighbor who recently got his ham license has been really enjoying the new hobby. I am sure he'd take a very active interest in Little Saigon... he's quite the Vietnam vet--
A visit from him and his sons would quickly settle the matter without the need of any "badges."
(a la an episode of Yellowstone :giggle: )


Lauri Beth Dutton :sneaky:

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P.S---- I just heard about ".58" Some SOTA stations will often announce on 52 they will be on 58--- and then move. The level of activity is so low here that moving isn't really necessary so when I SOTA I stay on 52. I'll put 58 in my mental bank of frequencies though, for the future.

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trentbob

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You have my sympathy Roger

Where I live we have very little .52 activity except for the SOTA activities and some local chatting.

My ranch neighbor who recently got his ham license has been really enjoying the new hobby. I am sure he'd take a very active interest in Little Saigon... he's quite the Vietnam vet--
A visit from him and his sons would quickly settle the matter without the need of any "badges."
(a la an episode of Yellowstone :giggle: )


Lauri Beth Dutton :sneaky:

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P.S---- I just heard about ".58" Some SOTA stations will often announce on 52 they will be on 58--- and then move. The level of activity is so low here that moving isn't really necessary so when I SOTA I stay on 52. I'll put 58 in my mental bank of frequencies though, for the future.

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Yes Beth, ;) most of what I've read about .58 is that it was being planned for POTA but then SOTA was being encouraged to use it, as I say in my area it's irrelevant.

PS .. I was very happy to see that you survived the bombing, you were working on things so well just to have it all blow up in your face :).
 
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The only thing I've heard is a clown on an electric bicycle riding around the local area giving traffic reports, commenting on people's houses, kvetching about the HOA, or the local repeater's owners. He can talk seemingly endlessly on topics that few would ever care about.
 

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Different areas are different regarding 146.52. Last weekend I heard a regular simplex net meet on 146.52. When I go to OH from VA, when I pass through PA, I routinely talk to a ham there on 146.52. Expecting one to go to a simplex frequency while driving at 70 mph invites dange. In areas where 146.52 traffic is light, I suspect the norm is often to use it for local simplex QSOs and it is common for that also to happen on interstates--any local plan for a different frequency for doing that is not going to work for pass-through drivers. Practicality will when over rigidity of rules.
 

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As a long time ham myself, I would say that is one of the many definitions of "amateur radio" right there.

His conversations would bore a 50 year certified member of the ol' Ragchewer's Club. Nothing technical or radio related, just club personalities and anything else under the Sun that is less exciting than watching epoxy set. No callsigns, no breaks in dialogue or feedback, it honestly reminds me of listening to the old Mike Douglas talk show with an hour plus monologue.
 
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His conversations would bore a 50 year certified member of the ol' Ragchewer's Club. Nothing technical or radio related, just club personalities and anything else under the Sun that is less exciting than watching epoxy set. No callsigns, no breaks in dialogue or feedback, it honestly reminds me of listening to the old Mike Douglas talk show with an hour plus monologue.

Some seem to think the "time out timer" was something you treated as a goal to aim for.

I used to talk to a guy on .52 on the way to work most mornings, but that was a long time ago. He was in a good location and we could talk for about half an hour.
I was one who always felt it was a "make a contact and switch to another frequency", but I quickly learned no one else did, and long QSO's on calling channels was just the norm around here. I don't let it bug me. I'll switch if I can, but I don't get hung up on it.
 

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I've heard Mr. Knotts Berry Farm a few times. He's not IN Knotts Berry Farm, and strangely lives in a different city and county from the farm as well.

I've heard he also hangs out on 144.250 SSB. So if you want to get under his craw, start using FM there, and when he complains, just inform him it's legal, and if he complains about it being bad operating practices...

Calling "CQ" on a channelized radio always seemed odd to me. It's not like we're using VFO's any more.
 
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