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I am a volunteer fire fighter at Morgans Corner Fire Dept. west of Skiatook. We have the state net 155.490 programed on our radios in case we need to "get ahold of Osage County". We have never been in a situation when we needed any law enforcement assistance, so i was wondering, do any agencies monitor the 490 net anymore? I figured it would be nice to know just in case!
 

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Many agencies in the rural areas of NE Okla still have 155.490 and/or 155.760 programmed into their vehicles, mostly to use for inter-agency communications. OHP still has it in many of their vehicles in the rural areas since it was so popular in years past and so many agencies still have it in their vehicles. There may even be a few small towns still using it for primary, but one doesn't come to mind that I'm sure still uses it for primary. As for how many are actually monitoring it to listen for calls on it, no way to know that, but there are likely still quite afew in the rural areas. In Osage county, if you tried to reach the S.O. or OHP on it, you'd have a good chance of reaching someone I would think. Skiatook PD may even monitor it.

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YES

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ALL AGENICES HAVE 155.490 AND 155.670 PROGRAMMED INTO THEIR RADIO's. COUPLE OF REASON:

(1) FOR PURSUITS (CAR TO CAR)

(2) AGENCY ASSISTS

(3) POLICE HELICOPTER

(4) LIFEFLIGHT, etc.

IF YOU HAVE NOT ALREADY, WHEN YOU RESPOND TO AN ACCIDENT SCENE, IF LIFEFLIGHT IS CALLED, YOU WILL NOTICE THEY RESPOND ON 155.490 OR 155.670 WHEN THEY GET CLOSE. THIS WAY THEY KNOW WHERE THE LANDING ZONE IS SETUP. THEY WILL RARELY USE THE TOWN FREQ.

SOME SMALL TOWNS STILL USE 155.490 AS THEIR MAIN CHANNEL, OR AS A "SWITCH OVER CHANNEL"

HOPE THIS HELPS
 

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I have called for OHP on 490 on 2 occasions where I saw a drunk driver or something wrong and gotten no response around the OKC metro.
 

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WhatsnOKC,
Great to have you back in the group! I thought you had moved away to another state. Just waving a hand.

P.J. Maguire
 

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We use it here in Elk City to dispatch our city ambulances and we monitor it 24/7 at the PD and fire station. Most of the counties around us use it as their back up channel as well.

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Here in the sticks (Payne County), 490 is still widely used, even though most departments now have their own freq. You'll hear it referred to as either "four nine oh" or Mutual Aid.

FYI, the medical helios will contact the scene on whatever radio frequency they are told to call on. Around here, that will normally be 154.160 (Stillwater Fire) or 154.130 (State Fire).

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Several of the rural departments in my area (Adair county, also in the sticks :)) still use 155.490 for paging purposes and some fireground operations. It’s known around here as “49 side”. We also use it in communicating with medical helos. (EagleMed out of Tahlequah and Lifeteam IV, out of Springdale, AR)

Use has declined a bit lately, the county SO / 911 will page the fire departments out on 155.490. Once they hear someone from that department go "en route", they switch back over to their standard freq. (155.715) Westville PD still monitors it full time.

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Re: YES

LAYMAN said:
Yes,
ALL AGENICES HAVE 155.490 AND 155.670 PROGRAMMED INTO THEIR RADIO's. COUPLE OF REASON:

(1) FOR PURSUITS (CAR TO CAR)

(2) AGENCY ASSISTS

(3) POLICE HELICOPTER

(4) LIFEFLIGHT, etc.

IF YOU HAVE NOT ALREADY, WHEN YOU RESPOND TO AN ACCIDENT SCENE, IF LIFEFLIGHT IS CALLED, YOU WILL NOTICE THEY RESPOND ON 155.490 OR 155.670 WHEN THEY GET CLOSE. THIS WAY THEY KNOW WHERE THE LANDING ZONE IS SETUP. THEY WILL RARELY USE THE TOWN FREQ.

SOME SMALL TOWNS STILL USE 155.490 AS THEIR MAIN CHANNEL, OR AS A "SWITCH OVER CHANNEL"

HOPE THIS HELPS



Thats no so.......
Tulsa City, county, Ohp, for that matter most of the cities in Tulsa county
monitor 155.4900. except the ones still on lowband. While Tulsa Co. officers have low bands in some of their cars they do not in dispatch.
I have had two officers from out of the area complain to me that no one
would anwser on any of the mutual aid freqs (low band) in the Tulsa area.
As agencies have gone to 800 they have abandoned the lower freqs. In since isolating themselves from the world. It is a shame. I asked one of the Tulsa dispatchers about it they said yes they had the radios but were to busy to monitor it............

All the air evac helicopters that work in NE okla have 800 mhz radios so they can communicate with those on the state net. If you are on the edacs system ie Broken Arrow, Bixby.... you are sol. Bixby used to have low bands besides their Uhf radios in their cars. When they went to 800, they took all the radios out and refused to even let them put scanners in them ,
 

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okla-lawman said:
All the air evac helicopters that work in NE okla have 800 mhz radios so they can communicate with those on the state net. If you are on the edacs system ie Broken Arrow, Bixby.... you are sol. Bixby used to have low bands besides their Uhf radios in their cars. When they went to 800, they took all the radios out and refused to even let them put scanners in them

Actually only two of the EMS air services have the ability to use the State of Oklahoma 800 MHz TRS. MediFlight in OKC and Tulsa Life Flight in Tulsa are the only ones on the TRS. The old AirEvac in Tulsa that went out of business had it and still has a talkgroup assigned, but no users since they're gone. The other services, LifeTeam and Eaglemed, do not have the capability to use the 800 system. They all have multi band multi channel radios and can go to many different frequencies, and have many pre-set in, but those are the only two that can use the 800 TRS.

- Rob
 

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Just an FYI to anyone in the Tulsa metro area. When Eaglemed or Lifeteam has to land in our area they talk to our Saint Francis Lifeflight on the frequency (123.025) and for those new the hobby that's in AM mode. I have also heard our Lifeflight and Mediflight talk to our Saint Francis dispatcher on that frequency as well.

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All the air evac helicopters that work in NE okla have 800 mhz radios so they can communicate with those on the state net. If you are on the edacs system ie Broken Arrow, Bixby.... you are sol. Bixby used to have low bands besides their Uhf radios in their cars. When they went to 800, they took all the radios out and refused to even let them put scanners in them ,[/quote]

Not all of the medical helicopters have 800 mhz radios. There are no "AirEvac" helicopters anymore. AirEvac is no longer in operation.

It's been more than 10 years since Bixby had low bands in their cars. They were using UHF exclusively in 1995 for sure. Some of the officers do in fact have scanners in their units and listen on a regular basis to TCSO and TPD. :?
 

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okla-lawman said:
Thats no so.......
Tulsa City, county, Ohp, for that matter most of the cities in Tulsa county
monitor 155.4900. except the ones still on lowband. While Tulsa Co. officers have low bands in some of their cars they do not in dispatch.
I have had two officers from out of the area complain to me that no one
would anwser on any of the mutual aid freqs (low band) in the Tulsa area.
As agencies have gone to 800 they have abandoned the lower freqs. In since isolating themselves from the world. It is a shame. I asked one of the Tulsa dispatchers about it they said yes they had the radios but were to busy to monitor it............

All the air evac helicopters that work in NE okla have 800 mhz radios so they can communicate with those on the state net. If you are on the edacs system ie Broken Arrow, Bixby.... you are sol. Bixby used to have low bands besides their Uhf radios in their cars. When they went to 800, they took all the radios out and refused to even let them put scanners in them ,

OK, lowband (30-50 MHz) or highband (150-174 MHz)? Other than the OHP, I don't believe there have been very many agencies in Oklahoma on lowband since the late '60s, early '70s.

Mark S.
 

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In the Tulsa area when you refer to low band, they are referring to the
vhf frequencie Nobody that I know of is still using the low low band. It is common language in this are that low band means vhf.
 

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okla-lawman said:
In the Tulsa area when you refer to low band, they are referring to the
vhf frequencie Nobody that I know of is still using the low low band. It is common language in this are that low band means vhf.

Common or not, it's wrong.

Standard usage is lowband means VHF-low (30-50 MHz) and highband means VHF-high (150-174 MHz).

Example: the manual for my BC780 has this under the frequency range,
29.7-50.0 MHz VHF Low Band
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148-174 MHz VHF High Band

Motorola refers to their 40-50 MHz radios as "lowband".

The OHP still use their VHF-low frequencies. I hear radio traffic on 44.70 and 45.22 MHz when I'm in Tulsa. And in OKC Troop A, when a trooper says something like "Go to lowband" or "Adam 6xx on lowband", they are referring to/using 45.220 MHz.

So the people in the Tulsa area need to get with the program, and use the accurate terminology. After all, compared to 800 MHz, the UHF band could be called "low" band. :lol:

Mark S.
 

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I agree that 40-50 is the real low band. Most trooper in the Tulsa area
ie Tulsa and Creek co which I work with some of them daily, dont have true low band radios. If you here Ohp or Tulsa Co. say go to lowband or conventional they will be on 155.........
I dont know who you are hearing on vhf low..I have a scanner on most nights 8 plus hours and have yet to hear a word.
 

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Mostly I hear Pawnee and Vinita, but I've heard the airplanes working the turnpikes on several occasions. I find it hard to understand why the OHP units don't have lowband radios. If nothing else, it makes interoperabilty outside of Troop B a real problem. Troop A still heavily uses lowband, and of course, anything west of Tulsa and Oklahoma County (roughly) is still lowband. And as mentioned in another topic, the search for the escaped prisoner is mixed lowband and trunked.

Gotta tell you, my lowband receptionis better than ever. My Alinco 6 meter mobile has extended receive which covers the OHP range, so I get a good signal even when the scanner reception is spotty. Just to make sure, I remove the mic from this radio so there are no "accidents". :lol:

Mark S.
 

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One of the features I liked when I got my icom v8000 is that you can lock
out transmit on any or all the transmit channel. I used to listen to the fed freqs and had them done that away.
I know I dont beleive any agency would do away with their older radio system to go to 800. I think they shoul all want to suppliment them. But most fall by the wayside. I tried to call a local pd who went to 800 on their
old uhf. I got repeater but no one would anwser. I finally got in range of a cell tower and they said that freq is now used for city utilities....If you would of called us in advance we could of turned the radio up... Why did they take the old radios out of the cars?? They all worked. This agency is on the edacs system and has never sucessfully patched to anybody. In the old days they were easily talked to. This is an advancement????
 
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