Allentown Fire P25

[APX7XE]

Had some questions on the Allentown Fire P25 system. I tried searching for answers but it doesn't look like there's been any discussion here on this system since 2020.

I want to program this system into my scanner but it's sounding like there are more talkgroups on the system than are listed in the RR database. Would anyone here have the full list of talkgroups? The RR database has talkgroups for only Ops 1, Ops 2 and the six station dispatch channels. But from what I'm hearing it sounds like there's also two citywide dispatch TG's, two fireground TG's, a county mutual aid TG and a ton of training channels, but I can't find these anywhere.

Any help would be appreciated!

 

[Whiskey3JMC]

Welcome to the RR forums. The RRDB depends on user submissions to stay up to date. I'm out of range otherwise I'd do the sleuthing myself.

I want to program this system into my scanner

What make & model scanner? You'll need to enable traffic from unknown talkgroups to pass through (whether it be ID search, a wildcard talkgroup, etc). Once you've logged all pertinent info from the alleged unknowns (TGIDs, their modes & descriptions) then submit an update so you & others can benefit!

 

[JimBobTerp]

Had some questions on the Allentown Fire P25 system. I tried searching for answers but it doesn't look like there's been any discussion here on this system since 2020.

I want to program this system into my scanner but it's sounding like there are more talkgroups on the system than are listed in the RR database. Would anyone here have the full list of talkgroups? The RR database has talkgroups for only Ops 1, Ops 2 and the six station dispatch channels. But from what I'm hearing it sounds like there's also two citywide dispatch TG's, two fireground TG's, a county mutual aid TG and a ton of training channels, but I can't find these anywhere.

Any help would be appreciated!

Let me ask a few people that I know that are good friends with City of Allentown Fire Department and see if he can tell me that if they have more TG for the Fire Department

 

[radiocrazy123]

Also I need to know the NAC, its not listed..

 

[Whiskey3JMC]

Also I need to know the NAC, its not listed..

@APX7XE (or anyone else within range reading this) if you programmed the system in would you be able to submit a database update with the site NAC?

 

[nosoup4u]

Here you go

 

[Whiskey3JMC]

Great, thanks. Now to address the OP's original question have you logged anything unknown?

But from what I'm hearing it sounds like there's also two citywide dispatch TG's, two fireground TG's, a county mutual aid TG and a ton of training channels, but I can't find these anywhere.

 

[APX7XE]

I was able to check out an Allentown portable recently and the talkgroups are totally different from what's in the RR database. They don't have all those individual station dispatch talkgroups. Channels in order are:
Fire Dispatch 1
Fire Dispatch 2
Fireground 1
Fireground 2
EMS Dispatch
Public Safety 1
FD Training
FD Events

 

[HM1529]

The individual station alerting talkgroups are likely not anything from the radio channel list. They're probably just there to activate stuff inside the station and play the dispatch announcement specific to that station. The Ops 1 and Ops 2 talkgroups in the database are most likely actually the Fire Dispatch 1 and Fire Dispatch 2 channels listed above. Fireground 1 and 2 may be simplex frequencies not trunked talkgroups if nobody has ever heard any fireground type activities on the trunking system. The others just need to be matched up with unknown talkgroup IDs.

EDIT: Or the fireground talkgroups could be encrypted like Philly? I've never seen anything indicating that, though.

 

[HM1529]

I went through the Calls logs and the following talkgroups are all associated with AFD:

201​	T	AFD Dispatch 1
202​	T	AFD Dispatch 2
211​	T	AFD unknown
212​	T	AFD unknown
215​	T	AFD Training (slow convos describing buildings on fire and strategies)
220​	T	AFD unknown
231​	T	AFD unknown
235​	T	AFD Training (live fire exercises w SCBA)
241​	T	AFD Central Station Alert
242​	T	AFD Hibernia Station Alert
243​	T	AFD East Side Station Alert
244​	T	AFD Fearless Station Alert
245​	T	AFD West End Station Alert
246​	T	AFD Mack South Station Alert

The following talkgroups are associated with AEMS:

20	T	AEMS Cedar Crest?
301​	T	AEMS Dispatch
304​	T	AEMS unknown
307​	T	AEMS Sacred Heart?
308​	T	AEMS St Lukes?
310​	T	AEMS unknown
311​	T	AEMS Event Ops
320​	TE	AEMS encrypted
321​	TE	AEMS encrypted
322​	TE	AEMS encrypted
323​	TE	AEMS encrypted
324​	TE	AEMS encrypted
325​	TE	AEMS
326​	TE	AEMS
327​	T	Various RIDS (not just EMS) radio checks
331​	TE	AEMS
332​	TE	AEMS
341​	T	AEMS Central Station Alert
346​	T	AEMS Mack South Station Alert