Appalachian Power (American Electric Power) -- migration to P25

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I think you are correct...I back checked in the FCC data base through the call sign for Rainelle and bingo there it was!
Not to far from where I live and closer than the DUO site although in the some county.
I'll take the SDS100 on the road and see if I can hear it.
 

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Site 37 Flat Top has indicated a new neighbor today, 92715, 1F7, 25.25 854.8875 CC.
I cannot find that frequency in the EDACS database and only in 1F6 and 1F9 Systems in P25 database
Totally new site or conversion with new CC? I cannot hear it from my location.
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Hi Harry,

I see you've already added that to the 1F7 wiki. Thanks for doing that. That's basically what we do when we believe a site is online (based upon peer/neighbor lisrts) but cannot confirm directly that it is online. I appreciate you adding all that you are discovering, even if it is data entered in the wiki.

Mike
 

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Hello Mike, I was only able to infer that the site might be Rainelle WV based on the FCC data. I hope that my entry in the wiki was proper and I appreciate you verifying that. I did get your response from the submission of 854.8875 and no I have not actually monitored traffic on that particular EDACS system. When I get a chance I will go to a spot to see if I can actually hear the Rainelle site CC and collect some data. Thanks Harry.
 

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Hello Mike, I was only able to infer that the site might be Rainelle WV based on the FCC data. I hope that my entry in the wiki was proper and I appreciate you verifying that. I did get your response from the submission of 854.8875 and no I have not actually monitored traffic on that particular EDACS system. When I get a chance I will go to a spot to see if I can actually hear the Rainelle site CC and collect some data. Thanks Harry.

Thanks, Harry. I will go ahead and close that submission. And yes, I do appreciate you editing the wiki and adding any new sites suspected online (but not confirmed by personal monitoring). That way you/me or anyone else can go to the wiki and know which ones to look out for!

I appreciate your participation in getting the AEP system detailed for WV.

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It’s interesting to me Mike because my father worked for Appalachian power for 40 years and was the transmission and distribution dispatcher in Beckley. He was the voice of KQB222, 135 W on 37 MHz.
 

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It’s interesting to me Mike because my father worked for Appalachian power for 40 years and was the transmission and distribution dispatcher in Beckley. He was the voice of KQB222, 135 W on 37 MHz.

That's very cool, Harry. I bet it was great to be able to listen to him on the scanner doing the dispatch. I always especially enjoyed the VHF-LO dispatches when they went on in my neck of the woods too. Of course, most of them were simplex frequencies, so sometimes you'd hear the mobiles and sometimes you wouldn't. Times sure have changed.

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My father was not a technician by any stretch of the imagination. I do believe that his location got me interested in radio and I moved to the technical side of things as an amateur back in the 70s. And you’re right things have changed, and it’s been fun keeping up with the technology.SDR and the quest to discover these P 25 sites has given me a new interest. Thanks for your help have a great day.
 

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Took Fast Lane on the road today
Rainelle WV (Fayette) first seen as neighbor to 37.37 on 6.15.2021
25.25, NAC 019, 854.8875 CC, 855.9125 ACC, 856.9125 ACC,
Neighbors indicated by DSD+FL
5.5 Duo 858.7875
19.19 Elkhurst? 856.3875
36.36 Ansted 855.2625
37.37 Flat Top 854.9125
Made an edit to the wiki...

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My father was not a technician by any stretch of the imagination. I do believe that his location got me interested in radio and I moved to the technical side of things as an amateur back in the 70s. And you’re right things have changed, and it’s been fun keeping up with the technology.SDR and the quest to discover these P 25 sites has given me a new interest. Thanks for your help have a great day.

I feel the same way about a "new interest" -- I rarely ever monitor anything around me (Law is all encrypted). Monitoring the AEP sites as they sprung up in Ohio gave me soem
Took Fast Lane on the road today
Rainelle WV (Fayette) first seen as neighbor to 37.37 on 6.15.2021
25.25, NAC 019, 854.8875 CC, 855.9125 ACC, 856.9125 ACC,
Neighbors indicated by DSD+FL
5.5 Duo 858.7875
19.19 Elkhurst? 856.3875
36.36 Ansted 855.2625
37.37 Flat Top 854.9125
Made an edit to the wiki...

Harry

Thanks, Harry. Great work. 1F7-25.25 has been added to the DB.

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Had to drive about 20 miles to a high point in the direction of the Rainelle site to get a good signal.
Glad to confirm. Hoped to back check neighbors 5 and 19 but no joy. Thanks Harry
 

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Looked it up and from what I found it could be either Bolt, Elgood, or Elkhurst. From what it looks like it most likely is Elkhurst but could be Bolt. Won't know for sure unless we have all frequencies with the tower
 

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Site 19 should be Elkhurst, because the wiki showed it having a control channel of 855.7875 at one time.
Bolt and Elgood are not licensed to 855.7875, but Elkhurst is. Like Josh said we will have to wait until we get all the frequencies to be sure.
 

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I will know when Bolt comes online. I’m almost line of sight to that particular location. I have it as one of the regular scans on my SDS 100.
 

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I will know when Bolt comes online. I’m almost line of sight to that particular location. I have it as one of the regular scans on my SDS 100.

Sounds good. I think are in a good area you figure out quite a few new sites when they come online. If they happen to be sites that you can't monitor directly, at least you'll be able to periodically monitor the control channels of the sites that are online to see when new neighbors show up. That's going to help tremendously to have somebody down in your area.

@firemantom26 and @n8jsw have confirmed the majority of online WV sites thus far from either direct monitoring (northern panhandle) or via tropo. But tropo usually doesn't extend that far down into WV from Ohio, or when it does they end up picking up other P25 sites that are closer to them on control channel freqs of sites they are trying to confirm farther away.

Will be interesting to see how this progresses now that you are on board with monitoring down in your part of the state.

Mike
 

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I may try and move my antenna a little more south and see if that will eliminate some of the CC that AEP is using here in Ohio that are the same as the WV sites CC.
Seven of eight CC I pickup, but not WV sites we are looking for. Site 28 has the same CC as a voice channel for a local Ohio MARCS. Can't catch a break. LOL
 

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American Electric Power P25
Frame WV (Kanawha)
1F7 92715 NAC 01A
856.3375 CC
858.3375 ACC
859.8375 ACC
Peers
8.8 854.0375 Sissonville
9.9 855.2625 Kenna
30.30 857.3625 Institute
31.31 855.4125 Coal Fork

Also updated Wiki with peer and alternate CC data for 8.8 Sissonville, 9.9 Kenna and 31.31 Coal Fork

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