Appalachian Power (American Electric Power) -- migration to P25

mtindor

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Thanks for your reply...Both Kingston and Bolt are still active on EDACS system.
I monitor AEP regularly...
OK. I don't doubt that they are online. BUT, please do consider reviewing all of the frequencies on each of the site licenses that you can copy -- if you have a scanner capable of digital and you know the difference between what an EDACS control channel and a P25 control channel sound like. Because when they turn up a new P25 site, the old EDACS site is often online for a little while -- So you may find EDACS still monitorable but might be surprised by an active P25 control channel at the same site. I'm not just mentioning this for your sake, but for the sake of anyone else reading this. EDACS Online does not [necessarily] mean that P25 is not online at the same location.

Logan, Madison, Hershaw, Coal Fork, Ansted and Duo are all online, and they surround the sites you monitor and are neighbors/peers. So if the sites you monitor do not have P25 online yet, they probably will soon.

Google Map - Lists all licensed frequencies for each site (at least in most states).

If you have a Uniden digital scanner (which you probably do since you were asking about Sentinel), then you could use Search mode to search 854 mhz - 862 mhz for the existence of any P25 control channels within monitoring distance of you. If you happen to do a search and find any, please let us know anything/everything that your display reports. It's really best to use Pro96Com / Unitrunker / DSDPlus to sleuth out the P25 sites in full detail, but if you do not have access to them you can at least get some information from the P25 control channel in Search mode.

Mike
 

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Map is very helpful...Large dots, confirmed? Small dots, licensed but unconfirmed?
I can usually hear Bolt, Kingston and Flat Top from home. I'll program these in and keep an ear out.
I am using an SDS100 now. I do have an HP-1E that I used with Unitrunker years ago but not sure it would be any help with Phase 2, P25.
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Map is very helpful...Large dots, confirmed? Small dots, licensed but unconfirmed?
I can usually hear Bolt, Kingston and Flat Top from home. I'll program these in and keep an ear out.
I am using an SDS100 now. I do have an HP-1E that I used with Unitrunker years ago but not sure it would be any help with Phase 2, P25.
Thanks
Not quite. If you see red colored or blue colored, that means the sites ARE online and either we don't know the location yet OR (more likely) nobody has confirmed it is online by personal monitoring even though we know in our hearts that it is online. Those are the bigger balloons.

The "dots" are FCC licensed sites. Don't pay any attention to the different colors of the "dot" sites, other than to know they are color coded to be Appalachian Power (blue) or Kentucky Power (green).

So darker blue balloons are confirmed by personal / direct monitoring. Lighter blue ballons are online (based upon peer/neighbor reports of other sites) but have not been confirmed by direcdt monitoring by a user. And the dots are FCC-licensed sites for which we have not had any reports of them being online yet (via direct monitoring or via P25 peer/neighbor advertisement).

But, just because a site is a "dot" and thus not confirmed online or "likely" online, that doesn't mean it isn't online. The majority of "dots" will become balloons eventually as new sites come online.

Mike
 

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Map is very helpful...Large dots, confirmed? Small dots, licensed but unconfirmed?
I can usually hear Bolt, Kingston and Flat Top from home. I'll program these in and keep an ear out.
I am using an SDS100 now. I do have an HP-1E that I used with Unitrunker years ago but not sure it would be any help with Phase 2, P25.
Thanks
And to add on to my last post, do this:

Go to American Electric Power P25 Trunking System, various, Multi-State - Scanner Frequencies
- Click on the Wiki link
- then Click on American Electric Power P25 - 1F7 - Appalachian Power Site Research

On the 1F7 page, you''ll see what sites have been confirmed online by personal monitoring (online xx-xx-xxxx) versus ones believed to be online but not directly confirmed ("needs confirmed")

Mike
 

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Took my SDS100 on a little roadtrip to see if I could confirm AEP P25 activity.
Data from the Ansted site in Fayette County WV
System ID - 01F7h
Site - 0036
WACN - 42715h
NAC 024h
RFSSID-36
TG 4209 - Discussing service disconnection, unknown location
TG 4220 - Identified as DDC (discussing work assignment with, unknown location)
Nothing from Kingston, Bolt or Flat Top
 

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Took my SDS100 on a little roadtrip to see if I could confirm AEP P25 activity.
Data from the Ansted site in Fayette County WV
System ID - 01F7h
Site - 0036
WACN - 42715h
NAC 024h
RFSSID-36
TG 4209 - Discussing service disconnection, unknown location
TG 4220 - Identified as DDC (discussing work assignment with, unknown location)
Nothing from Kingston, Bolt or Flat Top
What was the control channel? We have to know that as well to add it to the DB.

Mike
 

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Found a place closer to home with good signal.
855.2625 was only frequency to return the values from my previous post.
Did not hear any TG activity...as long as I had a good signal this frequency was consistant in returning data.
Other frequencies did not return any data.
 

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Found a place closer to home with good signal.
855.2625 was only frequency to return the values from my previous post.
Did not hear any TG activity...as long as I had a good signal this frequency was consistant in returning data.
Other frequencies did not return any data.
Thanks Deac!

mike
 
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