APX Trunking Alias

[hperrenot]

My agency recently moved to the Lower Colorado River Authority (LCRA) trunking system. Before we were on conventional so when radios were programmed, it had your specific ID number associated with the radio for everyone to see when speaking.

Looking to do the same thing with LCRA, but they assign the UID number.
Is there an "easy" was that I can create alias' for all the UID numbers in my radio? We are not a "big" agency so having to deploy this manually to all radios is not at all a concern.

Using APX8000xe and APX85000

Thanks in advance.

 

[quebecradioguy]

Unified call list in your CPS!

 

[hperrenot]

I resolved my own issue shortly after posting this.

 

[jeepsandradios]

Over the air alias updates is awesome....Do they support it on the system ?

 

[hperrenot]

Over the air alias updates is awesome....Do they support it on the system ?

They might, but we do not have it as we have three radio techs including myself. We build the codeplugs and roll out updates just as fast as OTA could practically.

 

[jeepsandradios]

No over the air alias is part of the data stream. The alias pops up on the display when someone talks with whats in the system. If someone changes the alias in the master site it will automatically change in the radio. This is not over the air reprogramming.

But back to your question yet you can use unified call list to add alias list to your users.

 

[hperrenot]

e alias pops up on the display when someone talks with whats in the syste

Ah I understand what you mean.
Unfortunately, we do not have access to this..at least not that I have been made aware of.
LCRA is a huge company with thousands of users, I'm sure if we moved someone into an different unit or assigned a new radio, they would not be able to make the changes within a reasonable amount of time.

Definitely something that I will be asking about in the future though.

 

[Echo4Thirty]

No over the air alias is part of the data stream

The recent revisions of the Motorola systems can push aliases over the air. The subscriber has to be optioned for 'group services' and the system has to be configured for it. There is a checkbox in the recent APX CPS versions to enable OTA alias display and updating.

I am not sure if the Harris system run by LCRA has a similar feature, but if they did I would doubt it would be compatible with a Motorola subscriber, or anything other than a Harris one.

 

[NVAGVUP]

Ah I understand what you mean.
Unfortunately, we do not have access to this..at least not that I have been made aware of.
LCRA is a huge company with thousands of users, I'm sure if we moved someone into an different unit or assigned a new radio, they would not be able to make the changes within a reasonable amount of time.

Definitely something that I will be asking about in the future though.

I use this feature and it is a god send. Several dependencies.

1-System License. Currently allowed on our system no charge. But it is very likely it will be a license cost in future upgrades (And I won't be w/o it)
2-Subscriber Feature. (Need to have it in subscriber.) Available in APX only. Purchased at time of sale or via flash upgrade.
3-Subscriber/CPS programming. Need to check the right boxes
4-Provisioning Manager. Needs to be enabled in a Radio Capability Profile

End result is radio users (with feature) will see the radio alias of other radios. (Just like MCC consoles see)

Yes I know this can be done via UCL. BUT will radio names update after changing in PM? If you have group services active, the answer is yes. (The answer is no when leveraging UCL only)

 

[Echo4Thirty]

I use this feature and it is a god send. Several dependencies.

1-System License. Currently allowed on our system no charge. But it is very likely it will be a license cost in future upgrades (And I won't be w/o it)
2-Subscriber Feature. (Need to have it in subscriber.) Available in APX only. Purchased at time of sale or via flash upgrade.
3-Subscriber/CPS programming. Need to check the right boxes
4-Provisioning Manager. Needs to be enabled in a Radio Capability Profile

End result is radio users (with feature) will see the radio alias of other radios. (Just like MCC consoles see)

Yes I know this can be done via UCL. BUT will radio names update after changing in PM? If you have group services active, the answer is yes. (The answer is no when leveraging UCL only)

The system he is on (LCRA) is a Harris system, so I would imagine he will have to stick to the UCL local aliasing method.

 

[hperrenot]

The system he is on (LCRA) is a Harris system, so I would imagine he will have to stick to the UCL local aliasing method.

And the downside to that, we use Motorola radios…because they’re better.

 

[NVAGVUP]

The system he is on (LCRA) is a Harris system, so I would imagine he will have to stick to the UCL local aliasing method.

UCL it is! (On a Harris system, Group services would be a waste of money for Motorola subscribers. Group services is NOT P25 compliant)

 

[retired25]

I use this feature and it is a god send. Several dependencies.

1-System License. Currently allowed on our system no charge. But it is very likely it will be a license cost in future upgrades (And I won't be w/o it)
2-Subscriber Feature. (Need to have it in subscriber.) Available in APX only. Purchased at time of sale or via flash upgrade.
3-Subscriber/CPS programming. Need to check the right boxes
4-Provisioning Manager. Needs to be enabled in a Radio Capability Profile

End result is radio users (with feature) will see the radio alias of other radios. (Just like MCC consoles see)

Yes I know this can be done via UCL. BUT will radio names update after changing in PM? If you have group services active, the answer is yes. (The answer is no when leveraging UCL only)

We purchased the group services feature with our last batch of radios. I believe it has been setup in the network core. I see the aliases in our wave app. Where do I need to look in CPS to enable it on the radios? TIA.

 

[jeepsandradios]

Has the radios been setup in PM for Alias Update ? Until so the radios wont display it.

 

[GTR8000]

We purchased the group services feature with our last batch of radios. I believe it has been setup in the network core. I see the aliases in our wave app. Where do I need to look in CPS to enable it on the radios? TIA.

 

[retired25]

Thank you for the reply, I was able to get it working with your help! I guess I wasn't being patient enough, it takes a few RX rounds before it displays the name.

 

[Nbraves]

We have a demo next xn with it enabled and it works phenomenally! Anyone know why I’m not seeing it as an option for my 7000 though? I’m running R32. TIA!

 

[crazyboy]

We have a demo next xn with it enabled and it works phenomenally! Anyone know why I’m not seeing it as an option for my 7000 though? I’m running R32. TIA!

Is it in the flashcode as mentioned above?

 

[Nbraves]

Is it in the flashcode as mentioned above?

Negative, that would be it

 

[GTR8000]

We have a demo next xn with it enabled and it works phenomenally! Anyone know why I’m not seeing it as an option for my 7000 though? I’m running R32. TIA!

Is that the same 7000XE that your "friend" screwed up using Depot CPS? How ironic, changed the FLASHcode to add Tone Signaling, not bothering to add Group Services, then removing Front Display/Full Keypad from the features. Can't make this stuff up.