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advantages of the AR-DV1 with espy on ARD
When the AR-DV1 first came out there was a lot of disappointment that it did not follow trunked systems as well as other short comings that begged the question, Why spend more than twice as much on a receiver that can't do as much as the Uniden HP536? It seems as though with the development of the E-spy software the tables may have turned. I would like to see a discussion about how this software has impacted the functionality of the AOR DV-1 and what this receiver/ software combo can do that a top of the line Uniden or Whistler digital scanner can not do. In other words, The radio enthusiast would pay a premium for this receiver and software because...
When the AR-DV1 first came out there was a lot of disappointment that it did not follow trunked systems as well as other short comings that begged the question, Why spend more than twice as much on a receiver that can't do as much as the Uniden HP536? It seems as though with the development of the E-spy software the tables may have turned. I would like to see a discussion about how this software has impacted the functionality of the AOR DV-1 and what this receiver/ software combo can do that a top of the line Uniden or Whistler digital scanner can not do. In other words, The radio enthusiast would pay a premium for this receiver and software because...
Hi
[QUOTEIn other words, The radio enthusiast would pay a premium for this receiver and software because...[/QUOTE]
The latest version, with 'Q-DB', has not been released yet, but probably before Monday.
In addition to your really interesting post, lots of people have emailed me asking for more details.
So I have posted the complete 'Q' Guide, AND a specific, pictorial quick 'Q-DB' example, at the web-site
https://s3.amazonaws.com/wix-anyfile/rwc4EzZpSmgjZzQku6EQ_Q-DB Example.pdf
(if for any reason the above link to the quick Q-DB guide does not work, you can view both files by clicking on their entries in the list on the left of the page.
ardv1
I USUALLY ASK PEOPLE NOT TO POST TECHNICAL QUERIES HERE BUT TO EMAIL ME
HOWEVER
on this occasion I would be very interested if, after reading about 'Q-DB', and especially looking at the
'Q-DB' example, people would be kind enough to post some comments here regarding their thoughts about it.
I keep asking myself if I am just 'too close' to this to see the whole picture. My great team of Beta Testers tell me it is as revolutionary as I hope, but what do you think?
Just a couple of lines here would do.
Sometimes even the rogue, lone programmer needs a bit of encouragement (sigh), and just at the moment I do.
[QUOTEIn other words, The radio enthusiast would pay a premium for this receiver and software because...[/QUOTE]
The latest version, with 'Q-DB', has not been released yet, but probably before Monday.
In addition to your really interesting post, lots of people have emailed me asking for more details.
So I have posted the complete 'Q' Guide, AND a specific, pictorial quick 'Q-DB' example, at the web-site
https://s3.amazonaws.com/wix-anyfile/rwc4EzZpSmgjZzQku6EQ_Q-DB Example.pdf
(if for any reason the above link to the quick Q-DB guide does not work, you can view both files by clicking on their entries in the list on the left of the page.
ardv1
I USUALLY ASK PEOPLE NOT TO POST TECHNICAL QUERIES HERE BUT TO EMAIL ME
HOWEVER
on this occasion I would be very interested if, after reading about 'Q-DB', and especially looking at the
'Q-DB' example, people would be kind enough to post some comments here regarding their thoughts about it.
I keep asking myself if I am just 'too close' to this to see the whole picture. My great team of Beta Testers tell me it is as revolutionary as I hope, but what do you think?
Just a couple of lines here would do.
Sometimes even the rogue, lone programmer needs a bit of encouragement (sigh), and just at the moment I do.
I think no trunking is still a big issue, also the many bugs, slow updates, and no US repair for imported units as kept me and many others away at the current price point. I own 3 AOR scanners from the past.
That said... in a way trunking and scanning are not exactly compatible.
First conceptually scanners and scanning are based on the the fact the frequencies are used intermittently. This allowed one to scan a reasonable number of channels across services and agencies and actually catch a lot of the combined traffic. Trunking is designed to ensure frequencies are used more frequently thus more activity, so less channels can be scanned across systems without missing important communications.
Trunking can also significantly reduce scanning speed, since the control channel is digital it must be decoded and that takes precious time. If the Audio is digital that also takes time to get the decoder syncronized. If the agencies or groups are being filtered more checking has to be done to see if the audio is even wanted. So communications you may not even be interested in still stop scanning and use precious time to find out they are not needed. Different scanners use the control channel differently and have different issues. Most also introduce additional delays to help sync the digital decoding in various senarios. Now try to monitor 2-3 trunked systems and it gets messy fast even if they are small systems.
This means like avid scanner listens even in analog days knew, multiple recievers/scanners could be of great benefit. With digital that point i think is reached much sooner if you have a good properly engineered trunked system you listen to, and it's not the only thing you listen too. Many people buy scanners to listen to just 1 or 2 services, and many buy for diversity.
The AOR problem is even if you just want to listen to 1 service, you can't very well because they don't do control channel based trunking. So it's a lot of money for general consumers who want to have an all in 1 device.
That said... in a way trunking and scanning are not exactly compatible.
First conceptually scanners and scanning are based on the the fact the frequencies are used intermittently. This allowed one to scan a reasonable number of channels across services and agencies and actually catch a lot of the combined traffic. Trunking is designed to ensure frequencies are used more frequently thus more activity, so less channels can be scanned across systems without missing important communications.
Trunking can also significantly reduce scanning speed, since the control channel is digital it must be decoded and that takes precious time. If the Audio is digital that also takes time to get the decoder syncronized. If the agencies or groups are being filtered more checking has to be done to see if the audio is even wanted. So communications you may not even be interested in still stop scanning and use precious time to find out they are not needed. Different scanners use the control channel differently and have different issues. Most also introduce additional delays to help sync the digital decoding in various senarios. Now try to monitor 2-3 trunked systems and it gets messy fast even if they are small systems.
This means like avid scanner listens even in analog days knew, multiple recievers/scanners could be of great benefit. With digital that point i think is reached much sooner if you have a good properly engineered trunked system you listen to, and it's not the only thing you listen too. Many people buy scanners to listen to just 1 or 2 services, and many buy for diversity.
The AOR problem is even if you just want to listen to 1 service, you can't very well because they don't do control channel based trunking. So it's a lot of money for general consumers who want to have an all in 1 device.
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G7HID
Member
Possibly nature's way of saying that the AOR AR-DV1 is not for you
I got involved in analogue Motorola trunking when the police in the largest city in the UK went over to it in the early 1990's, imported the first two Uniden Trunktrakker models into the country and soon realised that by far the best method of monitoring the system was by using two scanners and a PC program called 'Trunker'. I could monitor anything that popped up on the system that I could hear - I could see and hear more than they could in their control rooms...
So I am sure that somewhere along the line someone will do the same with some flavours of digital trunking - don't write the AOR AR-DV1 off just yet..
Mike
Exactly what i'm saying. The current scanner architecture that bolts on trunking to a traditional scanner does not really work and is fundalmentally flawed in many cases as i have outlined. So yes the DV1 is not really good as a scanner in the traditional sense. Can it be used as a component of a multi-component system; sure.
Until there is a fundamental change in the design of the scanner they are far from ideal for their task in many circumstances. The AOR without trunking further limits it's use in a stanalone envirinment, while it does offer benefits in a component based system.
G7HID
Member
At the moment all bolt-ons for the AR-DV1 have been in software and I must admit to relying on Jeff's program eSPYonARD to do everything apart from switching the radio on and off and to be honest I would now have some difficulties changing some parameters with the keyboard.
There are some strong messages that AOR might be introducing more digital modes either by hardware or firmware, whatever is introduced the basic control software for it has already been written..
The highlight for me is getting to play with all of Jeff's new ideas on the AR-DV1 software as he writes them.. The latest version, I must have looked at nearly ONE HUNDRED Beta's before Jeff was happy that it would work in all Windows environments..
The new version adds another blade to the Swiss Army Knife - the ability to scan all flavours of text file frequency lists - this is a biggy and I have never seen it done before, THEN be able to filter the listing for text strings, locations etc, scan the filtered list, THEN be able to lock out (PASS) unwanted entries, this is then automatically saved in the listings folder for later scanning or for sharing with other users..
Mike
There are some strong messages that AOR might be introducing more digital modes either by hardware or firmware, whatever is introduced the basic control software for it has already been written..
The highlight for me is getting to play with all of Jeff's new ideas on the AR-DV1 software as he writes them.. The latest version, I must have looked at nearly ONE HUNDRED Beta's before Jeff was happy that it would work in all Windows environments..
The new version adds another blade to the Swiss Army Knife - the ability to scan all flavours of text file frequency lists - this is a biggy and I have never seen it done before, THEN be able to filter the listing for text strings, locations etc, scan the filtered list, THEN be able to lock out (PASS) unwanted entries, this is then automatically saved in the listings folder for later scanning or for sharing with other users..
Mike
Wideband Multi Mode digital/analogue receiver or Scanner?
AOR, from early on maintained that the AR-DV1 was not a scanner, but a wideband, multi mode, digital /analogue receiver, with the ability to scan.
Of course its big strength was the digital modes, and still is really.
It was never clear if they really had that in mind when the designed and marketed it, or if it was an excuse for the original slow Search and Scan speed, which raised a lot of criticism.
To be fair, AOR were quite quick to improve those speeds. Not the fastest no doubt, but perfectly adequate for most people.
The distinction between a wide band receiver that can 'scan', and a dedicated scanner is a difficult concept at best.
However, as the former, the AR-DV1 remains currently unique.
If it falls down anywhere in that category, is that is not easy to use unless controlled externally.
It can be done, but often you need the manual sitting by your side just to remember all the different button presses needed.
I sincerely hope that is where eSPYonARD scores. Over the months there have been lots of additions, and without doubt people who do not read its manual will miss lots of them, but the program was designed to be easy to use, and I have always tried to maintain that.
If trunking is important to a particular reason, then the AR-DV1 is not the receiver to go for. In the U.K. there is so little trunking that it hardly matters.
Prior to 'Q-DB' eSPYonARD pretty well controlled everything on the AR-DV1, and even added several functions the radio could not do on its own.
However it is the 'Q' functions, and without doubt 'Q-DB' that raises frequency acquisition, and management to a previously unimaginable level.
Does it change the AR-DV1, not at all. It is the power of eSPYonARD and the fact it is only available for the AR-DV1 that raises the stakes for the radio.
In one instance I took a list from the Internet, 8 pages long, containing almost 25,000 frequencies, and from the time I first found that list to the time it was being accessed by the AR-DV1 was just over 2 minutes.
A list with even a few hundred frequencies would take seconds.
At the end of the 'Q-DB' example pdf I mentioned above I posed a question. I think I should have asked:-
---------------------------------
If you had read an article claiming that a software package could
"IMPORT ALMOST ANY FREQUENCY LIST, FROM ANYWHERE, AND HAVE IT UP AND RUNNING IN A SCANNER/RECEIVER, IN JUST A FEW SECONDS, for instant frequency transfer or scanning,
and
You could create your own frequency lists in a Notepad file, or edit one you have downloaded with
ease, and ready for immediate use in your receiver"
Lists you can simply 'sort' so that no matter what the original looked like, within seconds they are sorted into frequency order, with the frequency as the first entry, irrespective of where it first was located in the downloaded list.
Lists that you can easily apply pass frequencies to, apply filters to, and at the click of a button transfer any frequency to the radio, or scan any of the lists, whether they are the original, sorted or even filtered.
The ability to scan those lists, and apply a chosen 'delay' once a frequency is active.
The added ability to have unlimited 'memories' all stored on the P.C. so instantly available, and which can be backed up quickly and simply.
All those things using an easy interface, mouse controlled, and I must stress again, do that within seconds of first finding the list of frequencies on the Net.
Would you have believed it, or thought it was IMPOSSIBLE?
Even a month ago, that is exactly what I would have thought.
Well the impossible is here, and if doing the impossible does not convince anyone that eSPYonARD (and consequently the AR-DV1) are now the most unique and powerful combination around, then they
are very, very hard to please.
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There are some fine 'scanners' out there. Some do trunking. Some scan faster. Some have more memories, some have WiFi.
Great machines no doubt, but the only receiver with the power eSPYonARD has to offer is the AR-DV1.
The only receiver with the power of 'Q-DB' too, and when it comes to frequency acquisition and frequency management 'Q-DB' really does take the AR-DV1 to a totally new level whether for professional or hobby use (and that is just one of the functions the program has).
Do not take my word for it. Click the link above and read the example 'Q-DB' document. It is not long or complicated, mainly pictures taking you through the steps from bringing up a list of frequencies on the NET through to them being available to the radio.
AOR, from early on maintained that the AR-DV1 was not a scanner, but a wideband, multi mode, digital /analogue receiver, with the ability to scan.
Of course its big strength was the digital modes, and still is really.
It was never clear if they really had that in mind when the designed and marketed it, or if it was an excuse for the original slow Search and Scan speed, which raised a lot of criticism.
To be fair, AOR were quite quick to improve those speeds. Not the fastest no doubt, but perfectly adequate for most people.
The distinction between a wide band receiver that can 'scan', and a dedicated scanner is a difficult concept at best.
However, as the former, the AR-DV1 remains currently unique.
If it falls down anywhere in that category, is that is not easy to use unless controlled externally.
It can be done, but often you need the manual sitting by your side just to remember all the different button presses needed.
I sincerely hope that is where eSPYonARD scores. Over the months there have been lots of additions, and without doubt people who do not read its manual will miss lots of them, but the program was designed to be easy to use, and I have always tried to maintain that.
If trunking is important to a particular reason, then the AR-DV1 is not the receiver to go for. In the U.K. there is so little trunking that it hardly matters.
Prior to 'Q-DB' eSPYonARD pretty well controlled everything on the AR-DV1, and even added several functions the radio could not do on its own.
However it is the 'Q' functions, and without doubt 'Q-DB' that raises frequency acquisition, and management to a previously unimaginable level.
Does it change the AR-DV1, not at all. It is the power of eSPYonARD and the fact it is only available for the AR-DV1 that raises the stakes for the radio.
In one instance I took a list from the Internet, 8 pages long, containing almost 25,000 frequencies, and from the time I first found that list to the time it was being accessed by the AR-DV1 was just over 2 minutes.
A list with even a few hundred frequencies would take seconds.
At the end of the 'Q-DB' example pdf I mentioned above I posed a question. I think I should have asked:-
---------------------------------
If you had read an article claiming that a software package could
"IMPORT ALMOST ANY FREQUENCY LIST, FROM ANYWHERE, AND HAVE IT UP AND RUNNING IN A SCANNER/RECEIVER, IN JUST A FEW SECONDS, for instant frequency transfer or scanning,
and
You could create your own frequency lists in a Notepad file, or edit one you have downloaded with
ease, and ready for immediate use in your receiver"
Lists you can simply 'sort' so that no matter what the original looked like, within seconds they are sorted into frequency order, with the frequency as the first entry, irrespective of where it first was located in the downloaded list.
Lists that you can easily apply pass frequencies to, apply filters to, and at the click of a button transfer any frequency to the radio, or scan any of the lists, whether they are the original, sorted or even filtered.
The ability to scan those lists, and apply a chosen 'delay' once a frequency is active.
The added ability to have unlimited 'memories' all stored on the P.C. so instantly available, and which can be backed up quickly and simply.
All those things using an easy interface, mouse controlled, and I must stress again, do that within seconds of first finding the list of frequencies on the Net.
Would you have believed it, or thought it was IMPOSSIBLE?
Even a month ago, that is exactly what I would have thought.
Well the impossible is here, and if doing the impossible does not convince anyone that eSPYonARD (and consequently the AR-DV1) are now the most unique and powerful combination around, then they
are very, very hard to please.
----------------------------------
There are some fine 'scanners' out there. Some do trunking. Some scan faster. Some have more memories, some have WiFi.
Great machines no doubt, but the only receiver with the power eSPYonARD has to offer is the AR-DV1.
The only receiver with the power of 'Q-DB' too, and when it comes to frequency acquisition and frequency management 'Q-DB' really does take the AR-DV1 to a totally new level whether for professional or hobby use (and that is just one of the functions the program has).
Do not take my word for it. Click the link above and read the example 'Q-DB' document. It is not long or complicated, mainly pictures taking you through the steps from bringing up a list of frequencies on the NET through to them being available to the radio.
The IMPOSSIBLE just became a REALITY
Well v.6.0006-004 with Q-DB (and more) was uploaded a few minutes ago.
Without a shadow of doubt you must read the instructions re. the 'Q' functions, and definitely read the
'Q-DB' example pdf' at the Web-Site. 'Q-DB' is SO powerful, and easy to use. The example file takes you through the few steps you need to understand it, in pictures.
http://pat3380.wix.com/ardv1
I have also added another bit of what seemed impossible coding regarding the speed the program can display in Scan and Search.
That speed is entirely hardware specific, and is governed by the efficiency of the serial communication between your individual P.C. and the AR-DV1.
Up till now I have had to keep that speed to the lowest one that should work on all P.C.'s. Not any more.
The very first time you run the latest eSPYonARD it will check for serial errors, and if found will adjust itself so that the timing is exactly correct for your P.C.
That means in a Search or Scan for a few seconds the display may contain errors. After a few seconds eSPYonARD will have found the correct timing needed, and will always use that in future.
That sounds all very easy when you read it quickly, and from the User's point of view it is automatic. Achieving it in code was quite a different matter, lol.
Nobody took me up on my invitation to comment on 'Q-DB' pre-release, so I guess even if you find it half as amazing a breakthrough for the scanner world as some believe it is, few will add anything to the thread (sigh).
Not to worry ... enjoy it folks. What seemed impossible has become a reality.
Well v.6.0006-004 with Q-DB (and more) was uploaded a few minutes ago.
Without a shadow of doubt you must read the instructions re. the 'Q' functions, and definitely read the
'Q-DB' example pdf' at the Web-Site. 'Q-DB' is SO powerful, and easy to use. The example file takes you through the few steps you need to understand it, in pictures.
http://pat3380.wix.com/ardv1
I have also added another bit of what seemed impossible coding regarding the speed the program can display in Scan and Search.
That speed is entirely hardware specific, and is governed by the efficiency of the serial communication between your individual P.C. and the AR-DV1.
Up till now I have had to keep that speed to the lowest one that should work on all P.C.'s. Not any more.
The very first time you run the latest eSPYonARD it will check for serial errors, and if found will adjust itself so that the timing is exactly correct for your P.C.
That means in a Search or Scan for a few seconds the display may contain errors. After a few seconds eSPYonARD will have found the correct timing needed, and will always use that in future.
That sounds all very easy when you read it quickly, and from the User's point of view it is automatic. Achieving it in code was quite a different matter, lol.
Nobody took me up on my invitation to comment on 'Q-DB' pre-release, so I guess even if you find it half as amazing a breakthrough for the scanner world as some believe it is, few will add anything to the thread (sigh).
Not to worry ... enjoy it folks. What seemed impossible has become a reality.
Grrrrr8 work for the ARDV1!
With this program and an ARDV1, frequency finding is now:
"Faster than a speeding Scanner,
More powerful than anything ever imagined,
Look up in the sky,
It's a bird,
Its a plane,
No, its eSPYonARD VI"
As the man says, AMAZING!
Even I am figuring out how to work mine now!
THANKS!
With this program and an ARDV1, frequency finding is now:
"Faster than a speeding Scanner,
More powerful than anything ever imagined,
Look up in the sky,
It's a bird,
Its a plane,
No, its eSPYonARD VI"
As the man says, AMAZING!
Even I am figuring out how to work mine now!
THANKS!
Thanks
Thanks to TaxiMom and Peter.
At the moment I just want people to try the latest eSPYonARD, and especially 'Q-DB'.
In my recent posts, 'pre-release', even now I look at the claims I made for 'Q-DB' and think many people must think them totally outrageous, and seemingly impossible.
Despite 'Q-DB' being just one of the many, many things eSPYonARD can do, and despite 'Q-DB' being so simple to use, it represents a giant leap forward in frequency acquisition and management.
Not just for the AR-DV1 (by association), but for all radio (scanner) enthusiasts.
Quickly and easily importing frequencies from almost anywhere, for immediate use.
It is all but unbelievable, even for me, and I should know it is real, if anybody does, lol.
Thanks to TaxiMom and Peter.
At the moment I just want people to try the latest eSPYonARD, and especially 'Q-DB'.
In my recent posts, 'pre-release', even now I look at the claims I made for 'Q-DB' and think many people must think them totally outrageous, and seemingly impossible.
Despite 'Q-DB' being just one of the many, many things eSPYonARD can do, and despite 'Q-DB' being so simple to use, it represents a giant leap forward in frequency acquisition and management.
Not just for the AR-DV1 (by association), but for all radio (scanner) enthusiasts.
Quickly and easily importing frequencies from almost anywhere, for immediate use.
It is all but unbelievable, even for me, and I should know it is real, if anybody does, lol.
MStep
Member
Congratulations Jeff......
My congratulations on your latest update, and a word of thanks for your perseverance with your wonderful program, eSYPonARD, for the AOR DV1 receiver.
We're are all able to now do some truly amazing things that we never expected with the DV1 receiver--- as happy as I was when I purchased my DV1 for stand-alone use, your program has expanded the breadth and depth of the radio's capabilities exponentially.
Keep up the great work!
My congratulations on your latest update, and a word of thanks for your perseverance with your wonderful program, eSYPonARD, for the AOR DV1 receiver.
We're are all able to now do some truly amazing things that we never expected with the DV1 receiver--- as happy as I was when I purchased my DV1 for stand-alone use, your program has expanded the breadth and depth of the radio's capabilities exponentially.
Keep up the great work!
G7HID
Member
Here is a screen capture of eSPYonARD running on my PC in Q-DB mode, on the left are the selectable lists showing the current list and on the right is the current list with the selected frequency highlighted.
The bottom two entries with "XPASS" are locked out during scanning, this was set by the "SET PASS" button..
Mike
The bottom two entries with "XPASS" are locked out during scanning, this was set by the "SET PASS" button..
Mike
Attachments
Is there anybody there?
First, my sincere thanks to the people who have commented re. eSPYonARD, on the new 'Q' functions, and 'Q-DB' in particular.
Yesterday I started work on an improved version of 'Q-DB' that allows users to store and select their frequency lists in folders. I thought that people would be likely to import or create lots of lists, and that would make things so much easier to keep them sorted.
This morning, after 9 months of solid graft on developing eSPYonARD, and coming up with something that, despite seeming impossible, raises the stakes re. scanning to a previously unimaginable level, I am seriously beginning to wonder if it is worth continuing to improve it?
Apart from all the amazing possibilities 'Q' has to offer, not the least being able to import frequencies from the Net, and have them ready to use in the AR-DV1 within seconds, and adding unlimited Memories to the radio, which has to be a tremendous breakthrough for scanner enthusiasts, I did think that it might generate more comments on this thread.
Heading towards 16000 views now on this thread alone, and just a handful of comments re 'Q-DB'.
Of course I realise a lot of readers might not have an AR-DV1, but they are scanner enthusiasts.
If you have tried 'Q-DB', intend to try it, or are just the slightest bit impressed by what it offers, then post something please.
Have I reached 'burn out' time, perhaps? At least it is likely without some more comments here to give me encouragement.
I am off to dine. Not wine and dine, no doubt some might think I have done enough 'whining' today, lol. So I am taking a break, how about 'giving me a break' and adding some constructive comments?
First, my sincere thanks to the people who have commented re. eSPYonARD, on the new 'Q' functions, and 'Q-DB' in particular.
Yesterday I started work on an improved version of 'Q-DB' that allows users to store and select their frequency lists in folders. I thought that people would be likely to import or create lots of lists, and that would make things so much easier to keep them sorted.
This morning, after 9 months of solid graft on developing eSPYonARD, and coming up with something that, despite seeming impossible, raises the stakes re. scanning to a previously unimaginable level, I am seriously beginning to wonder if it is worth continuing to improve it?
Apart from all the amazing possibilities 'Q' has to offer, not the least being able to import frequencies from the Net, and have them ready to use in the AR-DV1 within seconds, and adding unlimited Memories to the radio, which has to be a tremendous breakthrough for scanner enthusiasts, I did think that it might generate more comments on this thread.
Heading towards 16000 views now on this thread alone, and just a handful of comments re 'Q-DB'.
Of course I realise a lot of readers might not have an AR-DV1, but they are scanner enthusiasts.
If you have tried 'Q-DB', intend to try it, or are just the slightest bit impressed by what it offers, then post something please.
Have I reached 'burn out' time, perhaps? At least it is likely without some more comments here to give me encouragement.
I am off to dine. Not wine and dine, no doubt some might think I have done enough 'whining' today, lol. So I am taking a break, how about 'giving me a break' and adding some constructive comments?
G7HID
Member
Here is you chance guys, give your thoughts and ideas, what you would like to see, would buy it if it did xxx, what you like, what you don't like....
Mike
Mike
squelch
Jeff asked for ideas . . .
Not Q-DB, rather eSPYonARD itself.
Could an individual squelch level as well as squelch type be assigned to individual entries in a scanning list on the DV-1, for monitoring a mix of AM / FM / digital transmissions in one scan set?
Thanks again for the great programme!
Jeff asked for ideas . . .
Not Q-DB, rather eSPYonARD itself.
Could an individual squelch level as well as squelch type be assigned to individual entries in a scanning list on the DV-1, for monitoring a mix of AM / FM / digital transmissions in one scan set?
Thanks again for the great programme!
Assigning squelch
An interesting question.
In theory, yes. I have already thought about this. I had worked out in my head exactly how it could be done.
You say not Q-DB, but it would have to be Q-DB based.
After careful thought I decided not to pursue it. One of the many strengths of 'Q-DB' is the ability to import frequency lists in almost any format for immediate use with the radio, without modification.
Adding that facility would mean having to manually alter every line. Not such a problem if using a list you create yourself I realise, but the other problem would be the speed of the scan, which is all controlled by software and that means lots of operations.
Not only would every line have to be checked for the squelch level, but then the radio would have to be instructed to change the level, and not move on to the next entry until it was as chosen. That takes time, sending, checking, and updating the program and radio, and all things considered would slow the scan speed down to a crawl at best.
So this time not an impossible idea, but not practical. As with searching and scanning pre eSPYonARD and 'Q', it will still be a matter of trying to find a squelch level compromise.
Cheers
An interesting question.
In theory, yes. I have already thought about this. I had worked out in my head exactly how it could be done.
You say not Q-DB, but it would have to be Q-DB based.
After careful thought I decided not to pursue it. One of the many strengths of 'Q-DB' is the ability to import frequency lists in almost any format for immediate use with the radio, without modification.
Adding that facility would mean having to manually alter every line. Not such a problem if using a list you create yourself I realise, but the other problem would be the speed of the scan, which is all controlled by software and that means lots of operations.
Not only would every line have to be checked for the squelch level, but then the radio would have to be instructed to change the level, and not move on to the next entry until it was as chosen. That takes time, sending, checking, and updating the program and radio, and all things considered would slow the scan speed down to a crawl at best.
So this time not an impossible idea, but not practical. As with searching and scanning pre eSPYonARD and 'Q', it will still be a matter of trying to find a squelch level compromise.
Cheers
COMPARISONS
I have had a couple of emails pointing out that another program now states it lets you import any frequencies from the WEB.
As readers should be aware by now, I have never tried to be in competition, or made bad remarks about other programs. I am not about to start that now.
However I must point out that, other than the words of that claim, there is no comparison between that, and what 'Q-DB' has achieved.
Anyone has always been able to cut and paste a frequency they find on the Net.
'Q-DB' is a revolutionary step forward in frequency acquisition, for the whole scanner world, but you have to have an AR-DV1 to take advantage of it.
It allows you to import entire lists in one go, and often within seconds have them available for individual frequency selection, or scanning with the AR-DV1 there and then.
It does not matter what form the lists appear on the Net, as long as a line contains a frequency ANYWHERE within it (and/or a Mode).
Previously an almost impossible idea, and in itself revolutionary, but it does not stop there.
You can automatically sort those lists, add a filter to them, save or re-name them as the posted version stands now. Not just a list from the NET. In a simple Notepad file you can create your own lists, and even import 'csv' spreadsheets lists too, all for immediate use.
Editing any 'Q-DB' file is simple.
That also means the AR-DV1 has unlimited memory channel capabilities, and you can quickly make backups of them without involving the radio.
The new version which will be released soon also adds the ability to select and store your frequencies in sub-folders (for ease of selection), AND you can even select default Modes where an imported list does not contain a Mode in a line, or the list is 'mixed', and sometimes does show a mode, and in some lines it does not.
The default mode is selected from simple drop down list. No modification to you imported list is necessary.
Sometimes a list you find will be for a particular purpose, say Aircraft frequencies or D-STAR repeaters. In that case each line is unlikely to contain a mode.
That does not matter. If the list just shows Aircraft frequencies, with no mode, select 'AM' as the default and all frequencies selected or scanned in that list will automatically use 'AM' as the mode.
It is worth pointing out that 'Q-DB' is just one of many things eSPYonARD has achieved, and all the 'Q' functions are a minor revolution in themselves.
There has never been anything like the 'Q' functions available to anyone interested in scanning. Even describing them as 'revolutionary' is an under-statement.
If you do not believe that, download the Trial and see for yourself.
I have had a couple of emails pointing out that another program now states it lets you import any frequencies from the WEB.
As readers should be aware by now, I have never tried to be in competition, or made bad remarks about other programs. I am not about to start that now.
However I must point out that, other than the words of that claim, there is no comparison between that, and what 'Q-DB' has achieved.
Anyone has always been able to cut and paste a frequency they find on the Net.
'Q-DB' is a revolutionary step forward in frequency acquisition, for the whole scanner world, but you have to have an AR-DV1 to take advantage of it.
It allows you to import entire lists in one go, and often within seconds have them available for individual frequency selection, or scanning with the AR-DV1 there and then.
It does not matter what form the lists appear on the Net, as long as a line contains a frequency ANYWHERE within it (and/or a Mode).
Previously an almost impossible idea, and in itself revolutionary, but it does not stop there.
You can automatically sort those lists, add a filter to them, save or re-name them as the posted version stands now. Not just a list from the NET. In a simple Notepad file you can create your own lists, and even import 'csv' spreadsheets lists too, all for immediate use.
Editing any 'Q-DB' file is simple.
That also means the AR-DV1 has unlimited memory channel capabilities, and you can quickly make backups of them without involving the radio.
The new version which will be released soon also adds the ability to select and store your frequencies in sub-folders (for ease of selection), AND you can even select default Modes where an imported list does not contain a Mode in a line, or the list is 'mixed', and sometimes does show a mode, and in some lines it does not.
The default mode is selected from simple drop down list. No modification to you imported list is necessary.
Sometimes a list you find will be for a particular purpose, say Aircraft frequencies or D-STAR repeaters. In that case each line is unlikely to contain a mode.
That does not matter. If the list just shows Aircraft frequencies, with no mode, select 'AM' as the default and all frequencies selected or scanned in that list will automatically use 'AM' as the mode.
It is worth pointing out that 'Q-DB' is just one of many things eSPYonARD has achieved, and all the 'Q' functions are a minor revolution in themselves.
There has never been anything like the 'Q' functions available to anyone interested in scanning. Even describing them as 'revolutionary' is an under-statement.
If you do not believe that, download the Trial and see for yourself.
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