This is across the board sadly; 851-869 MHz is extremely congested in the central Florida market and I constantly see interference amongst the larger systems (by frequency count). It also doesn’t help that certain cruise ships that use Port Canaveral seem to now have external Omni antennas on their 850 MHz Capacity Plus shipboard systems.
Brevard County P25 (00A.92077)
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ecps92
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What Cruise Lines (Ships) are still running 800 trunks ?
Last known 800's were Disney and they abandoned the 800 on-board for the 457/467 bands over 14 yrs ago
Sounding like a few agencies are having intermittent encryption (garbled transmissions) being patched back to the EDACS system now that they are 100% P25. At the same moment on the SDS100 I am seeing ENC for those transmissions on the P25 system. I've been running both side by side for comparison and for a while only the P25 was showing sporadic encryption but it was in the clear on EDACs but that seems to have changed this week for the beachside agencies. End of an era for monitoring in Brevard....
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That happens alot more than you think. During band opening I've seen RIDs from all over trying to register onto my local TRS. But most of them got either DENY or REFUSED as shown in DSD+
My guess would be simulcast distortion if you're listening to their new system on a scanner other than a Uniden SDS100 or SDS200
It appears to me that at the very least, the beachside agencies have now moved over to the P25 system and are no longer on the EDACS system at all. I'm simultaneously monitoring both systems and detecting encrypted P25 traffic while the EDACS side is silent. Of course I can't decode the encrypted traffic but it's definitely present.
Here have been my observations so far over the last few days using DSD+ FastLane to confirm what I am witnessing on my SDS100...
Only one Encryption key used as has been mentioned before: KID 044D (1101) with AlgID 84 (AES-256).
I had Grok analyze a few days worth of VC and CC logs on the South Simulcast
Only one Encryption key used as has been mentioned before: KID 044D (1101) with AlgID 84 (AES-256).
I had Grok analyze a few days worth of VC and CC logs on the South Simulcast
Group ID | Group Description | Clear Calls | Enc Calls | Total Calls | % Encrypted |
139 | [BCSO 3 South] 3 South | 69 | 31 | 100 | 31.00% |
164 | [BC EOC] EOC | 20 | 0 | 20 | 0.00% |
194 | [BC Air Ops 2] Air Ops 2 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 100.00% |
393 | [BCFR Dispatch 1] Dispatch 1 District 20 | 30 | 0 | 30 | 0.00% |
394 | [BCFR Dispatch 2] Dispatch 2 District 40 | 30 | 0 | 30 | 0.00% |
395 | [BCFR Dispatch 3] Dispatch 3 District 60 | 25 | 0 | 25 | 0.00% |
399 | [BCFR Paging 80] Paging 80 | 5 | 0 | 5 | 0.00% |
407 | [BCFR Dispatch 4] Dispatch 4 District 80 | 26 | 5 | 31 | 16.13% |
435 | [BCFR Tac 57] TAC 57 Indialantic FD | 0 | 6 | 6 | 100.00% |
442 | [IH Beach Tac 56] Tac 56 Fire Department | 14 | 0 | 14 | 0.00% |
487 | [BCFR Admin] Administration | 20 | 0 | 20 | 0.00% |
685 | [BC Admin 2] Administration 2 | 20 | 0 | 20 | 0.00% |
777 | [Rck PD Patrol] Police Road Patrol | 10 | 30 | 40 | 75.00% |
929 | [TitusPD Ch 1] Police Ch 1 | 43 | 22 | 65 | 33.85% |
1034 | [Mel PD Disp] Police Primary | 22 | 0 | 22 | 0.00% |
1065 | [Mel FD Disp] Fire Primary | 83 | 104 | 187 | 55.61% |
1066 | [Mel FD Tac 71] Fire Tactical 71 | 0 | 2 | 2 | 100.00% |
1289 | [IH Beach PD] Police Dispatch | 79 | 104 | 183 | 56.83% |
1290 | [Satellite Bch PD] Police Dispatch | 31 | 28 | 59 | 47.46% |
1291 | [Bch PD 3 Ind] Police Dispatch | 167 | 186 | 353 | 52.69% |
1292 | Beach PD4 | 9 | 0 | 9 | 0.00% |
1449 | [Cocoa FD Primary] Fire Dispatch | 13 | 0 | 13 | 0.00% |
1561 | [CB PD Disp] Police Dispatch Primary | 0 | 371 | 371 | 100.00% |
Ok I spent more time and did better analysis in PowerShell based on CC and VC Event Logs from 8/1 to the time of this post. My last post exceeded what Grok could interpret so it was very incomplete.
Encryption % is not great for those of us who have monitored Brevard for years on the EDACs system. There could still be errors in my analysis of the logs but I cleaned this up quite a bit today.
Encryption % is not great for those of us who have monitored Brevard for years on the EDACs system. There could still be errors in my analysis of the logs but I cleaned this up quite a bit today.
| Group ID | Group Description | Clear Calls | Enc Calls | Total Calls | % Encrypted |
137 | [BCSO 1 North] 1 North | 128 | 0 | 128 | 0% |
138 | [BCSO 2 East] 2 East | 4 | 0 | 4 | 0% |
139 | [BCSO 3 South] 3 South | 10794 | 389 | 11183 | 3.48% |
140 | [BCSO TTY] Teletype Brevard Sheriff | 138 | 23 | 161 | 14.29% |
153 | [BCSO NOps] North Operations | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0% |
155 | [BCSO SOps] South Operations | 4 | 3 | 7 | 42.86% |
161 | [BCSO County Wide] Countywide | 25 | 4 | 29 | 13.79% |
190 | 3 | 357 | 360 | 99.17% | |
193 | BC Air Ops 1 | 0 | 7 | 7 | 100% |
194 | BC Air Ops 2 | 0 | 138 | 138 | 100% |
201 | [BCSO Alert 1] Alert 1 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0% |
217 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0% | |
233 | [BCSO 4 West] 4 West | 144 | 0 | 144 | 0% |
236 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0% | |
259 | [West MLB PD] Police Dispatch | 30 | 0 | 30 | 0% |
395 | [BCFR Dispatch 3] Dispatch 3 District 60 | 1366 | 0 | 1366 | 0% |
399 | [BCFR Paging 80] Paging 80 | 87 | 6 | 93 | 6.45% |
407 | [BCFR Dispatch 4] Dispatch 4 District 80 | 2992 | 367 | 3359 | 10.93% |
409 | [BCFR Tac 1] TAC 1 | 24 | 10 | 34 | 29.41% |
412 | [BC Lifegrd C] Lifeguards Central | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0% |
426 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 100% | |
428 | [BCFR Tac 8] TAC 8 BCFRCoastal | 0 | 1 | 1 | 100% |
435 | [BCFR Tac 57] TAC 57 Indialantic FD | 81 | 72 | 153 | 47.06% |
437 | [BCFR Tac 58] TAC 58 Melbourne Beach VFD | 10 | 16 | 26 | 61.54% |
441 | [Tac 55 Sat Bch] Tac 55 Fire Department | 192 | 220 | 412 | 53.40% |
442 | [IH Beach Tac 56] Tac 56 Fire Department | 50 | 70 | 120 | 58.33% |
451 | [Air Ops Medical] Air Ops Medical | 0 | 1 | 1 | 100% |
467 | [BCFR Paging 60] Paging 60 | 5 | 0 | 5 | 0% |
625 | [EMStoHRMC] Holmes Regional Medical Center | 8 | 0 | 8 | 0% |
627 | [EMS to PMC] Parrish Medical Center | 76 | 0 | 76 | 0% |
770 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0% | |
777 | [Rck PD Patrol] Police Road Patrol | 29 | 2890 | 2919 | 99.01% |
907 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 100% | |
929 | [TitusPD Ch 1] Police Ch 1 | 23 | 2696 | 2719 | 99.15% |
930 | [TitusPD Ch 2] Police Ch 2 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 100% |
931 | [TitusPD Tele] Police Teletype | 2 | 323 | 325 | 99.38% |
1033 | [Mel PD Tele] Police Teletype | 4 | 0 | 4 | 0% |
1034 | [Mel PD Disp] Police Primary | 6677 | 63 | 6740 | 0.93% |
1036 | [Mel PD SWAT] SWAT | 0 | 2 | 2 | 100% |
1037 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0% | |
1057 | 0 | 3 | 3 | 100% | |
1061 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 100% | |
1065 | [Mel FD Disp] Fire Primary | 52 | 3957 | 4009 | 98.70% |
1066 | [Mel FD Tac 71] Fire Tactical 71 | 0 | 125 | 125 | 100% |
1075 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 100% | |
1161 | [PBPAT1] Police Patrol 1 North | 1073 | 0 | 1073 | 0% |
1162 | [PBPAT2] Police Patrol 2 South | 10 | 0 | 10 | 0% |
1202 | [PB Fire Tac 91] Palm Bay Fire Tac 91 | 35 | 24 | 59 | 40.68% |
1203 | [PB FD Tac 92] Fire Tactical 92 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 100% |
1204 | [PB FD Training] Fire Training | 0 | 1 | 1 | 100% |
1289 | [IH Beach PD] Police Dispatch | 15 | 3563 | 3578 | 99.58% |
1290 | [Satellite Bch PD] Police Dispatch | 72 | 1302 | 1374 | 94.76% |
1291 | [Bch PD 3 Ind] Police Dispatch | 38 | 2482 | 2520 | 98.49% |
1292 | Police Ch. 4 Beachside Police Depts (All) - Intercity | 8 | 9 | 17 | 52.94% |
1297 | [Bch PD 5 IHB] Police Ch 5 Indian Harbour Tactical | 0 | 3 | 3 | 100% |
1298 | [Bch PD 6 Sat] Police Ch 6 Satellite Beach Tactical | 0 | 13 | 13 | 100% |
1300 | 0 | 2 | 2 | 100% | |
1306 | Fire Ch. 2 Satellite Beach | 0 | 4 | 4 | 100% |
1449 | [Cocoa FD Primary] Fire Dispatch | 15 | 68 | 83 | 81.93% |
1545 | [CB FD Primary] Fire Dispatch | 0 | 200 | 200 | 100% |
1546 | [CB FD Tac 50] Fire Tactical 50 | 0 | 11 | 11 | 100% |
1548 | CB FD SupervFire Supervisors | 1 | 128 | 129 | 99.22% |
1561 | [CB PD Disp] Police Dispatch Primary | 12 | 1331 | 1343 | 99.11% |
1562 | [CB PD Tac 1] Police Tactical 1 | 3 | 252 | 255 | 98.82% |
1565 | CB PD TelePolice Teletype | 0 | 3 | 3 | 100% |
trooper890
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Sign of the times, sad to see the last vestiges of analog TRS in Florida go away. Brevard was one of the very first to go trunked, likely will be all gone by year's end and not much left to hear.
As far as I know it is the same. I will verify later
I had the same issue this morning with the Palm Bay tower. I ended up re-downloading the latest DB and dumping that on my scanner - not sure if that was the fix or if they changed something while my scanner was down, but, you weren't alone.
Melbourne has almost fully completed it's transition.Looks like the county talkgroups are now the last ones starting to hit the chopping block. Won't be much longer before full obfuscation
Not that they needed to encrypt everything to accomplish that. The P25 intelligibility was pretty much doing a good job of that single-handedly.
Not that they needed to encrypt everything to accomplish that. The P25 intelligibility was pretty much doing a good job of that single-handedly.
Yeah definitely almost all gone... I agree the P25 over both the SDS100 and DSDPLus is not great... Only positive improvement I have heard was STAR going up and it didn't sounds like a helicopter going through a carwash, had much better radio / noise canceling.
I am noticing 50% encryption on some channels dispatch side unencrypted but we will see if that persists. I notice that on the Space Force system as well so could be by design I guess we will see.
Latest update as of this morning from South Simulcast this has ~20 days worth of data and added the last 24hr percent. I filtered out TGs with less than 10 calls so far.
I am noticing 50% encryption on some channels dispatch side unencrypted but we will see if that persists. I notice that on the Space Force system as well so could be by design I guess we will see.
Latest update as of this morning from South Simulcast this has ~20 days worth of data and added the last 24hr percent. I filtered out TGs with less than 10 calls so far.
| Group ID | Group Description | Clear Calls | Enc Calls | Total Calls | % Encrypted | % Encrypted Last 24h |
137 | [BCSO 1 North] 1 North | 8343 | 458 | 8801 | 5.20% | 12.80% |
138 | [BCSO 2 East] 2 East | 11123 | 402 | 11525 | 3.49% | 17.07% |
139 | [BCSO 3 South] 3 South | 39499 | 2027 | 41526 | 4.88% | 15.76% |
140 | [BCSO TTY] Teletype Brevard Sheriff | 249 | 93 | 342 | 27.19% | 38.16% |
143 | [BCSO VieraCt] Viera Courthouse Brevard Sheriff | 29 | 1296 | 1325 | 97.81% | 98.93% |
155 | [BCSO SOps] South Operations | 18 | 13 | 31 | 41.94% | 44.44% |
161 | [BCSO County Wide] Countywide | 889 | 62 | 951 | 6.52% | 100% |
190 | 10 | 1378 | 1388 | 99.28% | 94.29% | |
193 | 0 | 35 | 35 | 100% | ||
194 | [BC Air Ops 2] Air Ops 2 | 2 | 802 | 804 | 99.75% | 100% |
196 | 2 | 22 | 24 | 91.67% | 71.43% | |
201 | [BCSO Alert 1] Alert 1 | 68 | 7 | 75 | 9.33% | |
204 | [BCSO Alert 4] Alert 4 | 66 | 6 | 72 | 8.33% | |
206 | [BCSO Warrant] Warrants | 0 | 24 | 24 | 100% | 100% |
233 | [BCSO 4 West] 4 West | 13421 | 1438 | 14859 | 9.68% | 40.78% |
259 | [West MLB PD] Police Dispatch | 2663 | 5 | 2668 | 0.19% | 0% |
395 | [BCFR Dispatch 3] Dispatch 3 District 60 | 3248 | 18 | 3266 | 0.55% | |
399 | [BCFR Paging 80] Paging 80 | 872 | 34 | 906 | 3.75% | 6.82% |
407 | [BCFR Dispatch 4] Dispatch 4 District 80 | 11435 | 2691 | 14126 | 19.05% | 23.86% |
409 | [BCFR Tac 1] TAC 1 | 400 | 63 | 463 | 13.61% | 12.73% |
435 | [BCFR Tac 57] TAC 57 Indialantic FD | 239 | 215 | 454 | 47.36% | 45.10% |
437 | [BCFR Tac 58] TAC 58 Melbourne Beach VFD | 74 | 76 | 150 | 50.67% | 50% |
441 | [Tac 55 Sat Bch] Tac 55 Fire Department | 718 | 815 | 1533 | 53.16% | 54.39% |
442 | [IH Beach Tac 56] Tac 56 Fire Department | 226 | 362 | 588 | 61.56% | 60.53% |
451 | [Air Ops Medical] Air Ops Medical | 38 | 16 | 54 | 29.63% | |
466 | [BCFR Paging 40] Paging 40 | 7 | 5 | 12 | 41.67% | 44.44% |
593 | 0 | 11 | 11 | 100% | ||
625 | [EMStoHRMC] Holmes Regional Medical Center | 12 | 0 | 12 | 0% | |
627 | [EMS to PMC] Parrish Medical Center | 85 | 0 | 85 | 0% | 0% |
765 | 21 | 0 | 21 | 0% | ||
777 | [Rck PD Patrol] Police Road Patrol | 70 | 11032 | 11102 | 99.37% | 99.15% |
925 | [TitusFD Primary] Fire Dispatch | 2 | 70 | 72 | 97.22% | 66.67% |
929 | [TitusPD Ch 1] Police Ch 1 | 100 | 12506 | 12606 | 99.21% | 98.57% |
930 | [TitusPD Ch 2] Police Ch 2 | 0 | 11 | 11 | 100% | 100% |
931 | [TitusPD Tele] Police Teletype | 5 | 756 | 761 | 99.34% | |
1033 | [Mel PD Tele] Police Teletype | 4214 | 3553 | 7767 | 45.74% | 46.24% |
1034 | [Mel PD Disp] Police Primary | 26889 | 8964 | 35853 | 25% | 49.33% |
1035 | [Mel PD TA] Police TalkAround | 21 | 57 | 78 | 73.08% | 77.78% |
1036 | [Mel PD SWAT] SWAT | 12 | 14 | 26 | 53.85% | |
1039 | 14 | 11 | 25 | 44% | ||
1043 | 111 | 493 | 604 | 81.62% | 60% | |
1065 | [Mel FD Disp] Fire Primary | 133 | 14211 | 14344 | 99.07% | 99.50% |
1066 | [Mel FD Tac 71] Fire Tactical 71 | 24 | 694 | 718 | 96.66% | |
1079 | 0 | 64 | 64 | 100% | ||
1161 | [PBPAT1] Police Patrol 1 North | 12601 | 24687 | 37288 | 66.21% | 99.65% |
1162 | [PBPAT2] Police Patrol 2 South | 9991 | 22437 | 32428 | 69.19% | 99.54% |
1163 | 16 | 95 | 111 | 85.59% | 100% | |
1164 | [PBTELE] Police Teletype | 3971 | 8452 | 12423 | 68.04% | 99.16% |
1170 | 2 | 222 | 224 | 99.11% | ||
1180 | [PBLOG] Police LOG | 840 | 1515 | 2355 | 64.33% | 100% |
1186 | [PBTACX] Police Tactical X | 98 | 1071 | 1169 | 91.62% | 97.22% |
1202 | [PB Fire Tac 91] Palm Bay Fire Tac 91 | 268 | 495 | 763 | 64.88% | 61.84% |
1203 | [PB FD Tac 92] Fire Tactical 92 | 22 | 51 | 73 | 69.86% | 53.19% |
1289 | [IH Beach PD] Police Dispatch | 68 | 12385 | 12453 | 99.45% | 99.06% |
1290 | [Satellite Bch PD] Police Dispatch | 96 | 5610 | 5706 | 98.32% | 99.15% |
1291 | [Bch PD 3 Ind] Police Dispatch | 71 | 8576 | 8647 | 99.18% | 99.38% |
1292 | 21 | 31 | 52 | 59.62% | ||
1298 | [Bch PD 6 Sat] Police Ch 6 Satellite Beach Tactical | 2 | 114 | 116 | 98.28% | |
1306 | 0 | 13 | 13 | 100% | ||
1314 | 2 | 21 | 23 | 91.30% | ||
1425 | [Cocoa PD Dispatc] Police Dispatch | 35 | 0 | 35 | 0% | 0% |
1449 | [Cocoa FD Primary] Fire Dispatch | 15 | 141 | 156 | 90.38% | |
1545 | [CB FD Primary] Fire Dispatch | 9 | 693 | 702 | 98.72% | 92.59% |
1546 | [CB FD Tac 50] Fire Tactical 50 | 0 | 21 | 21 | 100% | 100% |
1548 | 2 | 128 | 130 | 98.46% | ||
1561 | [CB PD Disp] Police Dispatch Primary | 46 | 6371 | 6417 | 99.28% | 98.51% |
1562 | [CB PD Tac 1] Police Tactical 1 | 5 | 681 | 686 | 99.27% | 100% |
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