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BT/Wi-Fi programming?

wd8chl

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So, I see people talk about programming over bluetooth w/NX's, wi-fi with the VP8K. I can't find any info on how to do that. Anyone got info on that? Sure would save a lot of time when you've got 20, 50, 100 radios to do...
TIA.
 

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NX Options. Kwd5002BT, If it's not enabled, need to be purchased.

Viking, called OTIP, again an option, needs to be purchased.
 

wd8chl

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ugh...so it looks like there's no value in having wi-fi enabled on a 8000 without that option also...
 

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wi-fi comes free, OTIP is $235 LIST PRICE, BORADBAND DATA SERVICE/VPN $120 LIST.
 

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Josh, I will get with you on that, GOOD TO KNOW, as I have not gotten my VP8k yet, but added that to my mental notes.
 

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wi-fi comes free, OTIP is $235 LIST PRICE, BORADBAND DATA SERVICE/VPN $120 LIST.
For VP8K: You don't need broadband data service/vpn unless you are using armada server and have a data registration server. If you don't have either there's likely little utility in adding Broadband Data Services/VPN (though both features seem pretty reasonably priced @ list). You'd also need a server to run the VPN that has access to the same LAN segment as the DRS/Armada Server. It's a really amazing feature once it's all pieced together. It just works.
 

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You don't. They don't do programming over BT. Only WIFI. Must have OTIP feature (Over the Internet Programming) on the radio side to do it IIRC.
 

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You don't. They don't do programming over BT. Only WIFI. Must have OTIP feature (Over the Internet Programming) on the radio side to do it IIRC.
Is there a guide on how to setup OTIP? I tried setting up the server, but it never really worked or launched.
 

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Is there a guide on how to setup OTIP? I tried setting up the server, but it never really worked or launched.

You have to be on the same layer 2 network for armada to reach out to the radio. OTIP while it suggests "over the internet" is really over the local network. Make sure you go in and check the box in Armada settings to allow OTIP/Bluetooth. Of course, now that I write this it sent me down a rabbit hole reading the help file only to learn I'm wrong and some radios allow Bluetooh programming.

The manuals/guides that come with the software are pretty good and when all else fails the EFJ support is fantastic. If you are hitting roadblocks reach out to them. They are very good and welcoming unlike a lot of other vendors.
 

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You have to be on the same layer 2 network for armada to reach out to the radio. OTIP while it suggests "over the internet" is really over the local network. Make sure you go in and check the box in Armada settings to allow OTIP/Bluetooth. Of course, now that I write this it sent me down a rabbit hole reading the help file only to learn I'm wrong and some radios allow Bluetooh programming.

The manuals/guides that come with the software are pretty good and when all else fails the EFJ support is fantastic. If you are hitting roadblocks reach out to them. They are very good and welcoming unlike a lot of other vendors.
So after enabling OTIP in Armada and having it as a feature in the radio, it just works? No other setup required?
 

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Yup! Make sure the radio is on the same wifi network and you are good to go. It just works.

Similar to other radio vendors you will find that they use Multicast DNS as a way for the computer to find the radio. This means you have to ensure that your network is setup to properly handle MDNS. Most typically do - but if you have an enterprise network or are on the more professional stuff you could unintentionally block these packets.

The nice thing about the VP8K is you can add any WIFI - at any time - from the keypad. Including typing in the WPA credentials. You couple this with Broadband Data Feature plus armada server and a VPN endpoint..... You will be cooking with gas. It's an amazing solution to a problem that is very well put together.
 
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