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AR-DV1 Butel Software
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MStep
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What version of Windows are you using? Can you list all the choices you have under tools, and what Build of the Butel program are you using? It was there in my Build 1, but disappeared sometime between Build 2 and Build 4.
MStep
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P.S. I moved this question out of my pvt mail and onto the forums so that all can benefit: The question:
Yes, you may find that you have to "fine tune" the radio to get it to do what you want it to do. There are several parameters which do not yet appear in the Butel program, one of which is the squelch setting and the type of squelch being deployed. There are (at least) three different types of squelch in the DV1--- Level, Noise and Voice. Another parameter which could affect reception are the noise limiter settings, which are also not yet available in the Butel program.
Perhaps you could be more specific when you say that you are "not pleased with the response of the radio". Remember, we are dealing with a highly specialized communications receiver, and not a traditional scanner. This means that the "scan" function is not going to be as powerful or as flexible as on a regular scanner. The scan and search functions do have some use, but perhaps not what most people would expect.
As time goes on, I feel certain that Gommet at Butel will add more and more features to the software so that more of the radio's parameters can be written to and read from the radio.
Until I repurchase my own DV1, I am trying to borrow a friends who lives in my area so that I can conduct more of my own tests on the receiver. But perhaps if you can explain what you mean by "response" of the radio, we can come up with some solution.
Yes, you may find that you have to "fine tune" the radio to get it to do what you want it to do. There are several parameters which do not yet appear in the Butel program, one of which is the squelch setting and the type of squelch being deployed. There are (at least) three different types of squelch in the DV1--- Level, Noise and Voice. Another parameter which could affect reception are the noise limiter settings, which are also not yet available in the Butel program.
Perhaps you could be more specific when you say that you are "not pleased with the response of the radio". Remember, we are dealing with a highly specialized communications receiver, and not a traditional scanner. This means that the "scan" function is not going to be as powerful or as flexible as on a regular scanner. The scan and search functions do have some use, but perhaps not what most people would expect.
As time goes on, I feel certain that Gommet at Butel will add more and more features to the software so that more of the radio's parameters can be written to and read from the radio.
Until I repurchase my own DV1, I am trying to borrow a friends who lives in my area so that I can conduct more of my own tests on the receiver. But perhaps if you can explain what you mean by "response" of the radio, we can come up with some solution.
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I am running Windows 7.Butel Version .09 Build 4
Tools:
Open Calculator
DEC HEX Converter
Open Note Pad
RadioReference Frequency Search
Tools:
Open Calculator
DEC HEX Converter
Open Note Pad
RadioReference Frequency Search
I hope to spend more time with the radio today if time allows.
One thing I encountered yesterday is I have my 996P2 on next desk next to the DV1,DV1 connected to outside discone antenna.Had the P2 connected to stock antenna.P2 received analog signal,DV1 scanned through it.
One thing I encountered yesterday is I have my 996P2 on next desk next to the DV1,DV1 connected to outside discone antenna.Had the P2 connected to stock antenna.P2 received analog signal,DV1 scanned through it.
MStep
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Thanks---- the Radio Reference Frequency Search is not showing up in Build 4 on my Windows 8.1 or Windows 10 computers--- I will have to try it with Windows 7 to see if that works out. Very interesting.
MStep
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Make sure you are running with the latest version of the firmware for the radio. I recall when I had the DV1 that it was a little "finicky" with its scanning. What seemed to work for me was not to mix squelch "types" in the same scan sequence. I also kept all my digital channels in one scan bank and all my analog in another, and then only scanned when necessary for the type of operation that I was trying to accomplish.
Hopefully future firmware upgrades will cure various scanning anomalies, but it's always important to keep in mind that this is not a true scanner, but a highly specialized communications receiver with some cursory search and scan functions.
I am running 1601B. I will try what you were doing and see if it improves performance. Thanks
MStep
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The mystery of the missing item selection under the Tools tab on the program has been solved. One would expect that it would be there but not functional until you sign into the RR database function under the Internet tab.
Yet the selection is not even on the menu under Tools until you first sign into RR. That caused me several weeks of confusion--- I sent a message to Gommert at Butel just to alert him that I had solved the problem.
As nobody replied to your message
I noticed that too. There is a blank field now at the bottom of the page where that picture used to be. I of course have no idea whether Butel intends to make a 'virtual' tuner though, but they may now that another program exists which does. There is a thread on the Forum if you want to look at it.
Butel have created some very useful software for a lot of radios.
I noticed that too. There is a blank field now at the bottom of the page where that picture used to be. I of course have no idea whether Butel intends to make a 'virtual' tuner though, but they may now that another program exists which does. There is a thread on the Forum if you want to look at it.
Butel have created some very useful software for a lot of radios.
Radiowavesuk
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Just noticed that on the BuTel ARC DV1 download page that the virtual' tuner Picture is showing again looks like this will be part of a future upgrade after all.
Dave
Dave
No surprise there
Amazing what a bit of competition will do.
It was only a matter of time before they found about the other program that controls almost all the functions of the AR-DV1 in real time, and also gives control over entering / manipulating Memory Channels etc. The display on that CAT program even looks like the one on the Receiver too.
A lot of competition I think lol, but there again I would. If anyone has not looked at it, there is a discussion regarding it on the Forum.
Amazing what a bit of competition will do.
It was only a matter of time before they found about the other program that controls almost all the functions of the AR-DV1 in real time, and also gives control over entering / manipulating Memory Channels etc. The display on that CAT program even looks like the one on the Receiver too.
A lot of competition I think lol, but there again I would. If anyone has not looked at it, there is a discussion regarding it on the Forum.
MStep
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My understanding is that computer control with the Butel software was going to be part of a more "advanced" feature set of their current software, and that it would be offered at an additional cost. We will have to wait and see.
In the meantime, I would encourage as many folks here to try out marlbrook's offering to see how it handles with the DV1, and to help in the troubleshooting and debugging phase of the beta testing.
It's great to see that software packages are being developed for the DV1.
In the meantime, I would encourage as many folks here to try out marlbrook's offering to see how it handles with the DV1, and to help in the troubleshooting and debugging phase of the beta testing.
It's great to see that software packages are being developed for the DV1.
40% discount for butel ar-dv1 software owners
See
http://forums.radioreference.com/ao...c-computer-control-new-s-w-2.html#post2535425
See
http://forums.radioreference.com/ao...c-computer-control-new-s-w-2.html#post2535425
Thanks for all your answers marlbrook, makes sense.
What is your name, by the way?
I see Butel has; Latest version is now 0.91 build 1 (Feb 22 2016)
I do not see release notes and have not tried it yet.
Keith
What is your name, by the way?
I see Butel has; Latest version is now 0.91 build 1 (Feb 22 2016)
I do not see release notes and have not tried it yet.
Keith
The interesting thing is that the picture at the bottom of the page states:-
"Preliminary screenshot of Virtual control in ARC DV1 PRO"
The thing to spot is the 'PRO' reference. The software people have downloaded / purchased is named 'Basic', so the comment above seems pretty accurate, it is likely to cost more money. Most of their PRO packages seem to be at least 100 euros or their about.
IF they ever get the computer control running it will be a 'paid' upgrade.
I don't blame them for that, as I know just how much work there is especially as the AR-DV1's firmware is very difficult to work with, predict even, under computer control. Took me a long time to tame the beast lol.
As I have said often on here, I would never 'knock' their products.
I suppose the main difference is they have lots of irons in the fire, and I have the time and commitment to concentrate just on my AR-DV1 CAT program, 7 days a week.
I also think it is interesting, comparing their picture with mine, that my CAT program actually looks like the AR-DV1 display, with most things showing just as it does.
To be honest I think my approach to entering / manipulating / moving Memory Channel data is so easy and straight forward, it would be very hard to beat, especially as you can see all the channel details (including empty ones) on the right hand side of the window, and enter / change the parameters with simple button clicks on the left hand side, with real time computer control too.
AOR are being very helpful, and it was nice to see they included a link to my website / software on their own web page.
With my 40% cash back offer for existing BUTEL owners, if it was me, I would go for having both programs, but that is just my opinion.
Cheers, Pat
Please explain 40
I am sorry my computer froze on me in the middle of my typing.Looks very interesting. I am getting ready to give it a test run.
MStep
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It's great that both marlbrook and butel give us the opportunity to test drive their software packages before purchase. What's also nice is that marlbrook is actually here online on the forums and able to give step by step advice to users who may have issues setting up his program.
I know that he has also been very responsive to emails and has given a wealth of information, not only about his program, but also about some of the firmware quirks of the DV1 that he faced while developing his software. Hopefully, marlbrook's work will also help AOR work out some of the kinks in future firmware upgrades that they do.
I expect to have my DV1 back by the end of this week. I've downloaded the latest version of the butel package, but I am especially looking forward to getting marlbrook's software up and running. The more folks here we have experimenting with the trial package, the better and better the software will get,and we'll all benefit from the work that's been done. The DV1 is a real gem of a radio, but it's still an "unfinished work"--- these software packages really help in getting a handle on the operation of the radio.
I know that he has also been very responsive to emails and has given a wealth of information, not only about his program, but also about some of the firmware quirks of the DV1 that he faced while developing his software. Hopefully, marlbrook's work will also help AOR work out some of the kinks in future firmware upgrades that they do.
I expect to have my DV1 back by the end of this week. I've downloaded the latest version of the butel package, but I am especially looking forward to getting marlbrook's software up and running. The more folks here we have experimenting with the trial package, the better and better the software will get,and we'll all benefit from the work that's been done. The DV1 is a real gem of a radio, but it's still an "unfinished work"--- these software packages really help in getting a handle on the operation of the radio.
MStep
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BUTEL Version 0.91 Build 001 Now Available
The Butel program continues to evolve nicely, adding a few new fields in the BANK portion of the program, including settings for "Squelch" and "Voice Squelch". I'm happy to see that Gommert is continuing his work with the program at a slow, but steady pace.
There might have been one or two more changes to the program that I have not explored yet. One of the things I have not been able to find, either in the program or on the Butel website, is information outlining changes that have been made from version to version. If anyone knows where that information can be found, please pass it along.
I expect to have my radio back again by the weekend so that I can take a look at some of the new features. Until then, has anyone tried the newest version, and are there any reports about its operation?
The Butel program continues to evolve nicely, adding a few new fields in the BANK portion of the program, including settings for "Squelch" and "Voice Squelch". I'm happy to see that Gommert is continuing his work with the program at a slow, but steady pace.
There might have been one or two more changes to the program that I have not explored yet. One of the things I have not been able to find, either in the program or on the Butel website, is information outlining changes that have been made from version to version. If anyone knows where that information can be found, please pass it along.
I expect to have my radio back again by the weekend so that I can take a look at some of the new features. Until then, has anyone tried the newest version, and are there any reports about its operation?
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