Centre County P25 Trunking Control Channel Traffic

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So can we assume 213 might be a law enforcement channel since radios were LAW id's?

That would be my assumption since the radio ID's seem to be organized like this:

102-109: Centre County Dispatch Consoles
203-209: Penn State University Dispatch Consoles
2xxxx: Fire radios
3xxxx: EMS Radios
4xxxx: PD/Probation Radios
5xxxx: County Services Radios (Sanitation, PW, Coroner, etc.)

Radios are typically limited to channels based on department (i.e. PD doesn't have access to fire channels and vice versa), I've never seen a 4xxxx radio on any channel besides PD and Interop channels.
 

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Not sure any talkgroups were added.

I misphrased that and that is my bad. What I meant by new is a TG that isn't in the database. Today's calls on that TG weren't too helpful, they were attempting to take lunch orders today over the radio.
 

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That would be my assumption since the radio ID's seem to be organized like this:

102-109: Centre County Dispatch Consoles
203-209: Penn State University Dispatch Consoles
2xxxx: Fire radios
3xxxx: EMS Radios
4xxxx: PD/Probation Radios
5xxxx: County Services Radios (Sanitation, PW, Coroner, etc.)

Radios are typically limited to channels based on department (i.e. PD doesn't have access to fire channels and vice versa), I've never seen a 4xxxx radio on any channel besides PD and Interop channels.

Almost correct.

101-109: Centre County 911 Consoles 1-9
201-209: PSU PD Consoles

PD does have access to Fire/EMS TGs just rarely used.
EMS/Fire does scan PD TGs per department. So if EMS or FD has municipal PD in their coverage area, their dispatch channels are in their radios.
 

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Almost correct.

101-109: Centre County 911 Consoles 1-9
201-209: PSU PD Consoles

PD does have access to Fire/EMS TGs just rarely used.
EMS/Fire does scan PD TGs per department. So if EMS or FD has municipal PD in their coverage area, their dispatch channels are in their radios.

I didn't know that, very interesting!
 

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Any talkgroups identified?

Not that I can put a name or identity to. Right now I'm studying TG 213 which I mentioned earlier and then TG 255. TG 255 is apparently linked to the "BLANK" channels on radios, and that makes no sense to me as to why that TG exists. I have two conventional frequencies that the county uses on repeaters as a failsoft, I can post those if there's interest in getting them added to the DB. The repeaters are active, they send morse code out every half-hour or so.
 

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I have a hunch that TG 215 is related to the Fish and Boat Commision. I've heard from Bald Eagle units as well as Black Moshannon units (both are state parks in the county). I've read that PFBC usually has radios on the local systems in their respective coverage areas. that's a PFBC TG?
 

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Not that I can put a name or identity to. Right now I'm studying TG 213 which I mentioned earlier and then TG 255. TG 255 is apparently linked to the "BLANK" channels on radios, and that makes no sense to me as to why that TG exists. I have two conventional frequencies that the county uses on repeaters as a failsoft, I can post those if there's interest in getting them added to the DB. The repeaters are active, they send morse code out every half-hour or so.
Blank/255 (OFF hex) is a place holder for portables. Part of templates that are created. I'm not agreeing with the way they laid all their radios out but instead of putting off-system TGs in the blank spots, it allows the radio to stay on-system if accidentally switched to it while turning the radio.

The repeater frequencies are in the apparatus. They're not online all the time.
 

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Black Moshannon 5 heard on traffic stop near Boat Launch 4 on TG 213. He confirmed vehicle registration with the county. I'm fairly certain this is either PFBC or PGC. I think it's most likely PFBC because PGC is now on STARNet for most operations.
 
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Black Moshannon 5 heard on traffic stop near Boat Launch 4 on TG 213. He confirmed vehicle registration with the county. I'm fairly certain this is either PFBC or PGC. I think it's most likely PFBC because PGC is now on STARNet for most operations.
It’s a Centre County DCNR TG so the rangers can run info through county. Black Moshannon, Bald Eagle and Forestry uses it now.
 

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Silly question: other systems in the DB that don't have any TDMA talkgroups are listed as Phase II but Centre County isn't. I assume the other systems are marked as Phase II because their bandplan lists them as TDMA capable. Centre County's system is TDMA capable but doesn't have any Phase II TG in use for now. Is there a reason why it's still Phase I?
 

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Silly question: other systems in the DB that don't have any TDMA talkgroups are listed as Phase II but Centre County isn't. I assume the other systems are marked as Phase II because their bandplan lists them as TDMA capable. Centre County's system is TDMA capable but doesn't have any Phase II TG in use for now. Is there a reason why it's still Phase I?
It’s only a Phase 1 system
 

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But what about the other systems that are listed as Phase II in the DB but have no Phase II talkgroups?
Respectfully that has nothing to do with this system.
I’ll try to answer the question. Some systems may be listed as Phase 2 even though they’re only operating in Phase 1 for a few reasons. 1. Their Phase 2 capable but the agency is not using that feature at present. 2. It’s a Phase 2 system but is operating in Phase 1 until all non-TDMA radios are replaced allowing full Phase 2 operation. 3. It was uploaded to the database as Phase 2 either by mistake or an admin typed it wrong and it was never changed.
 

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A off the subject question. EMS must still
Have med radios in their rigs. I hear them talking to Union county
 

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A off the subject question. EMS must still
Have med radios in their rigs. I hear them talking to Union county
Most do for going to Clearfield, Union (med), and Mifflin (UHF) and Clinton and Union (fire) (VHF)
 

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Heard a unit call as Golf 11 (G11) on the DCNR talkgroup. Any idea what park or agency that is?
 
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