Centre County P25 Trunking Control Channel Traffic
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alexguf
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Central Susq Regional 911 Snyder/union talk to them on there Analog P-1. Based in the forest area of those 2 counties
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ChrisRupert
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Are the school districts linked to the Centre County 800 MHz also?
dmason04
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Yes they do have talkgroups on the system. SCASD has three talkgroups, BEASD has one and so does BASD. Some of the private schools have access as well via the School PD talkgroup. The IDs of these talkgroups are guarded well by the county and they’re rarely used. SCASD and BASD have access to the local PD talkgroups as well.
Wrong. They do not have access to PD talkgroups.
Post the bandplan and a screenshot of the data from a CC monitoring program like DSD+ or Unitrunker and that will put this question to rest. It's not unusual for a system to have a hardware upgrade to support but not use Phase II. This is what happened with ICORRS before they added Lawrence and Butler P2 stuff to the system. The whole state of Ohio system is P2 capable but utilizes no P2 groups.
There's no bandplan listed yet for this system so it will be good to have regardless of what it shows. And if you are banned from submitting, just post it here for me or another admin to see.
dmason04
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Here's a screenshot of the bandplan, captured via SDRTrunk.
While this is the band plan the system is transmitting it’s not Phase 2. I’ve personally touched radios on the system and the only slot used is 0(1). You should know this too.
Regardless of how the subscriber units are programmed, if the system is offering a TDMA bandplan it is a P2 capable system and should be updated to reflect that. A system doesn't have to have any TDMA talkgroups to be P2 capable.
dmason04
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The rumor is that P2 isn't too far away. I understand it's a rumor, however, agencies are beginning to apply for grants to purchase new units which are supposed to be TDMA capable. The possible transition to P2 may be slow, but the system can support it.
Remember Philadelphia anyone?
Philadelphia Trunking System, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Philadelphia Trunking System Profile
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dmason04
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Remember Philadelphia anyone?
Philadelphia Trunking System, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Philadelphia Trunking System Profilewww.radioreference.com
But note that those radios are not TDMA capable. This system has some TDMA-capable radios (mostly newer Kenwood radios).
From our DB Admin Handbook: Trunked systems shall always be entered with the “highest level” mode of operation for which it is confirmed to be capable. For example, enter a Project 25 system as “Phase 2” type if it is confirmed to be Phase 2 capable even if it has no TDMA talkgroups confirmed in use yet.
JethrowJohnson
I love P25
I thought Philadelphia PD tried to go to P25 back in 2008 and it didn't work causing them to switch back to analog?Remember Philadelphia anyone?
Philadelphia Trunking System, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Philadelphia Trunking System Profilewww.radioreference.com
I dunno about that..
I was thinking if this..
Philly PD Phase II
I searched a bit for this but came up with some old threads talking about the possibility of a switch, but now it appears they have switched. Admittedly I normally just listen to DELCO and haven't tuned into Philly for awhile. Yesterday I activated the PPD scan list and was only getting...
Philly Going Phase 2
Haha yeah true dad's old radio shack 2011 base scanner was 20 channels and I had the whole city covered in that. Thinking back to the good old days when Philly fire was on VHF and the police were on UHF you could keep the whole system in your head and when the first programmable handheld came...
Philadelphia Fire Dept.
I have the 'old' Phase 1 800 mhz digital system programmed in my radio. I see where they have switched to Phase 2, but I thought I read where they haven't switched over. Will I be able to monitor them on the old Phase 1 system? My scanner cannot be programmed for Phase 2. Than you.
JethrowJohnson
I love P25
Yeah, I remembered an old news report that I came across a while ago that was from 2008, and if I'm remembering it right, they said that PPD switched to P25 but the computer malfunctioned or something and their whole radio system was completely out of service for over an hour or so, so they had to go back to analog.I dunno about that..
I was thinking if this..
Philly PD Phase II
I searched a bit for this but came up with some old threads talking about the possibility of a switch, but now it appears they have switched. Admittedly I normally just listen to DELCO and haven't tuned into Philly for awhile. Yesterday I activated the PPD scan list and was only getting...forums.radioreference.com
Philly Going Phase 2
Haha yeah true dad's old radio shack 2011 base scanner was 20 channels and I had the whole city covered in that. Thinking back to the good old days when Philly fire was on VHF and the police were on UHF you could keep the whole system in your head and when the first programmable handheld came...After the outcries they changed it to what it's listed as now, rules can be bent apparently.Philadelphia Fire Dept.
I have the 'old' Phase 1 800 mhz digital system programmed in my radio. I see where they have switched to Phase 2, but I thought I read where they haven't switched over. Will I be able to monitor them on the old Phase 1 system? My scanner cannot be programmed for Phase 2. Than you.
dmason04
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Not sure if the admins will make the change or not but I hope we see one. People should have the most up to date information
There is some internal discussion about it. We'll see what shakes out.
dmason04
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New P25 Phase II system license in Centre County (unsure if this system is the same as the other FirstEnergy system :
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