Cochise Fire West? arizona cochise county hereford sierra vista palominas

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apco25

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The 700mhz system already uses 6 simulcast sites and provides excellent coverage county wide....there's numerous sites on various mountains in Cochise county already including on public lands

Everything is narrow FM on VHF unless noted otherwise and P25 etc. 12.5khzspaced, 2.5mhz deviation other than ham and marine band. There's no need to search in 5khz steps.
 

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Does anybody know the frequency and specs for Cochise Fire West?
When traveling through locations like Hereford AZ.
Dispatch assigns incidents to Fire West.
Uniden SDS200 DB is up to date zip; Tried zip's 85615 (hereford) 85635 (sierra vista)
Services enabled: Fire Dispatch, Fire TAC, Fire Talk.
I'm guessing one of the following:
1. It IS in the DB but has wrong data settings e.g. mis-categorized Service name, zip, etc.
2. It is NOT in the DB.
RR database csv does not list a FIRE WEST.
Cochise county RR files available downloaded and reviewed:
ctid_105.csv
Conventional Report for Santa Cruz County-96857-county-105.pdf
(I know, county name seems wrong)
155.6550 - CT:114.8
 

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155.445000, C 114.8, SEACOM FIRE-WEST (experiencing 'echo' artifact ~200msec between primary and echo)

155.655000, C 114.8 C 173.8, SEACOM FIRE-WEST

155.040000, C 114.8, SEACOM FIRE-EAST

155.150000, C 114.8, SEACOM BENSON FIRE secondary?
 

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I'd like to decode the MDC ID's using a PC (SDS-200 doesn't decode). Any suggestions appreciated.
I have an outboard C-Plus II MDC decoder from Cimarron. They are expensive but I got lucky and found it at a hamfest a few years back for $100, I think they go for $1500 or so new.

There is an app for the iPhone (and perhaps Android) called Radio ID that decodes MDC ID's off the air. There have also been some software solutions like WinMDC10 but I don't know if these are still available.

Many Motorola radios, like the CDM series, will also decode received MDC codes.

I am sure there are other solutions as well. Check for Midian and others.
 

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"Q" channels for special fire assignment? Yes. They do assign alternate "Q" channels on fire dispatch for big stuff. Contact: heard assigning units to Q1, Q13. Very infrequent. No idea where these are in the systems or spectrum. Curious and interested to know if anyone has seen those designations in a DB. Maybe a P25 call group or link or patch? And where they might be...

MDC-1200: Confirmed. All Fire West units transmit MDC-1200 on PTT down or PTT up (Automatic Numeric ID ANI.) I've tried some smartphone decoder apps and they do use interesting and unique numbers, but using audio coupling is not great, and, of course, those apps are just for visual, not practical for using for logging history statistics or trigger alarms.
 
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Thanks for your suggestions
Do some searching on forums and the Internet. There are many different hardware and software solutions available.

If you have an iPhone, there is an app ‎Radio ID
Hardware solution Motorola MDC1200 (MDC-1200) Products - Midian
PC Software Sorcerer Decoder Download – KD0CQ

There are many other solutions depending on your requirements.

Tried Radio ID. Audio coupling not great, and I'd like a PC app to do logging...
Sorcerer Decoder Download – KD0CQ installed, messed with it a little with no success, unsure how to make it work... looks like it needs vbcable installed in the audio driver chain.
 

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Unless something just changed the only MDC being used was on the console side. There's some MDC1200 usage by various radios on Tombstone fire and Benson Fire. Willcox PD and FD is heavy PTT-ID via MDC , but they are on their own repeaters for PD and FD. I did hear them on Fire-East for

As for these "Q' channels. You've really got to stop over thinking and speculating on fire radio usage in Cochise county and in general. This is a generally rural county with only a few actual small cities and towns. There's barely enough traffic to support their 700 Phase 2 systems (money from Buffet's kid paid towards that) let alone all these mystery talkgroups and other channels you think exist. You're probably confusing map grids or sectors for additional radio channels. All of these fire districts have their published, now local use repeaters or simplex licenses still. All they've done is go to a consolidated or unified fire dispatch after repurposed frequencies from the Sheriff's Office.

I've said this before. There's really limited comms needed for fire/ems dispatch, response and status outside of a big working fire. Dispatched, Enroute, On Scene, Returning and In-Quarters is about all you get across the country. There's little if any radio traffic on scene an the guys on the rig or ambo go in together, take care of the call and leave together. They dont need to talk to each other via the radio. The officer on the rig handles the little comms back to dispatch almost exclusively.

Also there's no need for them to be dispatched on VHF and then tell them to get on another radio for a trunked system and keep talking there. That's silly. There's no need and not how things are done. If they want to maintain VHF access say for volunteers or pagers it would be patched back from a trunked system, not telling them to get on another radio to keep talking to the same people.

Not trying to be mean here, but you're spinning yourself into a massive amount of speculation that isn't productive. I'd highly suggest you just listen to Fire-East and West for a while and take a big breath and relax.
 

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Something else that should be mentioned; there's many frequencies from a prior proposed but never built P25 VHF Phase 1 Simulcast system, which is where the various changes are coming from - that pool of frequencies already licensed but not used by Cochise County.
 

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Q channel Info: SEACOM Fire West dispatched an incident assigning units to Respond On Q14 800 North. Wondering if Q14 800 North and Q-Groups are digital talk groups and-or patches. When incident was finished a request was made to Clear Q-14.
 

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'Q14'=800 Fire North
Large incident south Cochise County, Fire West dispatched (155.655) SV FD units to respond on 'Q14'.
Units confirmed response as 'Switching-To' or 'Responding-On' '800 Fire North', '800 North' and '800'.
Unable to track Q14/800. Flagging here for possible SVFD DB update additional info.
 
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