Codeplug from Apx 8000 to 6000

[D4chaplain]

So I am trying to program an Apx 6000 for my fire dept. I have the codeplug from an Apx 8000 that one of the chiefs use. I know it won’t be a simple plug and play. I’ve transferred all relevant info and written to radio. The signal on and off will sync, the other time it flashes the red arrows out.

I spoke with someone who does programming for state level and he said I’d need to transpose the 8000 to the 6000. Any idea of a guide or something to help with this. I’m gonna eventually meet with him but will be a while before we can.

 

[daine1619]

You can always try a high level drag and drop and then work through the errors that will show up

 

[N4KVE]

You can always try a high level drag and drop and then work through the errors that will show up

Had a friend do this for me once. While it took ten minutes to do the drag, & drop, it took two hours to fix all the errors. The radio was badly out of tune after that, so an autotune was necessary. Now it’s fine.

 

[D4chaplain]

So I’ve worked through the errors but still isn’t fully working. I do see several differences from the 8000 and 6000 but they are greyed.

 

[Tech21]

Had a friend do this for me once. While it took ten minutes to do the drag, & drop, it took two hours to fix all the errors. The radio was badly out of tune after that, so an autotune was necessary. Now it’s fine.

Writing a codeplug to a radio does not and should not mess with any tuning values.

So I am trying to program an Apx 6000 for my fire dept. I have the codeplug from an Apx 8000 that one of the chiefs use. I know it won’t be a simple plug and play. I’ve transferred all relevant info and written to radio. The signal on and off will sync, the other time it flashes the red arrows out.

I spoke with someone who does programming for state level and he said I’d need to transpose the 8000 to the 6000. Any idea of a guide or something to help with this. I’m gonna eventually meet with him but will be a while before we can.

Simply do a top level drag and drop. By top level, it means clicking on the serial number of the radio you want to clone from in the codeplug configuration menu and dragging that over to same location in the CPS instance for the radio you want to clone to.

Be sure to have relevant system keys for all trunking/conventional systems in the radio loaded in both instances of CPS. Done properly, you should not experience any validation errors if both radios were optioned identically. If not optioned identically, validation errors should only be a few.

 

[D4chaplain]

I’ll try that way on the dash and drop. They are not optioned identically but hardly any of the good features are on for the 8000. Maybe I can convince the chief to trade my 7000 for his 8000?

 

[D4chaplain]

Would going from an Apx 4000 to the 6000 be a better option? We have a couple of 4000 in use I could get the codeplug for.

 

[W0JJK]

You can also use the export/import feature. You can export just what you want trunking, conventional, scan and other options from the donor radio.

You then open up the radio you want to change and use the import. You select what you want imported. There will be errors but I found it to work well when dealing with different radios and flash codes.

 

[D4chaplain]

You can also use the export/import feature. You can export just what you want trunking, conventional, scan and other options from the donor radio.

You then open up the radio you want to change and use the import. You select what you want imported. There will be errors but I found it to work well when dealing with different radios and flash codes.

I’ll give this a try

 

[n3obl]

Top level drag and drop definitely does not change tuning values.

 

[N4KVE]

Top level drag and drop definitely does not change tuning values.

So forcing a 8000 CP with all bands into a UHF 1 6000 doesn’t affect tuning at all? I’m asking because when I bought my 6000, it was tuned, & worked fine. My friend stuffed the 8000 CP in it, & deleted the VHF, 700/800, & UHF 2 freq’s, & that’s when it started acting funny. Analog was fine, but transmitting below 455 MHz was weird, like the dev bal was off. Mind you, he did “update” the FC before stuffing the CP. Retuned it again, & all is fine. I did have a CP from a different 6000 I could have used, but the UHF zones in the 8000 were more up to date. Thanks for any opinions.

 

[GTR8000]

So forcing a 8000 CP with all bands into a UHF 1 6000 doesn’t affect tuning at all? I’m asking because when I bought my 6000, it was tuned, & worked fine. My friend stuffed the 8000 CP in it, & deleted the VHF, 700/800, & UHF 2 freq’s, & that’s when it started acting funny. Analog was fine, but transmitting below 455 MHz was weird, like the dev bal was off. Retuned it again, & all is fine. I did have a CP from a different 6000 I could have used, but the UHF zones in the 8000 were more up to date. Thanks for any opinions.

If your friend "stuffed" an APX 8000 codeplug into an APX 6000, then he was clearly using software he shouldn't have been using, and all bets are off. We are discussing legitimate means of using CPS to migrate data from one codeplug to another via drag-n-drop or XML export/import, not fools who use Depot CPS to ignorantly force codeplugs into the wrong model radio. 🙄

 

[N4KVE]

If your friend "stuffed" an APX 8000 codeplug into an APX 6000, then he was clearly using software he shouldn't have been using, and all bets are off. We are discussing legitimate means of using CPS to migrate data from one codeplug to another via drag-n-drop or XML export/import, not fools who use Depot CPS to ignorantly force codeplugs into the wrong model radio. 🙄

Thanks. I honestly don’t know, as he doesn’t like it when I look over his shoulder. Yes, he did update my FC like you said, but I don’t know how he transferred the CP. So while he’s doing this, I play with his cat across the room. Thanks for the reply.

 

[KevinC]

Thanks. I honestly don’t know, as he doesn’t like it when I look over his shoulder. Yes, he did update my FC like you said, but I don’t know how he transferred the CP. So while he’s doing this, I play with his cat across the room. Thanks for the reply.

You need new friends. And as has been said, drag and stop will not touch tuning values.

 

[N4KVE]

You need new friends. And as has been said, drag and stop will not touch tuning values.

Done. He really pi$$ed me off in October, & haven’t spoken to him since.

 

[Outerdog]

I honestly don’t know,

Yet you're compelled to post in threads discussing Motorola codeplugs.

Just stop it. No harm in not knowing. But spewing trash is not at all helpful.

 

[GTR8000]

There are 2-3 members of this site who can't seem to help themselves when it comes to spewing nonsense here in the Motorola forum, and never pass up an opportunity to make a veiled or overt reference to Depot software or other means to modify features. It's getting pretty old and tiresome.

Mods...no need for a warning, I'm done.

 

[2154]

Drag/drop can play with the power output settings some (as others have said-won't touch the tuning) but especially if going from mobile-portable or portable-mobile code plugs, you'll have to take a few minutes to adjust some of the power settings within said codeplug.

 

[12dbsinad]

Done. He really pi$$ed me off in October, & haven’t spoken to him since.

Well there. He can no longer "stuff" your radio. God only hopes he used protection

 

[wa8pyr]

Had a friend do this for me once. While it took ten minutes to do the drag, & drop, it took two hours to fix all the errors. The radio was badly out of tune after that, so an autotune was necessary. Now it’s fine.

Top level drag and drop definitely does not change tuning values.

Only thing that can change is the TX power levels if the codeplug you're copying from has different settings than the radio you're copying to. Simple solution is to note the TX power settings in the original radio, and update the settings once the drag and drop is complete.