Check.! I have some conventional channels in SL 01. They never hit. SL 02 is working now as I have the channels and talk groups checked off. Still learning.
Comal & Hays Emergency Services
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Those garbled transmissions for New Braunfels are because they use encryption. Later Whistler scanners, like my TRX-1, allow you to specify how the scanner treats encrypted transmissions. You can select one of three options: Ignore the encryption, and move on to the next unencrypted signal; play an audio sound, like the "busy" signal from a telephone call; or listen to the digital noise of the encrypted signal, like you are hearing on your WS1040. Your only options are to either leave it programmed, just in case at some point they might use clear, unencrypted, signals, or either delete, or lock out, that talkgroup or conventional channel. By default, Uniden scanners simply ignore encrypted transmissions and move on as soon as encryption is recognized.
Once you have more experience with it, you'll be more comfortable and programming will be almost second nature.
Maiden voyage last weekend resulted in ZERO hits. Expensive paper weight IMO
Post your programming file so that we can take a look. You’ll have to zip it to attach. Right click on the file using Windows File Explorer and you’ll see an option to compress the file.
Also, did you buy that scanner new? Or previously own, purchased from eBay or some individual. If previously owned, did you verify that it was working before purchasing?
New from Whistler. Garbled transmissions only. NBPD dispatch displays. Nothing discernible. I’ve not taken time to play with after my initial disappointment. I will get back on it this evening
will this work. its a link saved from win500. I just hit on NBFD dispatch. Scan list 02.p500
try this
Now hitting on NB FD dispatch. Apparently nothing wrong with unit or my being able to program. Will continue to fool around with it. Thanks for the input
Remember that New Braunfels PD is fully encrypted, so "garbled audio" is all you'll get. Their channels are not tagged as 'part time encrypted', so unless there is a radio system failure of some type, you will not be able to hear clear transmissions.
Looking at the rest of your file right now.
San Marcus TGID 5582, SM PD dispatch, is labeled TE. The T means P25 Phase II, beyond your scanner's capability, as well as full time encrypted (the E). Either of those rules out clear transmissions on your scanner. While that won't help you with Encryption, Whistler does have a P25 Phase II capable scanner, the TRX-1 handheld or TRX-2 desktop/mobile. Either of those (plus a number of Uniden models, starting with the 325P2 handheld or 996P2 desktop/mobile) would at least let you monitor the Phase II talkgroups (mode T) as long as they are not encrypted. Older, discontinued Whistler scanners, WS1080 & WS1088 (handheld), or WS1095 & WS1098 desktop/mobile are also capable of P25 Phase II (though not, of course, encryption).
Looking at your frequencies, you have have the frequencies for several sites in the same Site. You have it set as "Roam". Using Riam, under the Multi-site mode, the scanner will only use the frequency with the best control channel signal. So, it wold only monitor one site. If the talkgroup is used on one of the Hays County sites (on the LCRA system), but not the other two, you might never hear it if they are not on the site being used. If you changed the mode to "Stationery", then it will review ll of the channels when looking to see if any of the programmed talkgroups are active.
Looking at the rest of your file, and will post results later.
Looking at your frequencies, you have have the frequencies for several sites in the same Site. You have it set as "Roam". Using Riam, under the Multi-site mode, the scanner will only use the frequency with the best control channel signal. So, it wold only monitor one site. If the talkgroup is used on one of the Hays County sites (on the LCRA system), but not the other two, you might never hear it if they are not on the site being used. If you changed the mode to "Stationery", then it will review ll of the channels when looking to see if any of the programmed talkgroups are active.
Looking at the rest of your file, and will post results later.
With the frequencies for all of the Hays County sites listed, you need to use Multi-site. As noted above, the way you have it now, it will only find the best control channel signal, and monitor only that site, Some talkgroups, like for a specific city, might only be carried on one site. For the the county related TGIDs (like for the Sheriff's Office or County Fire), might be heard on all the sites, or maybe not. The system administrator can set it up either way. Without knowing how it's set, if you set the scanner to take a peak at all the sites, you'd catch it either way (again, that would be if a it was Mode D (P25 Phase I) and b it was not encrypted, E. (If the TGID is tagged with a lower case e, then you might hear them whenever encryption is not being used). Not being in your specific area, I have no idea how much of the time encryption was, or was not, in use if tagged as 'part time".
Multi-Site:
Here's the status of your talkgroups:
The upper case D in green indicates P25 Phase I, and not encrypted. Should not have an issue on receiving.
The yellow De is Phase I, but part time encrypted. It's Phase I, so you would hear this as long as encryption was not turned on at that time.
The ones in red are either P25 Phase II (T), or full time encrypted E, either of which rules out reception of these completely.
I did not do a line by line review of your conventional frequencies. I presume you imported them from the database, so you should be fine.
Multi-Site:
Here's the status of your talkgroups:
The upper case D in green indicates P25 Phase I, and not encrypted. Should not have an issue on receiving.
The yellow De is Phase I, but part time encrypted. It's Phase I, so you would hear this as long as encryption was not turned on at that time.
The ones in red are either P25 Phase II (T), or full time encrypted E, either of which rules out reception of these completely.
I did not do a line by line review of your conventional frequencies. I presume you imported them from the database, so you should be fine.
You only have the LCRA trunked system programmed. You need to import GATRRS for Comal County agencies (if any of those are of interest).
Here's your file as modified, if you want to try it.
I marked as "locked out" the Hays County TGIDs that are either full time encrypted, or P25 Phase II. I did leave TGID 11001 (New Braunfels PD dispatch) unlocked; it is P25 Phase I, and only marked as part time encrypted. When they are in the clear, you'd hear them. If encrypted, you'll hear garbled audio, sometimes described (in the forums) as R2D2 on steroids. I left those on your Scanlist 2
I added the public safety TGIDs for Comal, on GATRRS, that are not encrypted. All of the GATRRS talkgroups are P25 Phase I, so if you can hear the site(s), you'd hear activity. Obviously. if not of interest, either delete the GATRRS trunked system or lock it out. Those are enabled on Scanlist 4. I did not import GATRRS talkgroups marked as full time encrypted.
I did not alter what you had imported for conventional channels. You'll likely want to weed out a few of those, for example the water department. You had those assigned to Scanlist 3, but it was not enabled to scan; only Scanlist 2. LCRA. I enabled the conventionals.
Instead of seeing "Scanlist 2" (or 3, or 4) scroll across the bottom of your display, you can name the lists, such as LCRA for Scanlist 2. And, if you want, you can tag your conventional channels, as well as talkgroups, to use the LED display, such as Red for Fire talkgroups, Blue for Police. I use Red for Fire, Yellow for EMS, the light blue (Uniden labels it as Cyan) for city PDs, and the dark blue for state law enforcement (Tx DPS). You can also select any of them to flash, if you want to spot your more important channels when in use. Whether you do that or not is completely up to you.
You do not have Tx DPS talkgroups on LCRA imported, so I did not import them into GATRRS either. DPS does have some conventional frequencies, but I have no idea how much they are used in your counties of interest. They might use only the trunked systems. Whether you add their talkgroups, and/or conventional channels is up to you.
The file is zipped. Use Windows Explorer to unzip and then open in Win500 to take a peek.
I marked as "locked out" the Hays County TGIDs that are either full time encrypted, or P25 Phase II. I did leave TGID 11001 (New Braunfels PD dispatch) unlocked; it is P25 Phase I, and only marked as part time encrypted. When they are in the clear, you'd hear them. If encrypted, you'll hear garbled audio, sometimes described (in the forums) as R2D2 on steroids. I left those on your Scanlist 2
I added the public safety TGIDs for Comal, on GATRRS, that are not encrypted. All of the GATRRS talkgroups are P25 Phase I, so if you can hear the site(s), you'd hear activity. Obviously. if not of interest, either delete the GATRRS trunked system or lock it out. Those are enabled on Scanlist 4. I did not import GATRRS talkgroups marked as full time encrypted.
I did not alter what you had imported for conventional channels. You'll likely want to weed out a few of those, for example the water department. You had those assigned to Scanlist 3, but it was not enabled to scan; only Scanlist 2. LCRA. I enabled the conventionals.
Instead of seeing "Scanlist 2" (or 3, or 4) scroll across the bottom of your display, you can name the lists, such as LCRA for Scanlist 2. And, if you want, you can tag your conventional channels, as well as talkgroups, to use the LED display, such as Red for Fire talkgroups, Blue for Police. I use Red for Fire, Yellow for EMS, the light blue (Uniden labels it as Cyan) for city PDs, and the dark blue for state law enforcement (Tx DPS). You can also select any of them to flash, if you want to spot your more important channels when in use. Whether you do that or not is completely up to you.
You do not have Tx DPS talkgroups on LCRA imported, so I did not import them into GATRRS either. DPS does have some conventional frequencies, but I have no idea how much they are used in your counties of interest. They might use only the trunked systems. Whether you add their talkgroups, and/or conventional channels is up to you.
The file is zipped. Use Windows Explorer to unzip and then open in Win500 to take a peek.
For Hays County other than the Sheriff the only LE I hear on a regular basis is Kyle PD.
The set up of the simulcasts is a bit baffling to me. There are six distinct Simulcast "zones" each with it's own set of frequencies. My question is if all traffic is carried on all six "zones?" If not it seems to operate more as a Smart Zone system.
I'm well north of Hays, but receive some of the zones quite well in my truck. Just not well enough to know if they all carry traffic simultaneously.
The set up of the simulcasts is a bit baffling to me. There are six distinct Simulcast "zones" each with it's own set of frequencies. My question is if all traffic is carried on all six "zones?" If not it seems to operate more as a Smart Zone system.
I'm well north of Hays, but receive some of the zones quite well in my truck. Just not well enough to know if they all carry traffic simultaneously.
Noted. Kyle is a bit out of my area of interest. I’ve been able to program Hays conventional channels but no test drive yet. NBFD dispatch is hitting often while in NB
Did you try the file I posted? If so, did it work?
