F-22 Crash

[poltergeisty]

FOXNews.com - F-22 Crashes Near Edwards Air Force Base, Killing Pilot - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News

One crash after another. WTH!!

 

[rdale]

I'm surprised their comms are in the clear -- what did you hear?

 

[ScannerDude244]

Didn't this happen a few days ago? or this one a a new one?

 

[DaveIN]

Yesterday morning. Sad news! Also $140 million per airplane.

 

[kb2vxa]

The Raptor is off to a bad start but that's the way it goes with new aircraft in the evaluation phase. Flight testing is a dangerous game but consider this, early jet test pilots gained fame and notoriety, being one of our first astronauts was just the last major accomplishment in Chuck Yeager's long and illustrious career. Then there were far more who didn't survive but gave their lives for the advancement of our defense and aerospace capabilities, servicemen behind the lines in a battle of a different sort.

 

[immelmen]

If you want your own F-16, buy an acre of land in AZ, you will get one eventually. If you would rather have a Harrier, buy in North Carolina....the -22 and -35 will be no different. Civil or military, Intolerance of mistakes is part of the game you must accept if you want to play. When I began my flying career I was told to expect to lose a friend every two years. Luckily it has not been quite that bad, but I have still seen enough friends killed to be reminded of what a check airman once told me: "No matter how much you love flying, the b1tch dont love ya back".....

 

[poltergeisty]

I think the pilot waited too long to eject.

 

[rdale]

How much sooner should he have popped out?

 

[Air490]

Maybe. He may have thought the situation was not as bad as it actually was.
Unfortunately there have been many brave pilots that have lost their lives over the years trying to prevent their aircraft doing damage when they crashed.

 

[poltergeisty]

How much sooner should he have popped out?

It's a common phenomena with VERY experienced test pilots where they try to save the plane almost to crashing...
I believe he was also a Lockheed Martin engineer.

At least that's what I know. Feel free to correct me anyone.



Thrust vectoring, it's a B1tch...

 

[rdale]

I guess my question is -- when did he eject? How'd you even get that info in the first place, I haven't seen anything released?

 

[fmon]

It's a common phenomena with VERY experienced test pilots where they try to save the plane almost to crashing...
I believe he was also a Lockheed Martin engineer.

At least that's what I know. Feel free to correct me anyone.



Thrust vectoring, it's a B1tch...

He was a 21 year retired AF pilot. Joined Lockheed in 03 as a test pilot. I've seen nothing of any attempt to eject.

 

[immelmen]

Have not read the details about this specific accident, but here is something to consider with regard to ejecting in general: some times the G forces involved with structural failure or an aerodynamic upset, such as a "departure", are violent to the extent reaching the loud handle is physically impossible and also often result in unconsciousness. Those airframes can load over 10 G in less then one second without failure, most humans cannot.

 

[rdale]

I think the pilot waited too long to eject.

AW&ST reports that the pilot did NOT eject... Not sure where you heard all your comms, but if you heard him say he was ejecting it was a false report.

 

[poltergeisty]

He didn't.... yes. He probably waited too long...

He didn't eject...

I can also tell you that simulations are showing the same error.

 

[ff026]

being one of our first astronauts was just the last major accomplishment in Chuck Yeager's long and illustrious career.

chuck yeager was never an astronaut! he did not have an engineering degree and was rejected by NASA!

 

[eorange]

Chuck was never an astronaut in the traditional sense. However, he did fly to about 80,000 feet which is the beginning of "space", so in that sense you could label him an astronaut.

But he was always a test and fighter pilot. His book was awesome!