funny word

[jake14]

I was just listening to aaco fd and the dispatcher said " Respond coalt on Bravo"
I never heard the word Coalt before What does it mean?

 

[TinEar]

Could it have been "cold"...meaning to run without lights and siren as opposed to hot?

 

[ResQguy]

Yes, AACo is now dispatching runs as "hot, warm or cold" responses depending on priority.

 

[Llwellyn]

What the heck is so wrong with the priority/code system used by everyone else that they had to come up with an entirely different verbiage? In fact, weren't they using a priority system in the first place?

 

[TinEar]

Good to see you back on here Llwellyn. I think the priority system applies once the patient has been examined and the decision is made what to do about the illness/injury. The cold/hot applies to how the medic unit will respond to the call...like a NASCAR driver with full speed and noise or sanely and safely to a known low priority call.

 

[Llwellyn]

Yeah, I've been lurking around. Without a radio, I don't have too much to say unless someone asks for help

They used to refer to going to service calls as responding "priority 4", i.e. no emergency... and I think they did refer to an emergency response that wasn't urgent as a "priority 3" response...

It would make sense if they would continue/begin to use the priority system instead of cold/warm/hot, since all suppression staff are also EMT's, they are automatically familiar with all of the medical protocols, including the priority/triage levels.

Maybe I'm just talking out my can, but I think cold/warm/hot just sounds... stupid.

 

[Dank]

I liked to Montgomery Co system, but maybe they too have changed their method or prioritizing responses. (see other post on board). They used to say respond (meaing lights nad siren) or routine service call (no lights or siren), and in the event that a response was downgraded you may hear the term 'proceed'

 

[troymail]

I'm suprised it took this long for someone to ask (-:

Hot - everyone is running emergency (lights/siren)
Warm - the "first due" unit runs emergency and all others run non-emergency until advised otherwise
Cold - ALL units respond non-emergency

 

[troymail]

I'm suprised it took this long for someone to ask (-:

Hot - everyone is running emergency (lights/siren)
Warm - the "first due" unit runs emergency and all others run non-emergency until advised otherwise
Cold - ALL units respond non-emergency

OK - now even I'm confused - first arriving units when the response if HOT are supposed to tell other units to reduce speed if the situation warrants (nothing evident, etc.) -- however, I've been hearing the first arriving unit tell others to reduce to WARM - which, at least in my mind, makes absolutely no sense since the first due unit is already on location -- which means everyone else should be COLD (if told to reduce to WARM).

Perhaps this is just everyone getting used to things.....

 

[Al42]

If the original response was hot, telling them to reduce to warm would mean the same thing as telling them to reduce to cold - but since the first unit ran hot, the response turned out to be warm, not cold.

It's a distinction without a difference.

 

[TinEar]

Units responding to the scene of a fire this morning in Anne Arundel County were told by the first unit on the scene to slow their response to "warm." Fire Alarm then told that unit that there is no longer a "warm" response - that it must be either "hot" or "cold." (0955 responding to East Ordnance Road on TG144)

 

[ResQguy]

I really have a lukewarm feeling about this new response protocol. If you don't resond hot to my emergency, I may give you the cold shoulder when you finally arrive on scene....

 

[wadeless28]

Units responding to the scene of a fire this morning in Anne Arundel County were told by the first unit on the scene to slow their response to "warm." Fire Alarm then told that unit that there is no longer a "warm" response - that it must be either "hot" or "cold." (0955 responding to East Ordnance Road on TG144)

That would be a true statement. The SOP states that a "Hot" response is where all units respond emergency. "Warm is where the 1st due unit responds emergency and all other units respond non-emergency. "Cold" is when all units respond non-emergency.

Now, if the first arriving unit on a hot response arrives and sizes up the situation, and finds a hot response is no longer needed from the rest the units, that officer should advise the remaining units to complete their response cold. A “Warm” response would not accurate since the first unit has already arrived on location.

Clear as mud isn’t it. It will take a while to get used too. An officer on a piece of apparatus has not only now to worry about what is happening on the scene, but, he/she also has to figure out the proper radio terminology is so Fire Alarm won’t scold them.

Mike

 

[troymail]

....and the rest of the responding units need to figure out what CMD on the scene really wants.... I heard another call last night where CMD told other units to continue in WARM... no one toild him that was wrong ... so that leaves the others to figure out what that really means --- anyone with half a brain would understand that to mean COLD but then again...

I still think it is that folks are uncomfortable telling units to stop and wait for all red lights ,etc under a non-first-due WARM or otherwise COLD response. In the past, on-scene units were happy reducing others to PRI 3 because it still allowed all units to come in emergency but under "slower" conditions.... that option no longer exists. They can only "come in screaming" (HOT) or "crawl in" (COLD).

Not to worry - as soon as folks get comfortable, it will change again.

:twisted:

BTW - another scenario - I heard an engine go on a Medical Service Call and then after evaluating the patient, decided the patient should go to the ER to be seen. The OIC told fire alarm to have the BLS unit to respond in HOT so that's what fire alarm dispatched it as. Why? They requested a BLS unit which implies a PRI 3 or PRI 4 (no lights, no siren) transport to the hospital... So, with a unit on the scene and a non-emergency transport, why does the BLS unit respond to the scene HOT???
Errrrrr.

 

[NINN27]

the genius was probably thinking that if the BLS came in hot... that would free them up more quickly for a higher priority call that may come in in their first due...

im not saying its correct, just probably how they were thinking...