Future SDS Firmware to include waterfall option .

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Firmware is usually only released when they find issues with the old firmware(items that don't work as well), as far as I know the the firmware on the SDS series works fine. The only things at this point are "wants".

Are you sure about that? Many issues discussed in this thread that can be addressed. It does work "fine", but needs "improvement".
 

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Covid, no excuse. Many, many places did remote work and with email and file sharing capabilities, no excuse firmware should have been put on hold. The rest of the world got by remotely and other companies were able to provide firmware updates during covid.
I'd say most (if not all) of the lack of updates were due to the death of Paul Opitz. I equate his position to my wife's ex-job. On paper she was the "Telecommunications coordinator" of a large petro-chemical engineering company. She had been there for 20 years and in IT the whole time, she knew the ins and outs of a LOT of things there and assumed a lot of responsibilities over the years that weren't really in her job description. Once they let her go they found out just how much she really did and begged her to come back.
I'd say Paul was the same way and it's really difficult to replace experience.
 

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They released firmware upgrades for DMR, NXDN, and Pro Voice as add ons, not fixes.

Firmware is usually only released when they find issues with the old firmware(items that don't work as well), as far as I know the the firmware on the SDS series works fine. The only things at this point are "wants".
 

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People do a lot of things at work, including updating systems, without detailing everything they do on paper or on a computer. Your ex did it, I did, and the former director of public works where I lived did it. In his case he took all of his "institutional knowledge" with him when he retired. It cost the town a considerable amount to bring him back as a consultant to do things like point out which key went to which door.

Paul Opitz no doubt had a tremendous amount of institutional knowledge about scanners that he never had the chance to pass on. Given what he had to deal with medically, it's amazing he got as much done as he did.

I place more of the responsibility on Uniden than Paul as they had no continuity plan in case something happened to Paul.

I don't know that we'll ever see the full potential of the SDS scanners as I don't know if there was ever a documented road map of what Paul had in mind.



I'd say most (if not all) of the lack of updates were due to the death of Paul Opitz. I equate his position to my wife's ex-job. On paper she was the "Telecommunications coordinator" of a large petro-chemical engineering company. She had been there for 20 years and in IT the whole time, she knew the ins and outs of a LOT of things there and assumed a lot of responsibilities over the years that weren't really in her job description. Once they let her go they found out just how much she really did and begged her to come back.
I'd say Paul was the same way and it's really difficult to replace experience.
 

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I only have one request and that is for the squelch to be fixed. No matter what settings/antenna/cables/etc..... I use, there's one (simulcast) system I can't reach without squelch set to =<1, that my older digital scanners hear just fine.
I too have this same Issue with my SDS200 Scanner & receiving of my Statewide P25 Trunked Radio System as to where I have to have my Squelch turned all the way down to ZERO or even less. Otherwise, my SDS200 Scanner will not stop on or land on any of the active TGID's when there is something going on. I will instead, clearly notice & see it passing right by active P25 Trunked Conversations that are happening & being received on it if I set the Squelch to 2 or above regardless of what Antenna I am using, RF Amplifier, etc.

I'm not sure if it will ever be fixed, addressed or even looked into by Uniden for a possible fix being that we keep going longer & longer without any promise or signs of new future or upcoming SDS Firmware Updates? :unsure:
 

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I too have this same Issue with my SDS200 Scanner & receiving of my Statewide P25 Trunked Radio System as to where I have to have my Squelch turned all the way down to ZERO or even less. Otherwise, my SDS200 Scanner will not stop on or land on any of the active TGID's when there is something going on. I will instead, clearly notice & see it passing right by active P25 Trunked Conversations that are happening & being received on it if I set the Squelch to 2 or above regardless of what Antenna I am using, RF Amplifier, etc.

I'm not sure if it will ever be fixed, addressed or even looked into by Uniden for a possible fix being that we keep going longer & longer without any promise or signs of new future or upcoming SDS Firmware Updates? :unsure:
It appears your statewide system uses 700Mhz. frequencies. I just responded to someone else on this very same subject and suggested using the Wide Invert filter which he reported back it has reduced his decode error and he's now able to monitor it.. For a few of us here, we use this setting and it has improved reception.

If you still have some issues after that, try the attenuator on the site in addition to Wide Invert. My statewide system sites that I monitor also use 700mhz. frequencies and it's a night and day difference with both used.
 

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I only have one request and that is for the squelch to be fixed. No matter what settings/antenna/cables/etc..... I use, there's one (simulcast) system I can't reach without squelch set to =<1, that my older digital scanners hear just fine.
Which system, which site? Does it use 700Mhz. frequencies?
 

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I place more of the responsibility on Uniden than Paul as they had no continuity plan in case something happened to Paul.
Now Uniden are more like any other scanner company like AOR and Icom.

Paul did a lot on a personal level in his unpaid free time even on weekends and he loved his job, to develop new innovative scanners and to help the scanner community. That probably wasn't in his job description and the management probably had opinions when he did enhancements and new features for free to scanner users, Firmware Fridays. Usually a company will be restrictive with enhancements and keep them reserved for future products to boost their sales value.

Pauls work had a big impact on the Uniden brand name as a scanner company and became by far the biggest scanner brand, almost killing everyone else as they couldn't compete with all the features in Uniden scanners. Management are probably satisfied with how scanner sales are doing and put all resources in getting new scanners out and not wasting engineering time on developing fixes for older scanners for free, those scanners are already sold and doesn't generate any more income.

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They released firmware upgrades for DMR, NXDN, and Pro Voice as add ons, not fixes.
Those aren’t firmware updates. They are keys to allow new functionality that’s already in the firmware.
 

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While nothing related to Provoice, they did push a firmware update to improve DMR and NXDN. OP may be speaking of that.

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Which system, which site? Does it use 700Mhz. frequencies?

Denver International Airport

It's a two-site 800Mhz simulcast system about 20-25 miles away as the crow flies. Wide Invert worsens the d-error rate and RSSI reading. Since it's a fairly strong signal I have also tried all filters (including Off) with attenuator on and off and on with the Normal filter gives the best results. Without squelch set to =<1, TG's flash a couple times and the radio moves on.

Was having a similar issue on another small simulcast system and it came around nicely with the Invert filter. No luck with the system above, however.
 

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I too have this same Issue with my SDS200 Scanner & receiving of my Statewide P25 Trunked Radio System as to where I have to have my Squelch turned all the way down to ZERO or even less. Otherwise, my SDS200 Scanner will not stop on or land on any of the active TGID's when there is something going on. I will instead, clearly notice & see it passing right by active P25 Trunked Conversations that are happening & being received on it if I set the Squelch to 2 or above regardless of what Antenna I am using, RF Amplifier, etc.

I'm not sure if it will ever be fixed, addressed or even looked into by Uniden for a possible fix being that we keep going longer & longer without any promise or signs of new future or upcoming SDS Firmware Updates? :unsure:

Exactly. The SDS almost acts like it's out of range, but it isn't, and it happens on both units here. Uniden should be aware of it since it has been reported before. Time will tell.
 

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No matter what settings/antenna/cables/etc..... I use, there's one (simulcast) system I can't reach without squelch set to =<1, that my older digital scanners hear just fine.

I have to have my Squelch turned all the way down to ZERO or even less. Otherwise, my SDS200 Scanner will not stop on or land on any of the active TGID's when there is something going on. I will instead, clearly notice & see it passing right by active P25 Trunked Conversations that are happening & being received on it if I set the Squelch to 2 or above regardless of what Antenna I am using, RF Amplifier, etc.


Just curious, do either of you have another 200 or know someone local with a 200 to do a comparison test on those systems? I just saw another post about another 200 needing to be on zero to pick up trunked and never saw anyone else from that area having to do the same so it seems to affect a very small number of people tho I have not done an extensive search on the matter.

If it were me having the issue, I would grab another 200 off amazon with free returns and see how that one did. Maybe the squelch knob is not working as intended and is faulty. I mean my 200 needed a new volume encoder in its first year as turning it would not increase or decrease volume level on every click.



Squelch turned all the way down to ZERO or even less.

From all the way counter clockwise, to clockwise, it takes 8 clicks (at least on mine) for it to go from displaying 0 to 1
 

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At the time of release, that functionality was not in the firmware. There were several releases of updates to add each of them, especially DMR.

Those aren’t firmware updates. They are keys to allow new functionality that’s already in the firmware.
 
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