GMRS repeater linking and the FCC

[KV4BL]

I have to respect your opinion, because you have every right to disagree with me.

I must respect your opinion, because you have every right to disagree with me. However, at the same time, you should extend me the same courtesy. Not everyone has a serious desire to take an examination to become a Licensed Amateur Radio Operator, but as long as those individuals that aren't really interest HAM obtain their GMRS license, should allowed to connect repeaters together. Just maybe they're want to get into Amateur Radio once they get a taste.

Hi Coffeemug! I too, respect your opinion and your right to have it. My point on all of this is that GMRS was set up to enable (relatively) short range contact between family, friends, and possible others. It was not established so people who are too lazy to study a manual and take a test could pretend to be those who were not too lazy and did take the test. Linking, in too many and a growing number of areas, impedes the use of GMRS for its intended purpose by piping in unnecessary chatter from dozens or thousands of miles away, which has zero relevance or interest to people in the local area. If someone doesn't want to take the test and move over to ham, where that type activity is sanctioned and approved of and causes less disruption over dozens of available frequencies versus the eight on GMRS, then that is their self-inflicted problem.

There are a lot of us on GMRS who wish to keep it as it was intended. We would ask that our opinions be respected, too.

 

[cavmedic]

I guess you missed it- I have three repeaters. So yes, I use it. Not that has a damn thing to do with following rules. I get it, no one likes being told NO- including you. What part of linking is prohibited is not understood?

Who Said I am linking anything? I could care less what they do on their repeaters as it doesn't affect mine in any way. See how that works..

 

[RFI-EMI-GUY]

Again, the 8 channels are for LOCAL COMMUNICATION which is even spelled out: 1-25 miles. Not hundreds, not a replacement for your Verizon cellphone (that's right they finally axed CDMA so you can't cling to your flip phone), or part 22, part 90 or even part 97.

The bottom line is there is no logical need to be simulcasted all over the state if the basis and purpose is LOCAL communications. I don't keep my P25 trunking system tied up with needless ISSI connections to remote parts of the state because Thomasville Police in south Georgia don't give a rats butt what's going on in Johns Creek and certainly don't need it wasting resources on their core and sites so why do GMRS'ers think they are special tying up just 8 pairs with "my piss bag needs changing" on a statewide link?

You are conflating once again. There actually NO limitation on the coverage for GMRS in Part 95 rules. There used to be for CB radio, 250 miles, but that even appears to have been lifted. Geez...

 

[KK4JUG]

but as long as those individuals that aren't really interest HAM obtain their GMRS license, should allowed to connect repeaters together.

Why? One doesn't necessarily evolve from the other. That's like, "You made your bed now gather no moss."

 

[RFI-EMI-GUY]

I guess you missed it- I have three repeaters. So yes, I use it. Not that has a damn thing to do with following rules. I get it, no one likes being told NO- including you. What part of linking is prohibited is not understood?

One guy, three repeater channels? How wasteful, just to go 1-25 miles? I am filing a complaint with the EB as we speak!

 

[KevinC]

How about we give it a break for a while? Everyone go to their corner.

 

[WB5UOM]

There apparently some here who can not understand that Ham radio operation and gmrs operation..if operated properly as INTENDED, have ZERO in common...
gmrs is not and never was a 'hobby oriented' service. The fact that gmrs licensees are allowed to communicate with each other and not just their immediate families is apparently the scapecoat out so one doesnt have to pass a test to get a tech ham license in order to talk to other licensees BUT not their immediate families unless they too are licensed.

 

[bill4long]

but as long as those individuals that aren't really interest HAM obtain their GMRS license, should allowed to connect repeaters together.

Well, no, because linking repeaters together via the Internet is not allowed on GMRS and is not the purpose of GMRS.

It really is that simple. So either use ham radio, Zello, smoke signals, carrier pigeons, or something else.

 

[KK4JUG]

While we're at it, how 'bout we set up some repeaters for CB, too?

 

[rf_patriot200]

While we're at it, how 'bout we set up some repeaters for CB, too?

NOOOoooooOOOOOOO !!!

 

[Echo4Thirty]

You are conflating once again. There actually NO limitation on the coverage for GMRS in Part 95 rules. There used to be for CB radio, 250 miles, but that even appears to have been lifted. Geez...

Correct. For simplex or a singular repeater as spelled out in part 95. Not a linked multicast system of multiple repeaters linked together. Why is this such a hard concept to grasp?

 

[MTS2000des]

One guy, three repeater channels? How wasteful, just to go 1-25 miles? I am filing a complaint with the EB as we speak!

Your assumption is wrong, they are in three different places 50-100 miles away, but you know everything. You're just pissed off because Verizon made you turn off you 20 year old CDMA phone and want to use GMRS in place so the rules should be changed just for you. I get it now.

 

[MTS2000des]

Correct. For simplex or a singular repeater as spelled out in part 95. Not a linked multicast system of multiple repeaters linked together. Why is this such a hard concept to grasp?

Because it doesn't fit his/her narrative. Common theme these days. Bend reality to fit what one wants versus following long established (for logical and good reason) rules.

 

[NC1]

While we're at it, how 'bout we set up some repeaters for CB, too?

Oh yes, running 50 watts and link them, in FM mode.

 

[AK9R]

Maybe we should stop making assumptions about another person's motives for using GMRS or about what they believe the purpose of GMRS to be.

 

[KK4JUG]

Oh yes, running 50 watts and link them, in FM mode.

While I don't do CB, I suspect users having to lower their power to 50 watts would generate protests.

 

[rf_patriot200]

Maybe we should stop making assumptions about another person's motives for using GMRS or about what they believe the purpose of GMRS to be.

Well said. While I don't have much contact with anyone on GMRS, it's sort of of Fun to see how many different repeaters one can log, and assign memories for. Some interesting tech conversations relating to ham, scanner and even commercial use have been heard.

 

[KevinC]

One thing the unlinking has done locally is greatly reduce the number of "radio checks" I hear.

 

[Peter_SD911]

Now lets remember the recent Supreme Court decision "The Chevron Deference" .
That has a major impact on federal agency "rules" and who can make and enforce them.

Congress will have to decide on this one ...
The court has spoken.

Scan Sexy
(I play an Attorney on TV)

 

[KevinC]

Now lets remember the recent Supreme Court decision "The Chevron Deference" .
That has a major impact on federal agency "rules" and who can make and enforce them.

Congress will have to decide on this one ...
The court has spoken.

Scan Sexy
(I play an Attorney on TV)

I wonder how many more times someone can mention the Chevron case in this thread? I believe this makes 6 or 7.