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73's is a 10 code. As for the "QSY" that is HAM stuff and I agree and by rule not allowed.
Huh, not really. But I will argue that 73's is slang, not a coded message. QSY is not a coded message either, and City of Miami has used Q codes for decades.
 

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73's is a 10 code. As for the "QSY" that is HAM stuff and I agree and by rule not allowed.
"73's" is a 10 code? Fifty years of APCO Aural Brevity Codes, but they missed that one.

As for "'QSY' being HAM stuff" and not allowed, please cite the rule that says this. The closest you'll get to finding a GMRS rule that say "ham stuff not allowed" is 47 CFR 95.1733(a)(9) which doesn't say anything about not using amateur radio terminology on GMRS.

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"73's" is a 10 code? Fifty years of APCO Aural Brevity Codes, but they missed that one.

As for "'QSY' being HAM stuff" and not allowed, please cite the rule that says this. The closest you'll get to finding a GMRS rule that say "ham stuff not allowed" is 47 CFR 95.1733(a)(9) which doesn't say anything about not using amateur radio terminology on GMRS.


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Where does Part 95 say that the 10 codes used on a Part 95 Subpart E freq have to be a listed/approved APCO Aural Brevity Code, it doesn't. APCO is Public Safety Comm. related not CB/Amateur Comm. related. 10-73 or 73s & 10-88 or 88s were widely used by in the CB heydays.

"QSY" is a "Q" code/signal used by the Amateur Radio enthusiasts and not allowed on a Part 95 Subpart E freq pursuant to rule 95.1733.a.(3).
 

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Where does Part 95 say that the 10 codes used on a Part 95 Subpart E freq have to be a listed/approved APCO Aural Brevity Code, it doesn't. APCO is Public Safety Comm. related not CB/Amateur Comm. related. 10-73 or 73s & 10-88 or 88s were widely used by in the CB heydays.

"QSY" is a "Q" code/signal used by the Amateur Radio enthusiasts and not allowed on a Part 95 Subpart E freq pursuant to rule 95.1733.a.(3).
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"QSY" is a "Q" code/signal used by the Amateur Radio enthusiasts and not allowed on a Part 95 Subpart E freq pursuant to rule 95.1733.a.(3).
The rule you cite (thank you) prohibits the use in GMRS of "Coded messages or messages with hidden meanings".

Since the meaning of QSY is well known to many people associated with radio, including the City of Miami Police Department, then how can you say that it's a coded message or a message with a hidden meaning?
 

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The rule you cite (thank you) prohibits the use in GMRS of "Coded messages or messages with hidden meanings".

Since the meaning of QSY is well known to many people associated with radio, including the City of Miami Police Department, then how can you say that it's a coded message or a message with a hidden meaning?
Simply, "QSY" is still a non-10-code message/signal and it is not well known in the GMRS world or any other non-HAM and Miami Police Department worlds. Most GMRS enthusiasts are not HAMs. So what, that Miami Police Department and HAMs uses it that still doesn't make it widely used except in those two entities. Just like the other people on this forum, "you" also don't know how to interpret the rules correctly. Do it right or don't do it at all. It would be best that you stick to what you do better because this is not it.
 

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"QSY" is a "Q" code/signal used by the Amateur Radio enthusiasts and not allowed on a Part 95 Subpart E freq pursuant to rule 95.1733.a.(3).
How is the usage of Q signals, widely used by hams, mariners, City of Miami PD, etc, a coded message or hidden meaning? The example (10 codes are permissible) is not a directive.

Please see my previous message regarding the few FCC violations issued for GMRS. There are almost zero, (actually just one for a stuck transmitter) and none pertaining to using Q codes. You guys must have way too much free time to worry about such nonsense. The FCC certainly has better things to do than police the GMRS airwaves for folks using Q codes, slang, or colloquialisms on the airwaves.
 

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Reading this thread got me confused, I thought this was our elected officials in Washington debating an important topic.
Yeah, maybe it's time to steer this thread back on topic: GMRS repeater linking and the FCC.
 

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He probably thinks all digital modes are "encrypted", and are thus illegal on the ham bands...
 

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Simply, "QSY" is still a non-10-code message/signal and it is not well known in the GMRS world or any other non-HAM and Miami Police Department worlds. Most GMRS enthusiasts are not HAMs. So what, that Miami Police Department and HAMs uses it that still doesn't make it widely used except in those two entities.

Hate to break it to you, but 10 codes are not standardized between departments, either. That's why usage of them is discouraged by most public safety agencies.

Just like the other people on this forum,

Ah, there we go.

"you" also don't know how to interpret the rules correctly.

But by some coincidence, you are the only individual on the board that knows how to do it "correctly". Even to the point of quoting FCC rules that do not exist. 95.1735.

Do it right or don't do it at all. It would be best that you stick to what you do better because this is not it.

Ahh, in other words, everyone has to agree with you, or they're not permitted to post. Got it. No discussion allowed.
 

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I suggest locking this thread until such time the FCC officially says anything about GMRS linking. Until then it is status quo, speculation, opinions, and arguments. Que es mas macho..
 
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