HAARP activation Sept 21st 2017

[KC4RAF]

Arthur, your above post about the scientist affirming HAARP causes hurricanes is FALSE!

FACT CHECK: Did Physicist Michio Kaku Say HAARP Caused Irma and Harvey?

Please post FACTS.

"Kaku never said that HAARP was responsible for hurricanes. YouTube videos espousing the conspiracy theory splice together misinformation about HAARP with an interview Kaku did with CBS News in 2013 in which he talked about the possibility of governments one day being able to cause rainfall using lasers and other means."

 

[mmckenna]

Did you look at the CBS video?NOPE!

I did, watched all those videos you posted. Doesn't support your opinion at all. Not sure how you are getting that out of what he's saying. I think you've already decided what you want to believe and will accept anything that supports that.

OK with me if that's the way you want to do things, but it doesn't make any of what you are saying a fact. Big difference between opinions and facts.

Whats that say down there? Top Scientist,not me,forget I said anything.
zz guy,I am still with the scientist on this...
Weather altering HF transmitter aka ionospheric heater.

He's pretty popular, he's done a few PBS shows. He works at the City College of New York.
He's pretty smart, but no where did he say HAARP was controlling the weather. It's the guy who narrates the video that's trying to steer things that way, and he does an awful job of it.

 

[KC4RAF]

See my post # 121 above.

 

[mmckenna]

It is not being scrapped either.It is now owned by a University and is back in operation.
How is it scrapped?
This is 2017,look at the link:

Turning on the aurora switch with HAARP | Juneau Empire - Alaska's Capital City Online Newspaper

If you listen to the video that you posted, the one with Senator Murkowski, she says it. That's in the video you posted, not me.
I know it wasn't scrapped, Univ. Alaska is running it. No argument.

I think you need to listen to these videos closely before you try to use them to back up your opinion.

A top scientist is a crackpot,come on now!

No, go back and read what I wrote, carefully and slowly. I was not referring to Dr. Michio Kaku.

I was referring to the guy who does the narration on that YouTube channel you keep referring us to. These are your sources, not ours. That guy, he's the crack pot.

And the Air force in the video explained the purpose.

Again, I agree, beaming energy into the ionosphere. How are you getting "weather control" out of that. None of your sources are supporting you, at all. Are you listening/reading this stuff before you post it?

 

[zz0468]

Did you look at the CBS video?

You've demonstrated a profound lack of understanding, why would I be interested in your sources?

 

[SCPD]

oh here we go again!

You've demonstrated a profound lack of understanding, why would I be interested in your sources?

I get you do not like my opinion, we have established that.
Please for the love of God, understand this is my opinion only.
If you don not believe me or the scientist or the air force or any other website or person then fine.
Fin-

 

[SCPD]

lol....... is that "Fin" as in "Finis?"
or "Fin- " as I am loosing it and can no longer spell or compose a coherent sentence ?.
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I hope you aren't going to throw in the towel now, Art ?
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Lauri

 

[SCPD]

I'm just done trying to get zz0468 to try and realize others have different opinions,but I still can't get zz0468 to get that yet.I hope before the day is over that happens.I realize he or she does not like mine on the subject of Haarp and that I feel its a weather modification device or once was.
I am not there I have not seen it lately so I have no idea what power they are putting out as of late.
Someone writing a top scientist is a crackpot is just disrespectful,not to me but to that guy.He would not be top scientist if he was a crackpot,I am sure! Surely the guy knows something about Physics.
The narrator? Yeah I am sure thats who you were referring to.Come on,who you kidding?

 

[prcguy]

Nobody seems to believe you and you have not provided any scientist or credible website or person that can be verified. Your not reading or understanding replies to your posts that point out misinformation in the links you provided, so you keep on believing the false information twisted in those links to sway people like you.

I'm now questioning my own sanity in replying to this senseless thread.
prcguy

I get you do not like my opinion, we have established that.
Please for the love of God, understand this is my opinion only.
If you don not believe me or the scientist or the air force or any other website or person then fine.
Fin-

 

[zz0468]

If you don not believe me or the scientist or the air force or any other website or person then fine.

I believe the Air Force. I believe the HAARP scientists.

I don't believe websites that take the Air Force or HAARP scientists out of context to fit some other predetermined meaning. It's garbage.

As long as you continue to spout garbage, people here will continue to refute it.

Fin-

I don't believe you.

 

[mmckenna]

I get you do not like my opinion, we have established that.
Please for the love of God, understand this is my opinion only.

We all understand it's your opinion.

If you don not believe me or the scientist or the air force or any other website or person then fine.

This website isn't one where you are likely to find people that are going to agree with your opinions.

As for the scientists and Air Force, I think everyone here agrees with them.

The disconnect, I believe (and here's where I get to give my opinion) is that you are not fully understanding what these scientists are saying. I'm OK if you don't understand what they are saying, most don't.

 

[zz0468]

I'm now questioning my own sanity in replying to this senseless thread.

As are the rest of us. Chalk it up to blood sport, and it doesn't seem so insane, just a bit primitive.

 

[SCPD]

Heres the video with NO narration.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKoWgMAESUY

Below: Ok,is this a normal cloud?

 

[zz0468]

Heres the video with NO narration.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKoWgMAESUY

We're STILL not interested in any of your sources. They've clearly not done you any good.

 

[SCPD]

I think there is a definite disconnect, and maybe more- though I hate to use the word delusional.
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At the outset, Arthur, there were plenty who were willing to accept you for your beliefs, but as you became more heated your support vanish'd.
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I, for one, will accept that you have a right to your opinions- but nothing else--- for I am a scientist - a PhD in Physics, an MS in electrical engineering-- I worked in HIPAS and did my dissertation in this VERY field-- and if I didn't have such a thick skin from dealing with pseudo-science crack pots, I might even be offended.... (well, not this Lauri.... I know the nut cases for what they are --enuff not to ever take it personal)
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But this is lively... and I have been getting a hoot out of all the attempts to set right what appears to be impossible, less the baseball bat referr'd to earlier ...
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..................CF

 

[SCPD]

yeah and.

I think there is a definite disconnect, and maybe more- though I hate to use the word delusional.
. At the outset, Arthur, there were plenty who were willing to accept you fro your beliefs, but as you became more heated your support vanish'd.
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I, for one, will accept that you have a right to your opinions- but nothing else--- for I am a scientist - a PhD in Physics, an MS in electrical engineering-- I worked in HIPAS and did my dissertation in this VERY field-- and if I didn't have such a thick skin from dealing with pseudo-science crack pots, I might even be offended....
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But this is lively... and I have been getting a hoot out of all the attempts to set right what appears to be impossible...
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..................CF

And your head of all my support? So I don't get any.boo-hoo.You have been on all day,I can see that!
Answer the question.
Does that look like a normal cloud?! Yes or no.
That couldn't possibly be created by a radio or other source in any way?
What is your opinion on the older gentleman Scientist's video on CBS-TV?

Haarp is kind of square looking like this cloud below.Nahhhhhhhh.
Looks perfect to me!

 

[mmckenna]

Heres the video with NO narration.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKoWgMAESUY

Still not helping. I sincerely believe at this point you don't know what he's talking about and trying to draw similarities. It's not working and it's not helping your case.

Below: Ok,is this a normal cloud?

Wave cloud, you can look it up on Google. I've seen that many times, long before HAARP was around.

Looks like an interesting photo and to someone who didn't know what it was, I could see where you might think it was something man made, but it isn't.

 

[SCPD]

And you know that how?
Still awaiting on all day onliner Coyote-frostbite's answer/response to my question.

 

[SCPD]

"And your head of all my support? So I don't get any.boo-hoo"
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???????
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Your cloud picture?.. com'on... anyone with a computer can generate something that looks like that.

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Finally--- The old scientist on TV??? Geeez-- do you have any idea of how many Ph.D's are a pint short of gallon?
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.Laughing
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...........................CF

 

[zz0468]

Haarp is kind of square looking like this cloud below.Nahhhhhhhh.
Looks perfect to me!

A Google image search of that picture does not link it to any credible websites, like NASA, or NWS. But there are plenty of appearances on sites like conspiracyanalyst.org, just to give one example.

Looks like a photoshop job to me.