Harrison County EDACS help

[nexus]

OK. I'll tell you all what I've found out so far. There are two systems in Harrison county. Both are ProVoice EDACS. One is Gulfport and the other is Biloxi. I have the correct LCN for the Gulfport system at the office. There are a few more frequencies that need to be added to the listed LCN in the database. I have not had the time to figure out Biloxi yet. I will post the rest of the Gulfport LCN when I get my notes from work. I have part of the Biloxi system. I will try to get over there and figure out the rest soon as I can. I assume that both systems have common talkgroups or something as I don't believe that they are simulcast. They are separate. As I find out more I'll let you know. By the way, the frequencies and licience numbers are on the FCC site and in Police call. I'll post them when I get home.

radiogirl, yes please do get the remaining frequencies for gulfport. I'm missing some calls. I've been spending 3 or 4 hours now listening to stuff with my scanner and a wideband receiver trying to piece together how it goes but its not working. So I'd really love to have the complete LCNs for harrison county.

You know, what you're saying clears something up for me now. While I was scanning through I happened to find another EDACS CC which was 10 times stronger than harrison's. And I scanned around and found PROVOICE traffic equally as strong, and knew I had come across another EDACS provoice TRS. Seeing how I live in Biloxi that would fully explain and confirm what you just said about Biloxi having their own. That would explain why I haven't heard any Biloxi FD either.

I guess Payne or someone pissed them off and they decided to just do their own thing. I really wish it wouldn't of been provoice though. sigh.

 

[INDY72]

Nexus, they are on the Harrison County TRS,.. its just a cell in Biloxi, I will be adding all the sites tonight.

 

[nexus]

Gotcha....

 

[INDY72]

Sorry, but I think I just made your job a LOT harder....One of the liscenses expires in 2005: WPQF823
This will be Long Beach, North Biloxi, and Saucier small cells...

They may iether be absorbed, or just let go, or renewed,.. but according to FCC data, everything that is on the DB is whats out there... you can verify whats running, and whats not pretty quickly.

 

[nexus]

Ok, well I'm a little confused at this point...

The only thing I have in my scanner are the (201) Confirmed LCNs (10). That is all that I am scanning in Trunk mode.

So what am I suppose to do with the rest of that stuff?

i.e. Biloxi-1, Gulfport-1, Gulfport-2, Saucier, Long Beach-2, North Biloxi-2

If you haven't noticed, I'm almost clueless when it comes to edacs. I'm pretty knowledgeable when it comes to motorola but this GE stuff just baffles me.

 

[INDY72]

To accurately monitor each site, you need to have individual cells programmed in, in proper LCN order.... the LCN's listed are for one of the Big cells. If you have a trunker with eneough empty banks, program in each of the cells your wishing to monitor. With the simulcast identical freq sites, all you have to do is get the right LCN's for one cell as they will all use the same LCN's. For the "stand alone" cells, you will have to figure out the LCN's for each cell. Click on each site and you will see what its simulcasting with. (IE-Gulfport-1, etc.)

 

[nexus]

ok you lost me....

so none of those freqs on the db are in LCN?

I'm almost clueless when it comes to edacs.

 

[INDY72]

The only one that is accurate as to LCN's are is the Confirmed LCN list,.. that is for only the big simulcast cell.. look at the freqs in it, and the ones listed for the big cells.... they are identical, but are in proper LCN order... Use one of the big cells as your base.... find the rest of the LCN's for it,.. and youll get most of the coms for the county..... but for the Biloxi cell, you will have to do it seperate and get its LCN's figured out. I have a feeling that all of Biloxi's ops are on that cell only, and county ops too, while the other cells are for all county ops, with maybe a few Biloxi ops TG's for interop.

 

[INDY72]

Being that the Biloxi Cell on liscense WPZI235 is not too big, it should be easy to get it down, or try its sister cells in GPort which has only 4 freqs.. and the GPort-Long Beach, and Lyman Cells of that liscense are identical.. 4 freqs.. the primary cell for Biloxi has only 9 freqs.

the other GPort cell on liscense WPUL244 is one of the HUGE cells with 18 freqs. That one is almost figured out in the Confirmed LCN's listing.

The tiny North Biloxi/Long Beach/Saucier cells on licsense WPQF823, are I believe the original TRS freqs as that one expires in 05.....

 

[radiogirl]

OK, this is the missing LCN order for the Gulfport end of Harrison county:LCN#11 866.8125;LCN#12 867.275;LCN#13 867.85;LCN#14 868.65;LCN#15 867.3375;LCN#16 867.7875;LCN#17 868.2625;LCN#18 867.85. This worked fine for me a couple of months ago when I last tried it on the coast while visiting a friend. I'm not sure if my explanation makes sense, but it appears as though the county (Harrison) has two separate EDACS systems for all county services( possibly east and west). I have part of Biloxi figured out, but need more analog traffic to finish it. The license for Harrison that expires in 2005 was for the S.O. to have some frequencies to use when the SMR provider they were using went belly-up. The S.O. was using those frequencies but are now switched over to the county EDACS system. I don't believe that S.O. is using the old frequencies (2005 expiration) anymore as I do not here anything on them anymore. Milf had asked about Hancock S.O.. To the best of my knowledge, they are still on VHF. However, there are plans to switch over to an 800 mhz trunked system in the future. Probably an EDACS ProVoice as Hancock is right in the middle between St Tammany and Harrison. They have to get the money first according to an article in the newspaper.

 

[INDY72]

I have serious doubts about them going EDACS..... but time will tell. As to the missing LCN's... Nexus, plug em in and see if they work. If so, I will update the DB to reflect it,.. and as soon as you get the Biloxi site figured will update it too...

 

[nexus]

OK, this is the missing LCN order for the Gulfport end of Harrison county:LCN#11 866.8125;LCN#12 867.275;LCN#13 867.85;LCN#14 868.65;LCN#15 867.3375;LCN#16 867.7875;LCN#17 868.2625;LCN#18 867.85. This worked fine for me a couple of months ago when I last tried it on the coast while visiting a friend. I'm not sure if my explanation makes sense, but it appears as though the county (Harrison) has two separate EDACS systems for all county services( possibly east and west). I have part of Biloxi figured out, but need more analog traffic to finish it. The license for Harrison that expires in 2005 was for the S.O. to have some frequencies to use when the SMR provider they were using went belly-up. The S.O. was using those frequencies but are now switched over to the county EDACS system. I don't believe that S.O. is using the old frequencies (2005 expiration) anymore as I do not here anything on them anymore. Milf had asked about Hancock S.O.. To the best of my knowledge, they are still on VHF. However, there are plans to switch over to an 800 mhz trunked system in the future. Probably an EDACS ProVoice as Hancock is right in the middle between St Tammany and Harrison. They have to get the money first according to an article in the newspaper.

Radiogirl you're awesome!!! Thank you!! THAT is exactly what I needed...

Milf, you need to add those additional LCN's to the DB if you haven't already, I can confirm it works. I'm no longer missing any conversations. It's following conversations into the newly posted LCNs.

 

[nexus]

Here is something additional for Harrison County...

The Harrison County Adult Detention Center is not using the EDACS system, however they are on 800mhz. Its a conventional repeater...

The output frequency for them is 853.7625 and it sounds good from Biloxi.
The ADC is located in Gulfport just east of the Hwy 49 exit right beyond the fence line of I-10. It can be seen from I-10.

 

[INDY72]

You guys need to do just a lil more homework on this.. how can LCN 13, and 18 be identical? I will put it in as such.. but I think iether 13 or 18 is not quite right yet... will look at all the freqs and see which is missing....

 

[INDY72]

found it: 867.1875 Now the fun part- is it LCN 13, or LCN 18?????

 

[INDY72]

OK I am going to insert it as LCN 13.. nexus you can tell me if it works,.. if not I can reverse it .

 

[INDY72]

OK basically the Gulfpot cell is figured out,.. now we need to get the LCN's for Biloxi's cell.

 

[INDY72]

Hey Nexus, hows it working out? Everything set right for the Gulfport Cell? And any luck on Biloxi yet?

 

[nexus]

I got tied up with work and other responsibilites, and haven't had time to go back to listening..

it also makes it difficult to do that when the only scanner i have capable of doing that is also the only one i have running the live online scanner.

 

[INDY72]

Understood. Whenever you have time to play with it.