I Need Help! I Need Information!

[qlajlu]

The beginning of a U.S. holiday weekend is very poor time to begin a project, but unfortunately I have made that mistake. The biggest problem is that the help I need is from our members that are traveling. I should have had this out there before everyone took off for the weekend in hopes that they could harvest some of this information during their travels. Oh, well.

Lindsay has ordered that all content in the Database, other than frequencies, TGs, and associated information, be moved to the Wiki. Articles like the 10-Codes and the statewide call signs need to be moved to the Wiki so they will not be lost when Lindsay drops the hammer. It's being called, "Collaboration" and you can find a Collaboration link by floating the mouse over the Wiki tab on the top blue ribbon on any page, or you will find it in the Database on the left side of any page near the top.

This is a labor-intensive undertaking since each and every line must be typed individually using the markup language in the Wiki to align the columns. Because of that, it is prone to inadvertent errors being introduced. Kudos to theaton for the tables he was able to create in the Database, but now I have taken it on myself to move those files to the RR Wiki. You can see what I have done so far here, here, and here.

During the process of moving these files, I have run into a couple of things that have made me question the accuracy of the information that theaton had to work with. I know for a fact that one town under the radio call sign identifiers was place in the wrong county and I have found a couple of others that were not correctly spelled. Again, this is a result of labor-intensive, line-by-line movement of information. One county (Daggett) has no information at all.

I have already set up each county in the Wiki with some basic information and this is what else I need:

1. What are the Call Signs for Daggett County?
2. In Beaver County, what town is 4V?
3. Are there any local call signs that do not conform to the state's list (i.e. Cache County, Box Elder County, and Davis County)?

Currently I'm moving the State Radio Call Sign Identifiers. I'm about half way through. Can anyone help me with the information I need? It would be much easier to put this in the first time than to go back in and edit the files because that requires realigning each entry.

 

[Rolfman]

Only editorial note I would have is for Tooele County. 6H units are actually North Tooele Fire

 

[qlajlu]

Thanks for the Correction

Only editorial note I would have is for Tooele County. 6H units are actually North Tooele Fire

Thank you, Rolfman. It is things like this I'm interested in getting fixed in the document(s).

By the way, everyone, you can bring these errors to my attention for correction, or you can log into the Wiki and correct them yourselves. I only ask that you don't mess with the formatting of the document. Then, again, that might be a good thing, too. I know there are members here that are much more adept at doing this kind of thing than I am. However, if you mess with the formatting in one place, you need to change it throughout to maintain consistency!

 

[N7YUO]

Help Identify new Summit Co Callsigns

Are there any local call signs that do not conform to the state's list (i.e. Cache County, Box Elder County, and Davis County)?

Summit Co. is using callsigns not conforming to the state list, including:
Alpha, Kay, (not kilo) Sierra, Tango, Yankee, & Zulu

Sunday, August 03, 2003 (yeah, that's six years ago)
Subject: Summit Co. Callsigns
"I was in Evanston for a car show and was momitoring the Hickey site from the park.
I kept hearing Yankee units and I believe Sierra or "s"unit or so.
Also I believe a Zulu all on 48000.
I know Park City uses 3K and dispatches their own on 48032 and 'K' units are S.O."

reply: "The new call signs are given out based on area/time, not an individual. They still have their normal call signs, but refer to the new designation when dispatching.
This was something the new sheriff put in place when he came on.
May have been to keep people from not taking calls."

OK, we should have some members with knowledge of the Summit County area who can help get some knowledge on this.

 

[N7YUO]

Daggett County Information

Date: Mon Sep 2, 2002
Subject: Road Trip to Flaming Gorge

We took a road trip to Flaming Gorge over the Labor Day weekend. The area was in Daggett County, UTAH, just over the border from Sweetwater County, WY. Near the town of Manila, UT. There are Utah State Park Rangers stationed at Lucerne Marina. Naturally, I had my scanners, (Three of them). Now, there isn't so many comms that I needed three scanners, but I was fishin' for frequencies. I entered all the freqs listed in Police Call, plus the usual 155.505, 155.745, 155.775, 155.28, 155,34, 155.16 etc. There was plenty of radio comms for such a remote area. This being due to Labor Day activities on the water and the Mountain Man Rendezvous at Fort Bridger. The frequency for Daggett County dispatch is 155.700. You can hear

Sheriff's (Delta's), UHP's (Numbers), DWR (One-Alpha's), and Rangers (Two-Alphas). They're all on the same freq.

Marine channels were busy, but no serious incidents, just minor infractions like going too fast in the no-wake-zone. I plugged frequencies into one scanner while I searched for more with another. I found good reception on 155.430. The dispatch and comms were around Kemmerer, WY, about 100 miles north! It received well in Manila, but not near the water. Anyway, here's a list of the freqs that I found active:

155.700 Daggett Dispatch (repeats 155.715)
155.505 Statewide
155.745 UHP Car to car
155.775 DWR Car to Car
155.280 HEAR System
155.340 HEAR System
155.160 National SAR
154.740
155.415 Sweetwater County, WY repeater
155.430 Dispatch out of Kemmerer, WY
154.950 Sweetwater County, WY
156.800 MC-16 Marine distress & calling
156.015 Repeater for Daggett Co
155.040 Control Stations
158.760 Mobiles

 

[N7YUO]

Local (non-state) callsigns

Are there any local call signs that do not conform to the state's list?

Ogden City uses Mary, Lincoln, etc
All of Davis Co except Bountiful which is Two-Gee (2G)
All of Salt Lake County
Summit County, Daggett County

 

[qlajlu]

Summit Co. is using callsigns not conforming to the state list, including: Alpha, Kay, (not kilo) Sierra, Tango, Yankee, & Zulu...I know Park City uses 3K and dispatches their own on 48032 and 'K' units are S.O."

OK, we should have some members with knowledge of the Summit County area who can help get some knowledge on this.

The units using "K" call signs are conforming to the state's radio call identifiers for Summit County. I need to know specifically who Sierra, Tango, Yankee, and Zulu are. Those using Alpha might be Wildlife Resources (1A units) or Parks and Recreation (2A units), Kay is actually Kilo but they are just saying the letter rather than the phonetic name.

Date: Mon Sep 2, 2002
Subject: Road Trip to Flaming Gorge

We took a road trip to Flaming Gorge over the Labor Day weekend. The area was in Daggett County, UTAH, just over the border from Sweetwater County, WY. Near the town of Manila, UT.

The frequency for Daggett County dispatch is 155.700. You can hear Sheriff's (Delta's), UHP's (Numbers), DWR (One-Alpha's), and Rangers (Two-Alphas). They're all on the same freq.

Unfortunately, this does NOT tell me how Daggett County falls into the the state's radio identifiers scheme of things. What is their state radio identifier? Daggett County was left out of the orginal document found here.

Ogden City uses Mary, Lincoln, etc
All of Davis Co except Bountiful which is Two-Gee (2G)
All of Salt Lake County
Summit County, Daggett County

This information does NOT help me. I am attempting to build a file that a member may access and use to identify specific agencies by the call sign that was used. Telling me they do not conform without giving me specific examples leaves me with nothing to post in the Wiki.

Please examine the Utah Collaboration to see what is already available.

 

[LGLHOOK]

I just talked to my buddy who is friends with one of the higher up's in Summit County. I asked him to find out on the designators of TG 48000 (Summit SO/UHP). He told me that all designators are shift based (i.e Yankee units are XX shift, Zulu units are XX shift, etc.) He is up there camping for the weekend but wrote down all the designators for me and I will post them as soon as I get them from him this week.

 

[qlajlu]

I just talked to my buddy who is friends with one of the higher up's in Summit County. I asked him to find out on the designators of TG 48000 (Summit SO/UHP). He told me that all designators are shift based (i.e Yankee units are XX shift, Zulu units are XX shift, etc.) He is up there camping for the weekend but wrote down all the designators for me and I will post them as soon as I get them from him this week.

Perfect. That is what I'm looking for.

Now, anything on Daggett County? Anything at all? Anyone?

 

[n7vvw]

I have Daggett County as 11N, with 12N for Manilla, and 13N for Dutch John City. This is from a booklet issued by DPS on June 1, 1978

 

[qlajlu]

I have Daggett County as 11N, with 12N for Manilla, and 13N for Dutch John City. This is from a booklet issued by DPS on June 1, 1978

Thank you, Steve. That is exactly what I have been looking/waiting for. Now I need to go back in and do a bunch of changing to make the table look presentable, but that is okay.

 

[wbloss]

Thanks for digging into this.
Getting back to the earlier part of this Post - the 1D thru 10D as shown in the WIki here:
Utah State Agency Radio Call Identifiers - The RadioReference Wiki are not in fact what is in use.
Maybe its valuable to see what is assigned, but the page here: Codes List: Cache County Unit Codes aka

Delta - Cache Co. Sheriff
Sierra - Logan PD
Tango - North Park PD
Zulu - Smithfield PD

ARE in fact what are used day-to-day.

Thanks
W

 

[qlajlu]

Thanks for digging into this.
Getting back to the earlier part of this Post - the 1D thru 10D as shown in the WIki here:
Utah State Agency Radio Call Identifiers - The RadioReference Wiki are not in fact what is in use.
Maybe its valuable to see what is assigned, but the page here: Codes List: Cache County Unit Codes aka

Delta - Cache Co. Sheriff
Sierra - Logan PD
Tango - North Park PD
Zulu - Smithfield PD

ARE in fact what are used day-to-day.

Thanks
W

Wally, if you would hoover your mouse over the Wiki tab in the top blue ribbon and then click on Collaboration to follow the link to the Collaboration Gateway, look for Utah (US) and click. There you will see Utah Counties. Click on that and find Cache County. I think you will see I'm one step ahead of you at this point. I haven't migrated the fire depts yet, but it is on my list. In case you get lost here is a direct link.

 

[wbloss]

Wally, if you would hoover your mouse over the Wiki tab in the top blue ribbon and then click on Collaboration to follow the link to the Collaboration Gateway, look for Utah (US) and click. There you will see Utah Counties. Click on that and find Cache County. I think you will see I'm one step ahead of you at this point. I haven't migrated the fire depts yet, but it is on my list. In case you get lost here is a direct link.

You are WAY ahead of me! I had not thought to look for it that way. I was thinking it would show up on the Collaborate under Cache County. When you look that way you get this: Cache County, Utah (UT) Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference - I wonder if there is a way to link these pages??

Thanks again

W

 

[ka3jjz]

The wiki and database are linked on that very page - click on the 'wiki' link in the collaboration section of the database and see where you go. 73 Mike

 

[qlajlu]

The wiki and database are linked on that very page - click on the 'wiki' link in the collaboration section of the database and see where you go. 73 Mike

What Mike says!

Wally, if you follow the link you provided and click on "Cache County Wiki Page" (in blue print) near the bottom of the page, you will be taken to the exactly the same place as before.

You can even add content to the Wiki pages yourself. Just don't mess up my formatting too badly. :lol:

 

[theaton]

Daggett County

Great job qlajlu! I was hoping someone would tackle this task and I was meaning to suggest it but never did. I'm afraid I have no additional information to share, as I only posted a list I found online somewhere.

N7YOU, I'm interested in updating the Daggett County listings. My scanning there has been brief, and 156.015 was the only repeater I ever confirmed. I'm intregued by a 155.700 repeater in Daggett. Not to be skeptical, but are you sure you weren't picking up Logan Peak (which can be heard across much of western Wyoming)? Do you have a tone and input frequency for it? Also, what is the HEAR system and how is it used? Anything you can provide for submission to the DB would be appreciated.

-Tim

Date: Mon Sep 2, 2002
Subject: Road Trip to Flaming Gorge

We took a road trip to Flaming Gorge over the Labor Day weekend. The area was in Daggett County, UTAH, just over the border from Sweetwater County, WY. Near the town of Manila, UT. There are Utah State Park Rangers stationed at Lucerne Marina. Naturally, I had my scanners, (Three of them). Now, there isn't so many comms that I needed three scanners, but I was fishin' for frequencies. I entered all the freqs listed in Police Call, plus the usual 155.505, 155.745, 155.775, 155.28, 155,34, 155.16 etc. There was plenty of radio comms for such a remote area. This being due to Labor Day activities on the water and the Mountain Man Rendezvous at Fort Bridger. The frequency for Daggett County dispatch is 155.700. You can hear

Sheriff's (Delta's), UHP's (Numbers), DWR (One-Alpha's), and Rangers (Two-Alphas). They're all on the same freq.

Marine channels were busy, but no serious incidents, just minor infractions like going too fast in the no-wake-zone. I plugged frequencies into one scanner while I searched for more with another. I found good reception on 155.430. The dispatch and comms were around Kemmerer, WY, about 100 miles north! It received well in Manila, but not near the water. Anyway, here's a list of the freqs that I found active:

155.700 Daggett Dispatch (repeats 155.715)
155.505 Statewide
155.745 UHP Car to car
155.775 DWR Car to Car
155.280 HEAR System
155.340 HEAR System
155.160 National SAR
154.740
155.415 Sweetwater County, WY repeater
155.430 Dispatch out of Kemmerer, WY
154.950 Sweetwater County, WY
156.800 MC-16 Marine distress & calling
156.015 Repeater for Daggett Co
155.040 Control Stations
158.760 Mobiles

 

[Junior1970]

I have already set up each county in the Wiki with some basic information and this is what else I need:

1. In Beaver County, what town is 4V?

1. 
   
   4V is Minersville
   
   Also in Washington County the following is missing:
   11X -Diamond valley
   12X - Ivins
   13X - Dammerron Valley
   14X - Pine Valley
   15X - Leeds
   16X - Veyo
   17X - Central/Brookside
   18X - New Harmony
   
   Also is Juab County the following is missing:
   6O (6 Oscar) - Rocky Ridge
   
   Hope this helps.

 

[qlajlu]

Thank You

Thank you, Junior. Yes, it really helps a bunch. I rather thought that 4V was Minersville, but without knowing for sure I didn't want to put it in.

I'll also add the others you have supplied. The way that Wiki markup language is set up for making tables, it'll take some time to enter these. I have to realign what entries are in each column and will probably end up just re-entering the entire thing...about four hours of work. BUT! ...I want it presentable for easily looking up information, so I don't mind when I get good solid information.

Again, thanks.

 

[LGLHOOK]

qlajlu,
I tried to help in the West Valley section with call signs, but I don't know what the heck happened maybe you can let me in on your seceret of I can just post them in this forum.
PS. Under the Salt Lake Count SO, I found out that the "Juliet" units are Jail Perimeter units.