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K0MSM

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I made an initial reply to this thread back in 2011. Since then I moved back to Delaware for a little while, and we came back to Iowa in December of 2021. I'm up in Dana, in Greene County - the land of no trunked radio systems, it seems. I was listening to the local stuff on my Pro-197, but was frustrated that I couldn't listen to the trunked side, so I finally sprung for an SDS200. Love the scanner - but apparently, I wasn't missing much on the trunked side! Haven't picked up the first thing, and to be honest, it doesn't seem like there's much on ISICS out here anyway. Perhaps I'm just missing something, though. I figured at least I'd be able to find and listen to the State Patrol.

Being 2 blocks from the Tara subdivision on the UP, and with a UP tower right here in Dana, it's pretty darn easy to listen to trains. By far, that would be the busiest group of frequencies on the scanner. I have 3 now: the SDS200 is set aside for public safety; the Pro-197 will be for air & rail, and my old Pro-2096 is feeding the Greene County Fire Dispatch on Broadcastify.

Anyway, finally getting back into the forums - looking forward to seeing what everyone else is up to!

Sean - K0MSM
 

mws72

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Here in the Quad-Cities we have three statewide trunked systems to listen to. ISICS for Iowa, Starcom21 for Illinois and SARA for the metro area.
While SARA is smoking at least till the E switch is thrown. ISICS and Starcom are pretty quiet comparative.
The RACOM system here is shutting down at Noon today.
 

K0MSM

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I was wondering why I suddenly couldn't find any information on RACOM in the database! That's part of why I got the SDS200 - to be able to get the traffic on the RACOM system. I've got the ISICS programmed in, but out here in Greene County, there's (apparently) no tower in the county, and nobody is using it. Seems like the only tower I'm getting traffic from is the Woodware/Ames site.
 

thatoneiowan

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I was wondering why I suddenly couldn't find any information on RACOM in the database! That's part of why I got the SDS200 - to be able to get the traffic on the RACOM system. I've got the ISICS programmed in, but out here in Greene County, there's (apparently) no tower in the county, and nobody is using it. Seems like the only tower I'm getting traffic from is the Woodware/Ames site.

I pick up Greene County law dispatch on that site over in Huxley
 

K0MSM

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On the ISICS system? I didn't see anything on there for Greene County Sheriff, and I'm still listening to them on VHF. Or do you mean ISP? FOr them, all I've been able to find them on is the Woodward/Huxley site.
 

bgtalkingdog

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I have an SDS100 and listen mostly to Clinton county police and fire on ISICS. Occasionally I tune in the Thomson, IL federal prison which uses P25 on their own 400 MHz system. Just over a week ago I caught the Iowa State Patrol running an aircraft assisted speed trap along Interstate 80 at Bettendorf, something I'd never heard on a scanner before. They caught a driver going 93 in a 65. Audio is in the link above.
 

Cashanova48

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Hello from Fayette County

I am fairly green to radio. Using all Handhelds and HT's for First Responder scanning of Fayette County and Delaware County as well as CB and amateur radio scanning. Planning to start a feed for Independence public works.
 

Cashanova48

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Not too sure, I'll have to check that. I haven't heard much recently but... There is a link in the Wiki for Fayette County that has Fire and EMS paging and is appears to still be being updated.
 

randyh57

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Last i heard of them was 154.055 FMN mode so they must be switching.. Cant hit that Tower from here. Live in a unfriendly dead zone valley area here ne@ Decorah. But good luck and have fun with the hobby. About everyone is switching to Project 25 Phase II and many are using secure.
 

Cashanova48

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Last i heard of them was 154.055 FMN mode so they must be switching.. Cant hit that Tower from here. Live in a unfriendly dead zone valley area here ne@ Decorah. But good luck and have fun with the hobby. About everyone is switching to Project 25 Phase II and many are using secure.
I was able to hear the Olwien tower fire paging yesterday, so I guess they are still on analog or paging is still analog.
 

CyBuzz73

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I am from the Des Moines area. I got a SDS100 for christmas and am looking for help on programming. I listen to channels on Broadcastify and want to set up some favorites to mimic those channels. I am also trying to learn the important features of the SDS100 to make it easier to use. I am also trying to figure out all the different stuff(simulcast, Channels, Departments, etc.) that goes along with the broadcasts. I generally listen to PD, Fire, EMS and county stuff.I hope to get good enough that I can travel with the scanner and program on the fly. any help is more than welcome.

Jeff(CyBuzz73)
 

thatoneiowan

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I am from the Des Moines area. I got a SDS100 for christmas and am looking for help on programming. I listen to channels on Broadcastify and want to set up some favorites to mimic those channels. I am also trying to learn the important features of the SDS100 to make it easier to use. I am also trying to figure out all the different stuff(simulcast, Channels, Departments, etc.) that goes along with the broadcasts. I generally listen to PD, Fire, EMS and county stuff.I hope to get good enough that I can travel with the scanner and program on the fly. any help is more than welcome.

Jeff(CyBuzz73)

these should get you towards a good starting point with the basics

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trunking: channels/talkgroups on a system use a set of frequencies that each tower send out
conventional: one frequency per channel (think FM radio in your car, weather radio, walkie talkies)

encryption: some DEPARTMENTS are entirely encrypted, some CHANNELS within a DEPARTMENT are encrypted, this depends on the agency preference. database will show DE, De, TE, or Te to mark encryption full time (capital E) or part time (lowercase E, could be nearly 100pct, could be nearly 0, could vary day to day). no scanner is capable of decoding encryption. the only way around this is to have a public safety radio with the encryption key programmed in. as you read on you might be able to figure out why the troopers can't hear any law enforcement transmissions from Polk county because of this. (DPS is on ISICS, Polk County is on SARA and law is largely encrypted).

an overly basic explanation of how the systems work for trunking....

SYSTEM is the entire radio setup. Iowa has ISICS and SARA primarily.

ISICS is the state ran system, Des Moines PD, Westcom (WDM, Urbandale, Clive, Waukee, Norwalk, Windsor Heights dispatch) are on ISICS. Towers maintained by the state

Polk County (sheriff and Ankeny, Altoona, Polk City, Mitchellville Police/Fire, saylor twp fire, etc) are on SARA. System managed by RACOM Corporation

DEPARTMENT is the entity on the SYSTEM. For example, I believe City of Des Moines is the DEPARTMENT for all of their CHANNELS (Police 1/2/3 etc, streets dept, trash dept water Dept etc). WDM is a different DEPARTMENT, police/fire/schools etc would have their CHANNELS.

CHANNELS are the individual talk groups these DEPARTMENTS use. WDM school bus gets a channel, Des Moines traffic engineers have a channel, state patrol has a channel (technically several), the CHANNELS available typically depends on the individual DEPARTMENT to assign what they need.

you don't need to worry about simulcast with the sds100 but essentially it is when multiple towers operate on the same frequencies at the same time and potentially jumbles transmissions for receivers not designed to interpret these signals coming from multiple towers (there's just barely enough of a delay, a split second, where the scanner freaks out. today's professional radios are built to work with this, the sds100/200 do a good job with it too).

programming.......two major ways to do this.

one, favorites lists. you decide which systems, departments, channels to listen for on a one by one basis. easiest to do with software. uniden released free software called Sentinel, I use Proscan, some people use Butel's ARC software. a radio reference/broadcastify premium subscription lets you import the data from radio reference to Proscan in which you can send the data to the scanner via USB (the sds200 also has an Ethernet port for this). as you get familiar with what you are listening to, what you want to hear that you aren't, and what you are hearing that you don't want to, this will be the ideal way in my opinion.

two....... zip code and service types. before you do this, update your master database using Sentinel software from uniden. if you just wanna hear stuff, put in your zip code and go to settings to enable and disable service types. the service types are dictated by what the radio reference database shows. this should give you enough leeway to hear some stuff but will also scan things you probably don't care about so there is potential for missing transmissions.

the nice part about favorites lists is you can set them up however you want. I prefer one list for ISICS and one for SARA and avoid channels I don't care about (next county over public safety, the landfill, etc). Some people go further and have lists for each county.
 

CyBuzz73

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Thank you for the detailed reply. I have read through the easier to read user manual, that was perfect. I also have been putting together favorites lists in Sentinel. It wasn't until i figure out the location control thing that I got a better result.

I am trying to replicate the bradcastify broadcasts for Des Moines Police Dispatch, Westcom Fire and EMS Dispatch, Westcom Police Dispatch and Polk County, Dallas County, and Warren County Public Safety and ISP. I got the Westcom ones done with the broadcastify information. The DSMPD one didnt line up for me but I think I have some of it. The Polk County, Dallas County, and Warren County Public Safety and ISP is a LONG list of channels that I am working on programming into a favorites.
I think I still have a lot to learn but am getting there slowly. The one thing that I cant quite figure out yet is why when I add something to favorites in Sentinel, it adds a bunch of counties for Iowa that just have frequencies.

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I might check out the other softwares. I run Linux on my computer so getting them working is a challenge itself. I will stick with sentinel for now.


Again, thank you for your detailed response. I look forward to learning more about the hobby.
 

thatoneiowan

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the counties with frequencies are the sites/towers I don't think there is a way to not import them but I can't remember. either delete them or avoid them

please continue to ask questions, people freak out and tell you to Google it ignore them not a good way to treat newbies to a hobby. glad I can help

not sure what all they put out on broadcastify. law talk law tac aren't allowed so dmpd channel might just be primary dispatch channel 1? no idea. one thing you may be curious in trying is combining toggling service types with your favorite lists. maybe toggle off the service types broadcastify doesn't allow. if you're happy with what you hear then great. if not now you have your own scanner and can tweak it.

here are the limits I pulled from broadcastify broadcast application

Law Enforcement Feeds
I agree to ONLY broadcast routine dispatch and special events channels and talkgroups for law enforcement agencies.
I agree to NOT broadcast dedicated tactical, car-to-car, NCIC/Records, SWAT, narcotics, detectives or any other channels or talkgroups that are not routine dispatch or special events related.
Fire / EMS / Rescue Feeds
I agree to ONLY broadcast routine dispatch operations and fireground / on scene operations for fire, EMS, and rescue agencies.
I agree to NOT broadcast dedicated channels or talkgroups used for ambulance to hospital communications.
I agree to NOT broadcast dedicated channels or talkgroups related to investigations, arson, and fire marshal activities.
 
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