Jammers

[NDRADIONUT]

11m is much more civil...

 

[SCPD]

... Had one guy refuse to identify and argue with me ...

You fed the troll.

Jammers and that sort of thing are very few and far apart on our local repeater. Everyone pretty much goes by the philosophy that you make the troll think his radio is not working. It can sometimes be difficult to not acknowledge them, or ask them to leave. But coming back to them, talking back, gives them the chubby they are looking for. We will just keep talking like the jammer's radio don't work. And honestly it don't take long for them to go away.

 

[DaveNF2G]

There are other, albeit more challenging, ways of bringing down governmental power on jammers' heads.

If the jammer is in your state, then try swearing out a complaint of aggravated harassment (or whatever the equivalent criminal offense is in your state). If the jammer is in a different state, try complaining to the FBI if the FCC doesn't respond adequately.

Both courses of action presume, of course, that you have positively identified the jammer and can give law enforcement at least enough evidence to meet the probable cause threshold.

 

[Project25_MASTR]

There are other, albeit more challenging, ways of bringing down governmental power on jammers' heads.

If the jammer is in your state, then try swearing out a complaint of aggravated harassment (or whatever the equivalent criminal offense is in your state). If the jammer is in a different state, try complaining to the FBI if the FCC doesn't respond adequately.

Both courses of action presume, of course, that you have positively identified the jammer and can give law enforcement at least enough evidence to meet the probable cause threshold.

Reminds me of an incident in San Antonio a few years ago...

 

[TheSpaceMann]

The cheap Baofengs are creating too many unlicensed operators. Just look at what those clowns do to the 435 repeater in California.

 

[ecps92]

IT has been occurring LONG before the advent of the CCR, can't blame it on them :roll:

The cheap Baofengs are creating too many unlicensed operators. Just look at what those clowns do to the 435 repeater in California.

 

[TheSpaceMann]

IT has been occurring LONG before the advent of the CCR, can't blame it on them :roll:

Maybe not, but since those cheap Baofeng radios have become widely available, it seems to have gotten a lot worse!

 

[SCPD]

I have to agree with spacemann. They are sold dime a dozen on tons of websites and I even seen them in kids walkie talkie sections of few sites. They were designed cheap for licensed beginner a mature operators. But since it made money nobody cared and sells it. I remember when you use to have to present a license to purchase a transceiver. It doesn't help either some places are selling them part of as the paranoid man's bug out bag kit or emergency communication in a storm thing. It also doesn't help it says you csn listen to police and fire along with get help now stuff.

 

[ecps92]

It is the Entitled Mentality of todays generation

Maybe not, but since those cheap Baofeng radios have become widely available, it seems to have gotten a lot worse!

 

[antimatt3r]

lololol sorry to say I am one of the guys that ordered a $2 baofeng off ebay and bam im up and on your repeaterz, not jamming though nothing malicious, i should get my license though, do they check for warrants when you go to get your ham license lmao

Sadly, the FCC thinks that even if you give them a videotape of the offender in action, and have two cardinals, to Senators, and a Mother Superior all sign off as witnesses and complainants, they still have no obligation to do anything. They're too busy selling billion dollar airwave auctions.

There is of course an obscure but well-established legal way to compel action, by having a federal judge issue a "writ of mandamus" that basically says "Hey, this is your legal duty, and if you don't perform it, I'm gonna issue arrest warrants and put you in jail to think it over." And the ARRL has actually considered that route but declined to pursue it for a number of reasons. (Including the fact that it tends to be hard to find a cantankerous federal judge, and it tends to really piss off politicians.)

Bottom line, if you have a jammer problem? You have a jammer problem.

 

[W9NES]

We have been told" Ignore them and they will go away"

 

[TheSpaceMann]

lololol sorry to say I am one of the guys that ordered a $2 baofeng off ebay and bam im up and on your repeaterz, not jamming though nothing malicious, i should get my license though, do they check for warrants when you go to get your ham license lmao

Are you one of the guys who cause havoc on the 435 repeater?

 

[antimatt3r]

no no I am out in Ohio and I wouldn't do something like that anyway

 

[DaveNF2G]

lololol sorry to say I am one of the guys that ordered a $2 baofeng off ebay and bam im up and on your repeaterz, not jamming though nothing malicious, i should get my license though, do they check for warrants when you go to get your ham license lmao

There are no background checks for a ham license, BUT the FCC can deny a license application (in any service) or pull a license if someone is convicted of a crime. It has to be the type of offense that triggers their "character" standard for licensees.

 

[ecps92]

Too bad they don't run State/Local/Federal checks :twisted:

There are no background checks for a ham license, BUT the FCC can deny a license application (in any service) or pull a license if someone is convicted of a crime. It has to be the type of offense that triggers their "character" standard for licensees.

 

[fleef]

this says it all

Sadly, the FCC thinks that even if you give them a videotape of the offender in action, and have two cardinals, to Senators, and a Mother Superior all sign off as witnesses and complainants, they still have no obligation to do anything. They're too busy selling billion dollar airwave auctions.

There is of course an obscure but well-established legal way to compel action, by having a federal judge issue a "writ of mandamus" that basically says "Hey, this is your legal duty, and if you don't perform it, I'm gonna issue arrest warrants and put you in jail to think it over." And the ARRL has actually considered that route but declined to pursue it for a number of reasons. (Including the fact that it tends to be hard to find a cantankerous federal judge, and it tends to really piss off politicians.)

Bottom line, if you have a jammer problem? You have a jammer problem.

sorry for clogging up the database I just wanted to second this

 

[antimatt3r]

Too bad they don't run State/Local/Federal checks :twisted:

yeah too bad were not living in nazi germany and u have to present your papers for everything give me a break hitler lol
yeah never mind peoples right to a level of privacy, the constitution, and lets just have the govt with their nose in EVERYTHING sounds awesome!!!!

 

[TheSpaceMann]

Too bad they don't run State/Local/Federal checks :twisted:

I'm sure that most of the criminals won't bother getting a ham license. Why bother, when they can easily buy just about every type of radio equipment that they might need?

 

[mikewazowski]

I think we're done here.

When somebody feels the need to break out the Hitler references, you know it isn't worth keeping the thread open any longer.

 

[mule1075]

I think we're done here.

When somebody feels the need to break out the Hitler references, you know it isn't worth keeping the thread open any longer.

Yes indeed.

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