Kinnelon System

[GTR8000]

You know this how?

Why do you keep arguing about this system with @RocketNJ ? Some people around here actually do know what they're talking about and have extensive experience in the field, believe it or not.

 

[RocketNJ]

I know this because there is other equipment at the site in addition to Kinnelon and I was directly involved with antenna placement on the tank.
The antennas on top of the tank are NOT Kinnelon's. Please don't question me on this.

It is not the black tank you see when driving up to Kinnelon from Boonton. I am talking about their furthest east site which is in the development right up above the ridge just west of 287 as you drive through Kinnelon.

 

[RocketNJ]

I know this because there is other equipment at the site in addition to Kinnelon and I was directly involved with antenna placement on the tank.
The antennas on top of the tank are NOT Kinnelon's. Please don't question me on this.

It is not the black tank you see when driving up to Kinnelon from Boonton. I am talking about their furthest east site which is in the development right up above the ridge just west of 287 as you drive through Kinnelon.

And to add one more thing, the coax used is not the best choice for UHF.

 

[K2NEC]

I know exactly what site you are talking about because I've been to the site before. There are antennas on top of the water tower that would have coverage east actually. Otherwise, I didn't see any antennas on the side of the water tower.

How would one send a PM to @GTR8000 ?
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[RocketNJ]

The antennas you show are a quad exposed dipole and a tri exposed dipole, both of which are County antennas. The Kinnelon antennas are mounted on the side of the water tank on the ladder going up the tank, not in view in your picture. Also the County antennas use 1 5/8" cables and 7/8" cables which Kinnelon uses combo of 9913 and 1/2".

 

[Salvatorejrc]

@K2NEC Lincoln Rd site was unsuccessful, thanks for the suggestion though.

 

[RocketNJ]

I decided to retest Kinnelon from Pompton Plains on my SDS200 today. I loaded all sites.

Denise Drive, 453.5125 is coming in and perfectly readable on an indoor unity gain UHF antenna. (not the telescopic antenna). So from the last time I tried to monitor their system to now, I can now hear them. Same setup about a year ago was no-go so maybe they had a bad antenna or cable at Denise that was repaired?

Sal, try Denise Drive, 453.5125. You can use Sentinel to load Kinnelon from Radio Reference then lockout the sites except Denise. If you need help loading your scanner PM me direct.

Dave, I stand corrected. Now Kinnelon has better coverage east then it did a year ago. A year ago they were unable to be copied in Pompton Plains from any site.

 

[K2NEC]

I decided to retest Kinnelon from Pompton Plains on my SDS200 today. I loaded all sites.

Denise Drive, 453.5125 is coming in and perfectly readable on an indoor unity gain UHF antenna. (not the telescopic antenna). So from the last time I tried to monitor their system to now, I can now hear them. Same setup about a year ago was no-go so maybe they had a bad antenna or cable at Denise that was repaired?

Sal, try Denise Drive, 453.5125. You can use Sentinel to load Kinnelon from Radio Reference then lockout the sites except Denise. If you need help loading your scanner PM me direct.

Dave, I stand corrected. Now Kinnelon has better coverage east then it did a year ago. A year ago they were unable to be copied in Pompton Plains from any site.

Believe it or not there are spots outside of town that I can reach the Kinnelon system better than I can our PD repeater. Lincoln Road has fantastic coverage to the north and east and even when I was down in Denville I was able to pick them up. I'm not sure what you were experiencing beforehand but if you say it's better now, it's possible something changed. I found the antennas you were referencing and was getting a -35 db on them so they are definitely the ones. Maybe you can see if something changed on them since last you saw.

 

[Salvatorejrc]

@RocketNJ
I successfully received from the Elizabeth site just now.

I've been up Elizabeth Dr. but I've never actually seen the site, do you know exactly where it is?

 

[K2NEC]

Funny enough, the repeater is located in a cabinet on the side of the road at the end of Elizabeth drive.

 

[slingshot202]

Interesting, I might just be to far in Essex County, but never hear them. I have the SDS200 with DMR. I have DMR in my truck, I should put them in there for when I ride north on 287.

 

[NParkNJ]

Interesting, I might just be to far in Essex County, but never hear them. I have the SDS200 with DMR. I have DMR in my truck, I should put them in there for when I ride north on 287.

plenty more to listen to with DMR up here now.
Pequannock, and also Bloomingdale are DMR. I suggest popping them in as just the frequency and CC. Works perfectly for me on my 996p2.

 

[slingshot202]

I am in Essex County - I have them in, but I have not heard Bloomingdale. I do listen to Pequannock and Rockaway Twsp. I will try doing just the CC and see if I catch them.

 

[K2NEC]

Don't bother trying to listen to bloomingdale. They truly don't have out of town coverage. (They barely have in town coverage )

 

[slingshot202]

LOL - that explains that! I hear them on VHF or UHF, I forget, but I have had nothing on DMR.

 

[NParkNJ]

Don't bother trying to listen to bloomingdale. They truly don't have out of town coverage. (They barely have in town coverage )

compared to pequannock, definitely not. I can hear them in Ringwood and only Wanaque and parts of Pompton. Other than that, I don't think so....

 

[RocketNJ]

Bloomingdale is located in a valley and the hill in Kinnelon blocks coverage south.

 

[K2NEC]

And the sites aren't exactly in great locations

 

[RocketNJ]

When they were on low band the sites were fine. Now they need HAAT (height above average terrain).