benjaminfs733
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.....And all of us in Kentucky already knew those frequencies. The great wealth of information gained is in the 800 Mhz frequencies and how the whole system is set up, all of that is new.
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mastr
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unitcharlie - my comment was intended for your benefit - a license database search on those two frequencies should quickly reveal the 96 UHF and 22 VHF sites you are looking for.
benjaminfs733... I'll mind my own business from now on, and try my best to remember that everybody in the state already knows all about the system that I'm charged with keeping up and running day in and day out. Replies such as yours make me wonder why I bother dropping in here at all.
benjaminfs733... I'll mind my own business from now on, and try my best to remember that everybody in the state already knows all about the system that I'm charged with keeping up and running day in and day out. Replies such as yours make me wonder why I bother dropping in here at all.
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unitcharlie
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I saw that Mastr.... it has just been a long couple of weeks sifting thru all the other stuff..... but the pain is gonna be figuring out which of the sites listed is "THE" site.... I know each KSP Post has the old inter-city licenses but the trick is gonna be keeping the rest of them in order because there are so many of the KLEEN licenses to other agencies.... I have the list of participating agencies and will be scrubbing the db against that list as i type them all in.... I just hope no one minds if some of the entries are incomplete as I build the page.... this has been an adventure!
benjaminfs733
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mastr,
Apologies, my uninformed arrogance is apparent (see your PM). --Ben
Apologies, my uninformed arrogance is apparent (see your PM). --Ben
ShawnCowden
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well will voice be both analog and digital ?? Which most of ?
unitcharlie
a Kentucky DB Admin...
According to the info I have read the system is Conventional Analog with transmissions in plain English.... this system is really far-flung from lone side to the other.... For the Commonwealth this is the best system that can be put in place given the many different types of radio gear in place already. Kentucky has a pretty good statewide system in the KSP 400 MHz set-up they use, it is augmented by the other additions turning it into a system that will work well if needed....
unitcharlie
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NEW INFO:
One of our members sent me the following link to a news release about Kentucky Mutual Aid Inititive..... http://www.techlines.ky.gov/2006/nov/mutual_aid.htm
Marshall, if you get the chance it might be time to correct the name of this thread to what it really is: Kentucky Mutual Aid and Interoperability Initiative
thanx
GREETINGS ALL:
My fingers ache and my eyes are crossed.. but the KYWINS info is entered in one of the three sections-the 150 meg and 450 meg sections are arranged by KSP Post; the 800 meg section is listed by tx site... if need be I can list those under their respective KSP Posts if that will make it easier to figure out where they go.... if there are mistakes in the info entered plz send me an email, pm or use the submission engine and I will fix it soon....I need to take a few hours off and talk to the wife and kid so they know I am still part of the family..... again, thanx for all the help in getting this done....
Now, there are a bunch of Commonwealth of Kentucky freqs still unidentified.... guess that the next project...
By the way:
Ben (and others) I have read a lot more info on this system and it is a really well-thought out system taking into consideration the various geologic regions of the Commonwealth tempered by the types of systems available coupled with existing State assets.... It isn't going to be the easiest system to keep working because of all the different radios involved, but it should serve us well in times of need.... and it doesn't seem that rebanding is gonna be a factor
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One of our members sent me the following link to a news release about Kentucky Mutual Aid Inititive..... http://www.techlines.ky.gov/2006/nov/mutual_aid.htm
Marshall, if you get the chance it might be time to correct the name of this thread to what it really is: Kentucky Mutual Aid and Interoperability Initiative
thanx
GREETINGS ALL:
My fingers ache and my eyes are crossed.. but the KYWINS info is entered in one of the three sections-the 150 meg and 450 meg sections are arranged by KSP Post; the 800 meg section is listed by tx site... if need be I can list those under their respective KSP Posts if that will make it easier to figure out where they go.... if there are mistakes in the info entered plz send me an email, pm or use the submission engine and I will fix it soon....I need to take a few hours off and talk to the wife and kid so they know I am still part of the family..... again, thanx for all the help in getting this done....
Now, there are a bunch of Commonwealth of Kentucky freqs still unidentified.... guess that the next project...
By the way:
Ben (and others) I have read a lot more info on this system and it is a really well-thought out system taking into consideration the various geologic regions of the Commonwealth tempered by the types of systems available coupled with existing State assets.... It isn't going to be the easiest system to keep working because of all the different radios involved, but it should serve us well in times of need.... and it doesn't seem that rebanding is gonna be a factor
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so when i put in the freqs i will set each freq to fm and the bank to Conventional
unitcharlie
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You would enter the freqs as conventional... Using tones would reduce reception of unwanted systems from nearby areas (I hear traffic on 155.475 fairly often, I get a lot of skip from Indiana on 155.370 sometimes but haven't monitored anything except a few test transmissions on 800 meg....) Tone for the 150 meg and 800 meg freqs is 1567.7 PL, for the 450 meg it is 162.2 PL..... this is a completely analog system so any agency with an authorized radio can operate within it..... keep in mind you may not hear anything at all on these freqs until something big happens.... but that is the nature of the system.
is this system digital or analog
unitcharlie
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The whole thing is analog.... that way any first responder can talk to any other person on the system using their issued radio.... keep in mind that you will hear very little traffic on it unless something is happening that requires use of the system.... I do hear a lot on the 155.475 freq, some local jurisdictions are using this as a Tac Freq; I hear 155.370 fairly often from skipping-in from Indiana with inter-post traffic....
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unitcharlie
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I have have a lot of info on Kentucky's 800 MHz data system and am wondering how it should be put in rr.com.... it isn't a system we can listen to because it is data.... should i just put it in this thread or is there enough interest in it to have it posted in the data base and be marked as a data only system... will be happy to oblige either way, just take a little time to condense it and organize it for easy reading....
red8
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Do you have any info on Post14 (Ashland) ? That's my hometown and I am planning a trip up there to visit some kin in Ironton, Ohio.
red8
red8
unitcharlie
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Hi red8..... this link has all the KSP info http://www.radioreference.com/modules.php?name=RR&aid=720
good luck with your trip and be careful on the road...
good luck with your trip and be careful on the road...
kyparamedic
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I'm curious about the Kywins system. Is it known by another name? We have Frontline MDC on all our MDT's and can chat and send email to lots of other services in the Eastern KY area.
unitcharlie
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The MDCs are on another set of freqs licensed mostly to The Commonwealth of Kentucky--I can search them for you but all you will hear are the data bursts... The KYWINS System is voice only and, depending upon where you want to communicate, on one of the three bands listed... I think Frontline MDC is the software on the MDC allowing the interface with the system....
unitcharlie said:
radio techs must have been working on KLEEN today. Alot of dead keys on 155.475 with no audio or pl tone, very good signal from Central KY...could have been Springfield or Spurlington tower.
unitcharlie
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Hi Tim:
The KYMAI is technically in place and ready for use as an MA system.... You can monitor traffic on the KMAI system because it is voice, you will only hear something if someone is talking and you are close enough to receive the signal.... a number of agencies use 155.47500 as a Tac or additional talk-around freq, the others will be mostly silent until the situation for their use arises.... As trashman pointed out in an earlier post, there is work still being done in various areas on this system. There is information about how the system is set-up at the link above... not knowing where you monitor most I can't recommend which freqs to program... I have all of them programmed in a bank i use as a "search/verify" bank in my 97.
The KYWINS system is a data only system with many parts in place as this is written, others are being worked.... but, because it is data you won't hear anything but the noise....
Where do you live or monitor most?
The KYMAI is technically in place and ready for use as an MA system.... You can monitor traffic on the KMAI system because it is voice, you will only hear something if someone is talking and you are close enough to receive the signal.... a number of agencies use 155.47500 as a Tac or additional talk-around freq, the others will be mostly silent until the situation for their use arises.... As trashman pointed out in an earlier post, there is work still being done in various areas on this system. There is information about how the system is set-up at the link above... not knowing where you monitor most I can't recommend which freqs to program... I have all of them programmed in a bank i use as a "search/verify" bank in my 97.
The KYWINS system is a data only system with many parts in place as this is written, others are being worked.... but, because it is data you won't hear anything but the noise....
Where do you live or monitor most?
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hi unitcharlie,
i am located in western ky, henderson county.
i have been a scannest since before programmable scanners were sold by radio shack.
thanks for the info and i will keep an eye on this thread.
i have been wanting a digital scanner for a long time but the idea of dropping 4 or 5 hundred dollars for a radio is a bit hard i just cant make myself do it.
is ksp the only people using apco25 in my area? if a few more groups us apco25 i can buy a digtial radio without beating myself up.
see ya
tim
hi unitcharlie,
i am located in western ky, henderson county.
i have been a scannest since before programmable scanners were sold by radio shack.
thanks for the info and i will keep an eye on this thread.
i have been wanting a digital scanner for a long time but the idea of dropping 4 or 5 hundred dollars for a radio is a bit hard i just cant make myself do it.
is ksp the only people using apco25 in my area? if a few more groups us apco25 i can buy a digtial radio without beating myself up.
see ya
tim
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