LMRN OTA Aliases

[VA3ADP]

Some interesting ones I'm trying to decipher

Durham MTO-E
P25, BEE00.AD9, 2520, 214746, 50, Normal, 0, 2024/11/22 16:26, "" 014566BBECEBBF498172BA567719B3D800000000000000000000000000000000001A0EA80D"METTIS"

Peel MTO-E
P25, BEE00.AD9, 2518, 214312, 50, Normal, 7, 2024/10/29 21:35, "" 012E691A73024855567A6C22D19FE6AD2BF2046CCA9E00000000000000000000008084C106"VICTISPOR"

Various Paramedic units some having D or E after their unit number, the others do not.

On 21020 Toronto transfer I'm assuming PT is a unit out of Peterborough
P25, BEE00.AD9, 21020, 754088, 50, Normal, 4, 2024/11/04 14:00, "" 0134675FAE5D1EB63D551752C9DE1E9F4AF4000000000000000000000000000000CF38FA2E"4927 PT"

and MU is Muskoka Paramedics.
P25, BEE00.AD9, 21020, 755484, 50, Normal, 1, 2024/11/05 17:16, "" 0135671E2656A7A493FE14050A50A0D1AD7200000000000000000000000000000094A0A30D"5165 MU"

Nice Catch. I imagine the VICTISPORT is one of the MTO inspection stations? Victoria Park would be my guess?

Not sure why the techs went with D - Delta and E - Echo for portable identifier's and not A and B

As for the PT and MU units, looks like maybe there is some zone 2 movement there?

I was able to catch on TG 19490 (Queens Park) the dispatcher console ID:

P25, BEE00.AD9, 19490, 730678, 50, Normal, 1, 2024/11/20 18:37, "PP-QPD-101"

Also for MNR;

P25, BEE00.AD9, 5354, 402510, 50, Normal, 1, 2024/11/21 20:24, "R1601"
P25, BEE00.AD9, 5354, 402521, 50, Normal, 3, 2024/11/15 3:05, "R1409"
P25, BEE00.AD9, 5354, 412996, 50, Normal, 7, 2024/11/15 3:05, "RO-SSM-OP204"
P25, BEE00.AD9, 5354, 412997, 50, Normal, 2, 2024/11/21 20:24, "RO-SSM-OP203"

 

[mciupa]

I figure VICTISPORT may mean Vehicle Inspection Centre Truck Inspection Portable. Can't figure out the "S" part. It may be Oakville South as it is a Peel MTO talkgroup catch.
For MTO Inspections, the locations close to me are 407 Milton, Oakville, King, and Bowmanville. I don't think Toronto has any.

For Paramedics, I saw was on 20912 Oshawa North OSH-BUF
P25, BEE00.AD9, 20912, 754341, 50, Normal, 5, 2024/11/21 14:51, "" 01336BB4155E78D01559D2F7E4D942F693E94B341209BD50BC2E00000000000000CA13CCA5"AH-OSH-BUF2"

and Oshawa CACC transfer of a Northumberland Paramedic unit on 20910

0145675FAE6D218F34DAFCE627DF9AA6A6860000000000000000000000000000007C20E895"4515 NO"

 

[Muxlow]

As for the EMS portables being D/E apparently thats how they have always identified their portables (so says a EMS buddy)

MTO anything that has TIS in its name will be the inspection stations

 

[VA3DBJ]

I figure VICTISPORT may mean Vehicle Inspection Centre Truck Inspection Portable. Can't figure out the "S" part. Just speculation, I may be wrong.
For MTO Inspections, the locations close to me are 407 Milton, Oakville, King, and Bowmanville. I don't think Toronto has any.

For Paramedics, I saw was on 20912 Oshawa North OSH-BUF
P25, BEE00.AD9, 20912, 754341, 50, Normal, 5, 2024/11/21 14:51, "" 01336BB4155E78D01559D2F7E4D942F693E94B341209BD50BC2E00000000000000CA13CCA5"AH-OSH-BUF2"

and Oshawa CACC transfer of a Northumberland Paramedic unit on 20910

0145675FAE6D218F34DAFCE627DF9AA6A6860000000000000000000000000000007C20E895"4515 NO"

OSH-BUF is the comms/emergency backup facility.

 

[gary123]

My research into the Delta and Echo EMS designations has come up blank too. I remember hearing on FleetNet emergency button activations and the portables Delta and Echo clearing. All the EMS people I know have no idea why they use Delta and Echo my guess is that the original reason has been lost to history.

 

[Forts]

OSH-BUF is the comms/emergency backup facility.

Ah! Thanks for this. I've seen a few AH-LON-BUFxx aliases and had no clue what that was.

 

[mciupa]

Wonder if METTIS on the Durham MTO group is the Metro East truck inspection facility in Pickering?

 

[mikewazowski]

Not exactly LMRN aliases, but I was wondering if Ontario Parks radios will have aliases as they are P25. Might be a little too late to find out this year, though.

No. On the conventional channels, Ontario Parks are not showing aliases.

Ah! Thanks for this. I've seen a few AH-LON-BUFxx aliases and had no clue what that was.

I found a group where the only RID showing up was AH-GEO-BUFM. I know each agency had a 'RED' talkgroup (Remote Emergency Dispatch??) on Fleetnet and I wonder if each CACC/ACS has something similar?

 

[Forts]

I was wondering if it was an EOC group or something similar, but the RED theory adds up too. I don't think I've logged any transmissions on this group, just occasional affiliations here and there. TG 20803 I believe in my case.

 

[mikewazowski]

20679 for Georgian

 

[mciupa]

I see on 20653 for York Paramedics that 843 TP affilliated with it which I surmise is Toronto Paramedics.

 

[gary123]

Some of the harder to capture aliases are the 752xxx hospital ER radios. At least when they are captured it's a lot easier to ID because of the Alias text. I am logging both the RID and the TG that is is affiliated to.

 

[exkalibur]

I see on 20653 for York Paramedics that 843 TP affilliated with it which I surmise is Toronto Paramedics.

Yeppo!

BB	BRANT BRANTFORD PARAMEDIC SERVICE
BC	BRUCE COUNTY PARAMEDIC SERVICES
BF	BEAUSOLEIL FIRST NATION EMS
CK	CHATHAM KENT EMS
DC	DUFFERIN COUNTY PARAMEDIC SERVICES
DR	REGION OF DURHAM PARAMEDIC SERVICES
EL	ELGIN-ST THOMAS EMS
EW	ESSEX WINDSOR EMS
GC	GREY COUNTY PARAMEDIC SERVICES
GW	GUELPH WELLINGTON PARAMEDIC SERVICE
HC	HURON COUNTY PARAMEDIC SERVICES
HD	HALDIMAND COUNTY PARAMEDIC SERVICES
HL	HALTON REGION PARAMEDIC SERVICES
HP	HAMILTON PARAMEDIC SERVICES
KL	KAWARTHA LAKES PARAMEDIC SERVICE
LC	LAMBTON EMS
ML	MIDDLESEX-LONDON EMS
NC	NORFOLK COUNTY PARAMEDIC SERVICES
NI	NIAGARA REGION EMS
OC	OXFORD COUNTY PARAMEDIC SERVICES
ON	ONEIDA PARAMEDIC SERVICES
PC	PERTH COUNTY PARAMEDIC SERVICES
PE	PEEL REGIONAL PARAMEDIC SERVICES
PT	PETERBOROUGH COUNTY-CITY PARAMEDICS
RF	RAMA PARAMEDIC SERVICES
SC	COUNTY OF SIMCOE PARAMEDIC SERVICES
SX	SIX NATIONS AMBULANCE SERVICE
TP	TORONTO PARAMEDIC SERVICES
WR	REGION OF WATERLOO PARAMEDIC SERVICES
YR	YORK REGION PARAMEDIC SERVICES

 

[exkalibur]

My research into the Delta and Echo EMS designations has come up blank too. I remember hearing on FleetNet emergency button activations and the portables Delta and Echo clearing. All the EMS people I know have no idea why they use Delta and Echo my guess is that the original reason has been lost to history.

I had asked and was told that they used to use "Alpha" and "Bravo" when they had the old Tait UHF radios, and started with the "Delta" and "Echo" once they got the new Motorola 700MHz gear. I assume that possibly Charlie was a 3rd radio used in a larger vehicle like a command bus or an MCI vehicle? But nobody I've asked seems to know for sure.

 

[gary123]

That would make some sense. I still think I have heard the delta and echo used over the past few years on fleetnet long before the 7000 units were even distributed. This does not mean that EMS was not already being proactive and using the designators ahead of time. Either way we now know what the delta and echo are and what the "D" and "E" are in the decoded aliases.

you can add this to the EMS area list above.

NO	NORTHUMBERLAND PARAMEDICS

 

[VA3ADP]

Got an interesting one a couple Minutes ago on the ORNGE TG 22103 - 789695 "AO-ORN-OP105". I am guessing the "AO" indicates "Air ORNGE". Looks like its one of the dispatch consoles for ORNGE's communications centre. Also saw "AH-MIS-CVH" on TG 23126. This appears to be the Credit Valley Hospital Patch TG

 

[Forts]

Yes Ornge has a handful of consoles as well as talkgroups.

 

[gary123]

I had ORNGE in my monitoring set up yetserday. I did not capture any LMRN TG activity on the local sites. I was at the airport when ORNGE arrived and departed. I also did not see any activity on any DVRS. The helicopter landed and the crew went to the local hospital . All I saw was activity on the regular EMS TG. Using DSD decoding the aliases was able to confirm that it was the ambulance at the airport talking as they transported the crew to and from the hospital.

 

[Forts]

I've caught most of my Ornge traffic on the Byron and Wardsville sites... which makes sense as they have a land ambulance base in Chatham and are routinely coming up to London. Now mind you I don't think I've ever seen a group active, but they are in my logs almost daily.

 

[w3rwn]

Some interesting ones I'm trying to decipher

On 21020 Toronto transfer I'm assuming PT is a unit out of Peterborough
P25, BEE00.AD9, 21020, 754088, 50, Normal, 4, 2024/11/04 14:00, "" 0134675FAE5D1EB63D551752C9DE1E9F4AF4000000000000000000000000000000CF38FA2E"4927 PT"

4927 would be an Eastern Region Transport Ambulance.
Given the reference to Peterborough and Type 9 Transport, that's probably one of the two ORNGE land ambulances that operate from 889 Weller Base, behind PRHC.