LMRN Technical Data Discussion

[Muxlow]

A new channel (142.3350) appeared on the Whitby tower at lunch, as a voice channel. Still no secondary control channel assigned yet.

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With MOH north and south, OPP Toronto and Aurora, MTO Toronto and Durham and MOF all active at noon, they pushed it to the 3rd frequency.

You have activity on the 1400X groups? Have yet to even an affiliation on them off the Windsor, Essex, Chatham, Wardsville, Wallaceburg, Sarnia sites. Must not be enforcing f all down here maybe

 

[VA3DBJ]

You have activity on the 1400X groups? Have yet to even an affiliation on them off the Windsor, Essex, Chatham, Wardsville, Wallaceburg, Sarnia sites. Must not be enforcing f all down here maybe

They do get pretty busy on the Whitby tower. Specially during the first couple days of the week. They do have an office building here in Oshawa. The Michael Star Building. The building houses the headquarters for the Ministry of Revenue and also includes staff from the Ministry of Finance, Ministry of the Attorney General and Ministry of Government Services for the Government of Ontario.

P25, BEE00.AD9, 14001, 50, Normal, 710, 2024/09/09 19:21, "MOF Enforcement 2 (TDMA)"
P25, BEE00.AD9, 14002, 50, Normal, 5, 2024/08/23 14:11, "MOF Enforcement 3 (TDMA)"

The numbers above were reset a few weeks or so ago, but MOF 2 is very active here. I'll see some RID's change to MOF 3 for about an hour or so, then they return to MOF 2.

 

[Muxlow]

Ahh that must be why its so active then due to their HQ. Wonder if you can run Close Call while nearby and see if they have any type of 700 MHz VR, just for the fun of searching.

 

[VA3DBJ]

Has anyone else picked up TG19612. Seems to only have one dispatch console (730736) and one OPP unit (706616) tied to it. Been daily activity on it since the switch over.





and I also have 3 units on TG19391:

Ahh that must be why its so active then due to their HQ. Wonder if you can run close call while near and see if they have any type of 700mhz VR just for the fun of searching

When I get a chance to run down to there or the City Hall, I'll sit for a bit and see what shows up. Until Security chases me off.

 

[Muxlow]

I had a 19605 off the Essex site few days ago

And as I check my Sarnia site this very minute, it is as if someone was reading this and flipped over lol. 19605 is patched with Lambton OPP and MTO Essex.

 

[slicerwizard]

Whitby site is claiming that 142.23 is the current control channel and the backup control channel.

RFSS_STS_BCST SysID=AD9 LRA=0 RFSS=1 Site=37 CC=142.23 SC=60

SCCB RFSS=1 Site=37 [ch=142.23 SSC=04] [ch=142.23 SSC=04]

"If you can't hear me on 142.23, I probably moved to 142.23"

Fonthill is doing the same thing. Maybe Bell Mobility has the B Team working this week?

 

[Forts]

Was in Brantford on the weekend and it was doing the same thing... was quite bizarre.

 

[VA3DBJ]

This is what I have so far off the Whitby tower for the enforcement TG's:



The ones I have marked in yellow are ones that we haven't ID'd yet.

 

[gary123]

Site 48 141.705 CC, 142.065 scc, 143.520 v
Neighbor 4,5,12,44

I did not have the greatest signal so there may be more for 48.

and more updated site info

32 142.725cc, 142.440scc, 141.195v, 142.980v
N 11, 15, 21, 22, 23

23 142.590cc, 142.005scc, 143400v
N 3, 5, 7, 11, 12, 21, 22, 32, 33

13 142.095cc, 142.545scc, 142.695v, 142.950v
N 5, 7, 9, 11, 15, 37, 46, 147

10 142.350cc, 143.100scc, 142.275v
N 16, 18, 19, 22

11 142.380cc, 142.485scc, 142.575v, 142.335v
N 7, 13, 15, 23, 32, 46

 

[mciupa]

Seeing talkgroup 22100 come up repeatedly with a radio ID in the MOH range.

 

[mbstone99]

Seeing talkgroup 22100 come up repeatedly with a radio ID in the MOH range.

I also have seen 22111 and 22113 come up a few times too in that range.

Matt

 

[Muxlow]

I've got a hit on 14021 with RID 600008 off the Chatham site

 

[VA3DBJ]

I've got a hit on 14021 with RID 600008 off the Chatham site

MOF 600008 was in Oshawa last week.

P25, BEE00.AD9, 14001, 600008, 50, Normal, 277, 2024/09/06 13:56, "MOF Unit"

 

[mciupa]

I've got a hit on 14021 with RID 600008 off the Chatham site

I've got a couple of hits in April:

P25, BEE00.AD9, 14021, 50, Normal, 2, 2024/04/24 15:58, ""

with these radios

P25, BEE00.AD9, 14021, 600003, 50, Normal, 0, 0000/00/00 0:00, ""
P25, BEE00.AD9, 14021, 600017, 50, Normal, 2, 2024/04/24 15:58, ""

My only reliable towers are Toronto, Mississauga, King City, Fonthill (not like the ten towers in the FleetNet days)so it was found off of one of them.

 

[VA3DBJ]

Toronto 147 has gone FAILED, ISOLATED, but had reverted back to the old CC channel (142.680) at the same time. Possibly working on going back to 40? It flipped to FAILED at 9 PM.



2024/09/17 21:08:34 BEE00.AD9-1.37 neighbor: Site BEE00.AD9-1.147; CC=0-890 142.6800 Toronto
2024/09/17 21:08:42 BEE00.AD9-1.37 neighbor: Site BEE00.AD9-1.147; CC=0-890 142.6800 Toronto FAILED, ISOLATED


The Whitby tower has been going through a whole slew of system generated affiliations requests as well.

 

[mciupa]

It has reverted back to 147. All neighbour sites are showing Info Outdated. 40 shows up as FAILED, ISOLATED
Current Control channel is 142.905 but it flashes wildly between CC and scc, at times.

 

[exkalibur]

It has reverted back to 147. All neighbour sites are showing Info Outdated. 40 shows up as FAILED, ISOLATED
Current Control channel is 142.905 but it flashes wildly between CC and scc, at times.

Looks like the B team is at it again!

 

[slicerwizard]

Whitby site is claiming that 142.23 is the current control channel and the backup control channel.

RFSS_STS_BCST SysID=AD9 LRA=0 RFSS=1 Site=37 CC=142.23 SC=60

SCCB RFSS=1 Site=37 [ch=142.23 SSC=04] [ch=142.23 SSC=04]

"If you can't hear me on 142.23, I probably moved to 142.23"

Be advised, this appears to be breaking Unication pagers. They see the SCC message and go looking for the CC. Maybe only program 142.23 for the Whitby site? That way, the pager doesn't have anywhere else to look.

 

[mciupa]

I don't think I've ever seen this many patches at once. Seen off of Mississauga tower.

 

[gary123]

I expect that as more services have migrated in the old Zone 1 that some sites will have extra voice channels assigned. Like you, I have seen several sites max out with both slots used on the voice and SCC channels. All indications are that other users are being held in cue for a slot to become free.