Ok good info. The SNACC system on the database needs an update. There are new TGID groups and analyzing with pro96com show it as phase 2. Makes the metro PD patch in easy I guess?
Maricopa County new P25 system
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Those were called "table top exercises" and they require less effort than a full mockup. We involved a huge number of people in our drills. We had the County SO, CHP, Cal Fire, CA Fish and Wildlife, USFS, Fire Districts, EMS, Public Works, County Public Affairs, CERT members, hams, Lions Club, Red Cross and others I've likely forgotten. Of course every MD and nurse were there, along with admin folks and janitors. There were staged incidents all over the county, most in the county seat vicinity. So we had actors with mock injuries, a crashed bus at a gravel pit where people needed extrication. yada yada. Most "victims" were transported to the ER and we even did some "table top" surgeries. We combined our mass casualty drill and a county ICS exercise/emergency plan practice into one. We had radio traffic and an incident radio operator/dispatcher, who made announcements every 15 minutes that all traffic was a drill. When these ended we had a giant potluck BBQ in the park. The exercise was real enough to stress nearly everyone.
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It sounds like it may be in the process of changing over from Phase I to Phase II, then. At some point, you'll need a Phase II capable scanner to continue monitoring it, if you don't have one already.
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Wow there’s a lot going on in Phoenix on the scanner! Just in town for two days I heard the p25 system fine with my Bcd536hp. The other fd system sounds good. I was at Mayo Clinic. Going home this morning along rt74 I was picking up Luke Afb p25 system. I thought that was cool! I lost the maricopa p25 soon after going north on 60 toward wickenburg. Thanks again for the info for the area.
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Maricopa County has Wickenburg and Towers Mtn sites. If you had had them active, you should not have lost the system until well into Yavapai County on 93, or La Paz County on 60 I would guess, especially off of Towers, assuming at least one deputy's radio was affiliated to it.
John
Peoria
John
Peoria
scanbc780
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Quite often the Wickenburg site is affiliated and has decent range, I have a feeling there is a 2nd site in Wickenburg. The one site is almost road level near the rest area MP 116ish (right next to the stupid PINE TREE cell tower in the middle of the desert). I have a feeling there is one on Yarnell and they are considering that part of the “Wickenburg Similcast site” because the 60 site looks like it’s basically covering the canyon which was a terrible spot previous. I have yet to take a trip up to Yarnell to verify this.
The Towers site does cover some of Wickenburg, where I sit is basically a perfect window through mountain ranges for me to pick up most of the Towers sites/repeaters. I find at times Wickenburg affiliates more than towers (the 351/352/353 units spend a good amount of time in it).
Once north of Wickenburg on 89 near Wickenburg Ranch and up Yarnell Hill, White Tanks is your best bet... perfect line of sight. North on 93... good luck once you are past the the last roundabout and into the canyons.
With that being said, I JUST got an SDS200, and I prefer the Uniden DMA way of setting things up. If someone is willing to share with me their SDS profile file(s) so I can see how others are setting their favorite lists up, I’d be grateful. I think I have a good grasp, but it would still help. I’m late to the favorites game as the 436/536 didn’t grab my attention. PM me for my email addy.
The Towers site does cover some of Wickenburg, where I sit is basically a perfect window through mountain ranges for me to pick up most of the Towers sites/repeaters. I find at times Wickenburg affiliates more than towers (the 351/352/353 units spend a good amount of time in it).
Once north of Wickenburg on 89 near Wickenburg Ranch and up Yarnell Hill, White Tanks is your best bet... perfect line of sight. North on 93... good luck once you are past the the last roundabout and into the canyons.
With that being said, I JUST got an SDS200, and I prefer the Uniden DMA way of setting things up. If someone is willing to share with me their SDS profile file(s) so I can see how others are setting their favorite lists up, I’d be grateful. I think I have a good grasp, but it would still help. I’m late to the favorites game as the 436/536 didn’t grab my attention. PM me for my email addy.
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My file is shared in a different thread. You can find it under my posts. You can share what ya got in the same thread.
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I think you are spot on. The "Wickenburg Simulcast" site is licensed for two transmitters. One transmitter Southeast of Wickenburg on US 60 and one at Yarnell.
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Just programmed the Maricopa County system and TG1008 is quite active on the Chandler/Mesa Simulcast. In the DB it is labeled as D8 Mtn Parks but they keep referring to it as "East" as they used to with the old system. Is 1008 actually the East Hot TG or ? Just looking for some clarification from those that have monitored this system more than I have.
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It's probably a patch or multiselect with East. They used to do that regularly with East and Lakes on the old system. Lakes would only be separated from East during busy weekends when there was activity on the recreational lakes and the Salt River, or as needs dictated, due to dispatcher staffing.
Our scanners may or may not hear the same traffic on both talkgroups. I'm sure someone else can explain better why that is, but it has to do with how our scanners decode the data stream.
John
Peoria
Our scanners may or may not hear the same traffic on both talkgroups. I'm sure someone else can explain better why that is, but it has to do with how our scanners decode the data stream.
John
Peoria
Are there actual East and West Talkgroups like before or is everything just done by district now?
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Dispatch is by district. Depending on dispatcher staffing, various districts could be patched/multi-selected. I've heard both Southwest district 2 and Northwest district 3 on district 2 in the past. (Other combinations are entirely possible. Northeast 4 and Fountain Hills 7 could be patched at times. Southeast 1 and Queen Creek 6 could be patched at times, or Southeast 1 and Lakes 5 and/or Mountain Parks 8 could be patched. Etc.)
There appears to only be one encrypted Tac channel for East, and one for West in the database.
I don't know if they only have one or two Car-to-Car channels, or if each district has their own. They'd be encrypted, regardless.
There's one known encrypted Information channel.
John
Peoria
There appears to only be one encrypted Tac channel for East, and one for West in the database.
I don't know if they only have one or two Car-to-Car channels, or if each district has their own. They'd be encrypted, regardless.
There's one known encrypted Information channel.
John
Peoria
MCSO P25 Any one know why the Lakes and Rivers units check on are give A or B or C is this a Channel or Talk Group there assigned to or an area there assigned to? This morning is the first time iv heard this.
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I'm not sure I understand your question.
Are you saying that when a lake patrol deputy first signs on the radio, that the dispatcher tells them, "You have A.", or, "You have B."?
John
Peoria
Hi John yes the unit gives the EM numbers the unit also tells the dispatcher where there head to for the shift then the dispatcher comes back and says your on A or B or C today iv never heard that before now this is only on lakes and river patrol. I haven't heard them do this on the Districts talk groups. I wonder if Lakes and River patrol have more talk groups than what is listed to spreed the traffic out more so Lakes 1 wont get over loaded with traffic. Just a guess.
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I have never heard this, but I rarely monitor Lakes. They might have encrypted event talkgroups for busy weekends like this.
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The few times I've heard this ID'd over the air, TGID 1005 (Lakes) is running an incident and a deputy or dispatcher asks Lakes traffic to move to "Lakes B" or simply "B", which then is carried on TGID 1006 (600 - Queen Creek).
The "B" or "Lakes B" has been ID'd over the air by deputies in the field during incidents. I haven't heard it but three or four times since the new system was stood up, so... I hesitated to submit to the DB admins.
The "B" or "Lakes B" has been ID'd over the air by deputies in the field during incidents. I haven't heard it but three or four times since the new system was stood up, so... I hesitated to submit to the DB admins.
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The old system had a main Lakes TG as well as a Lakes Tac TG, so it would make sense that they would have 1 or more secondary tactical and/or car-car TG's on this system.
John
Peoria
John
Peoria
scanbc780
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If it was a hot tone, they patch all the channels for hot tones. They will move the traffic to TAC channels if the dispatch channel is busy or if it is sensitive traffic. From what I have gathered over time is TAC 3 is TAC West for dist 3 and most of the time Dist 2 as well.
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