Maryland FIRST 700mhz TRS

u2brent · Jul 21, 2019

Here's the activity DSD+ has decoded from the Cecil site..

Code:

7608,       Hitcount,     1769,  2019/07/21 14:43,  "MIEMSS 7R3 EMRC Call"
7609,       Hitcount,     3415,  2019/07/21 14:41,  "MIEMSS 7R3 Med1"
7610,       Hitcount,       88,  2019/07/21 12:30,  "MIEMSS 7R3 Med2"
7611,       Hitcount,        4,  2019/07/18 12:00,  "MIEMSS 7R3 Med3"
7612,       Hitcount,        0,  0000/00/00  0:00,  "MIEMSS 7R3 Med4"
7613,       Hitcount,        0,  0000/00/00  0:00,  "MIEMSS 7R3 Med5"
7614,       Hitcount,        0,  0000/00/00  0:00,  "MIEMSS 7R3 Med6"
7615,       Hitcount,       78,  2019/07/18 10:17,  "MIEMSS 7R4 EMRC Call"
7616,       Hitcount,      248,  2019/07/17 23:15,  "MIEMSS 7R4 Med1"
7617,       Hitcount,        0,  0000/00/00  0:00,  "MIEMSS 7R4 Med2"
7618,       Hitcount,        0,  0000/00/00  0:00,  "MIEMSS 7R4 Med3"
7620,       Hitcount,        0,  0000/00/00  0:00,  "MIEMSS 7R4 Med5"
7621,       Hitcount,        0,  0000/00/00  0:00,  "MIEMSS 7R4 Med6"
7640,       Hitcount,      100,  2019/07/05 20:27,  "MIEMSS SYSCOM to MSP Air"
7648,       Hitcount,        1,  2019/07/05 19:13,  "MIEMSS Helimed (Helicopter to Hospitals)"
7653,       Hitcount,       24,  2019/06/06  6:14,  "MIEMSS Comm Techs"
7654,       Hitcount,        0,  0000/00/00  0:00,  "MIEMSS? 7654"
7655,       Hitcount,      140,  2019/06/25 13:04,  "MIEMSS? 7655"
7656,       Hitcount,        0,  0000/00/00  0:00,  "MIEMSS? 7656"
7658,       Hitcount,        0,  0000/00/00  0:00,  "MIEMSS? 7658"

Definitely 7R3 is getting the most action..
Regional Programs

u2brent · Jul 24, 2019

Can confirm TG 7532 DNR Fair Hill Park Ops

boatbod · Jul 24, 2019

I just heard that Talbot Law tgids will become fully encrypted some time between 8/5-8/7. This certainly applies to Talbot Sheriff Office and allied agencies (Oxford PD, SMPD), not sure about Easton PD but it's a fair guess it will since dispatch is handled by Talbot Center. State Police Barracks I (Easton) probably not, but I guess we'll find out soon enough.

maus92 · Jul 24, 2019

boatbod said:
I just heard that Talbot Law tgids will become fully encrypted some time between 8/5-8/7. This certainly applies to Talbot Sheriff Office and allied agencies (Oxford PD, SMPD), not sure about Easton PD but it's a fair guess it will since dispatch is handled by Talbot Center. State Police Barracks I (Easton) probably not, but I guess we'll find out soon enough.

Boo....

MSP will likely remain unencrypted - the Princess Anne Barracks isn't, even though the Somerset County Sheriff is encrypted. The fetish wrt encryption by sheriffs in this state is notable, and voters should take note.

boatbod · Jul 25, 2019

maus92 said:
Boo....

MSP will likely remain unencrypted - the Princess Anne Barracks isn't, even though the Somerset County Sheriff is encrypted. The fetish wrt encryption by sheriffs in this state is notable, and voters should take note.

It's being pitched as a safety measure due to recent high profile incidents. In other words, by being publicly accessible the authorities have no control over messaging. We can thank QA Co for leading the way with this trend on the 'shore.

ThePhotoGuy · Jul 27, 2019

Caroline - 12032 - Units calling "DES" (Department of Emergency Services). Appeared to be Paramedic Units operating on it. Maybe DES OPS or a Training Channel?

Also heard a NPS Assateague Federal Ranger testing on 7565 East Park Ops. Good to see them get radios/talkgroup access for FiRST!

u2brent · Jul 27, 2019

Cecil Co Animal Control 12250
Cecil Co Water Department 12311
DNR North State Parks Ops to NRP Area 6 Park Rangers 14216

maus92 · Jul 27, 2019

u2brent said:
Cecil Co Animal Control 12250
Cecil Co Water Department 12311
DNR North State Parks Ops to NRP Area 6 Park Rangers 14216

Hmmm. interesting. Although Park Rangers enforce laws and regulations, they are not part of the Natural Resources Police. Maybe it's a Ranger or Forestry TG?

Is the VHF EDACS system still operational?

ThePhotoGuy · Jul 27, 2019

I have previously logged 14216 earlier this summer. Definitely a Park Ops channel but which one, I have no idea.

organized_mayhem · Jul 27, 2019

Cecil’s EDACS system is still on. The police talk groups for some reason are still being transmitted on it Although they are claiming they have switched over to First. DNR and the park rangers were never on the old system.

Mark · Jul 27, 2019

ThePhotoGuy said:
I have previously logged 14216 earlier this summer. Definitely a Park Ops channel but which one, I have no idea.

I always wonder about Elk Neck State Park.. Fairly large operation in Cecil County.. Boat Ramps,Camping sites etc.
I know they got State Park Rangers there.Course they may show up on Harford County site being just across Sussky water from there or
even down into Kent county.

u2brent · Jul 27, 2019

organized_mayhem said:
Cecil’s EDACS system is still on. The police talk groups for some reason are still being transmitted on it Although they are claiming they have switched over to First. DNR and the park rangers were never on the old system.

Until all the mobiles are replaced, I'd expect the PD patch's to continue. Possibly another month

They've slowly been rolling them out, Mostly Sheriffs and some EMS units so far..

u2brent · Jul 27, 2019

maus92 said:
Hmmm. interesting. Although Park Rangers enforce laws and regulations, they are not part of the Natural Resources Police. Maybe it's a Ranger or Forestry TG?

Is the VHF EDACS system still operational?

Perhaps NRP PD and not Park Ranger, So many different agencies..

Gonna keep listening..

ThePhotoGuy said:
I have previously logged 14216 earlier this summer. Definitely a Park Ops channel but which one, I have no idea.

Have had a few others on Cecil Site too.. Just dunno..

Many affiliations, not much talkin'
P25, BEE00.4A2, 7525, 50, Normal, 75, 2019/07/22 9:21, "DNR? 7525"
P25, BEE00.4A2, 7533, 40, Normal, 617, 2019/04/25 7:40, "DNR? 7533"
P25, BEE00.4A2, 7538, 50, Normal, 8, 2019/07/18 13:49, "DNR? 7538"
P25, BEE00.4A2, 7540, 50, Normal, 26, 2019/06/20 1:38, "DNR? 7540"
P25, BEE00.4A2, 7564, 40, Normal, 0, 0000/00/00 0:00, "DNR? 7564"
P25, BEE00.4A2, 7572, 50, Normal, 0, 0000/00/00 0:00, "DNR? 7572"
P25, BEE00.4A2, 7573, 50, Normal, 0, 0000/00/00 0:00, "DNR? 7573"
P25, BEE00.4A2, 7574, 50, Normal, 0, 0000/00/00 0:00, "DNR? 7574"
P25, BEE00.4A2, 7575, 50, Normal, 0, 0000/00/00 0:00, "DNR? 7575"
P25, BEE00.4A2, 7576, 50, Normal, 0, 0000/00/00 0:00, "DNR? 7576"
P25, BEE00.4A2, 7579, 50, Normal, 0, 0000/00/00 0:00, "DNR? 7579"
P25, BEE00.4A2, 7595, 50, Normal, 0, 0000/00/00 0:00, "DNR? 7595"
P25, BEE00.4A2, 14211, 50, Normal, 7, 2019/07/26 21:08, "DNR? 14211"
P25, BEE00.4A2, 14213, 50, Normal, 0, 0000/00/00 0:00, "DNR? 14213"
P25, BEE00.4A2, 14214, 50, Normal, 1, 2019/07/17 14:45, "DNR? 14214"
P25, BEE00.4A2, 14215, 50, Normal, 0, 0000/00/00 0:00, "DNR? 14215"
P25, BEE00.4A2, 14216, 50, Normal, 41, 2019/07/27 23:20, "DNR North SP to NRP Area 6 PD? 14216"
P25, BEE00.4A2, 14217, 50, Normal, 0, 0000/00/00 0:00, "DNR? 14217"
P25, BEE00.4A2, 14218, 50, Normal, 0, 0000/00/00 0:00, "DNR? 14218"
P25, BEE00.4A2, 14447, 50, Normal, 1, 2019/07/18 17:45, "DNR? 14447"
P25, BEE00.4A2, 14448, 50, Normal, 0, 0000/00/00 0:00, "DNR? 14448"

Loads of fun

ThePhotoGuy · Jul 28, 2019

u2brent said:
Perhaps NRP PD and not Park Ranger, So many different agencies..
Gonna keep listening..

Have had a few others on Cecil Site too.. Just dunno..
Many affiliations, not much talkin'
P25, BEE00.4A2, 7525, 50, Normal, 75, 2019/07/22 9:21, "DNR? 7525" Park Users Talking. Users 6xx. Probably a Harford/Cecil Park?
P25, BEE00.4A2, 7533, 40, Normal, 617, 2019/04/25 7:40, "DNR? 7533" Active at time through years on AA/BC Sites. Fully Encrypted. Investigators?
P25, BEE00.4A2, 7538, 50, Normal, 8, 2019/07/18 13:49, "DNR? 7538" Users testing. AA/BC Sites.
P25, BEE00.4A2, 7540, 50, Normal, 26, 2019/06/20 1:38, "DNR? 7540"
P25, BEE00.4A2, 7564, 40, Normal, 0, 0000/00/00 0:00, "DNR? 7564"
P25, BEE00.4A2, 7572, 50, Normal, 0, 0000/00/00 0:00, "DNR? 7572" ENC
P25, BEE00.4A2, 7573, 50, Normal, 0, 0000/00/00 0:00, "DNR? 7573" ENC
P25, BEE00.4A2, 7574, 50, Normal, 0, 0000/00/00 0:00, "DNR? 7574" ENC
P25, BEE00.4A2, 7575, 50, Normal, 0, 0000/00/00 0:00, "DNR? 7575"
P25, BEE00.4A2, 7576, 50, Normal, 0, 0000/00/00 0:00, "DNR? 7576"
P25, BEE00.4A2, 7579, 50, Normal, 0, 0000/00/00 0:00, "DNR? 7579"
P25, BEE00.4A2, 7595, 50, Normal, 0, 0000/00/00 0:00, "DNR? 7595"
P25, BEE00.4A2, 14211, 50, Normal, 7, 2019/07/26 21:08, "DNR? 14211"
P25, BEE00.4A2, 14213, 50, Normal, 0, 0000/00/00 0:00, "DNR? 14213"
P25, BEE00.4A2, 14214, 50, Normal, 1, 2019/07/17 14:45, "DNR? 14214"
P25, BEE00.4A2, 14215, 50, Normal, 0, 0000/00/00 0:00, "DNR? 14215"
P25, BEE00.4A2, 14216, 50, Normal, 41, 2019/07/27 23:20, "DNR North SP to NRP Area 6 PD? 14216"
P25, BEE00.4A2, 14217, 50, Normal, 0, 0000/00/00 0:00, "DNR? 14217"
P25, BEE00.4A2, 14218, 50, Normal, 0, 0000/00/00 0:00, "DNR? 14218"
P25, BEE00.4A2, 14447, 50, Normal, 1, 2019/07/18 17:45, "DNR? 14447"
P25, BEE00.4A2, 14448, 50, Normal, 0, 0000/00/00 0:00, "DNR? 14448"

Loads of fun

Filled in some details of talkgroups that I am familiar with. A lot, I have never seen before.

u2brent · Jul 28, 2019

Perhaps it's been previously mentioned somewhere... Does anyone know if Cecil will be maintaining the VHF conventional frequencies? I haven't heard a dispatch on 155.5275 since the switch to FIRST..

A few in my list..

Helicopter Patch to VHF TRS 46.18 C94.8 KBI858/KGD262/KSS919

Cecil Co (V-TAC11) 151.1375 C156.7 WQIV917

Cecil Co (FDTA1) 154.0625 CSQ WQAZ613

Elkton Public Works 154.115 SRCH WPQG468

Cecil Co (V-FIRE21) 154.280 CSQ/C156.7 WPNW613

Cecil Co (V-TAC12) 154.4525 C156.7 WQIV917

Cecil Co (FDTA3) 154.815 CSQ/Not C192.8 KYB760

Law Enforcement Talkaround 154.9425 SRCH WQAZ613

Cecil Co (VLAW31) 155.475 CSQ KGG903/WQIV917/WQAZ613

Dispatch/Paging 155.5275 CSQ WQCS587

Cecil Co (V-CALL10) 155.7525 C156.7 WQIV917

Cecil Co (ElktonPD) 155.79 C123.0 KGB962

Cecil Co (FDTA2) 155.9425 CSQ ????

Cecil Co (V-TAC13) 158.7375 C156.7 WQIV917

Cecil Co (KentLAW) 159.21 C141.3 WQJM297

Cecil Co (V-TAC14) 159.4725 C156.7 WQIV917

Perry Point Veterans Affairs Medical Center Ops 407.8375 SRCH ????

Perry Point Veterans Affairs Medical Center PD Tac 409.4375 SRCH ????

Detention Center Simplex LP 453.15 SRCH KNIC739 RAN1 ??

Detention Center 453.25 SRCH KNIC739

Med 9 462.95 C167.9 WQKV618

Med 4 463.075 C167.9 KY7597/WQKV618

Med 53 463.1187 C167.9 WQMM583

Med 6 463.125 C167.9 KY7597/WQKV618

Med 73 463.1687 C167.9 WQMM583

Med 8 463.175 C167.9 KY7597/WQKV618

Union Hospital - Security 464.475 SRCH WPVL438

neilhuss · Jul 28, 2019

I was told the would not be using the old system

maus92 · Jul 29, 2019

u2brent said:
Perhaps it's been previously mentioned somewhere... Does anyone know if Cecil will be maintaining the VHF conventional frequencies? I haven't heard a dispatch on 155.5275 since the switch to FIRST..

A few in my list..

Helicopter Patch to VHF TRS 46.18 C94.8 KBI858/KGD262/KSS919

Cecil Co (V-TAC11) 151.1375 C156.7 WQIV917
Cecil Co (FDTA1) 154.0625 CSQ WQAZ613
Elkton Public Works 154.115 SRCH WPQG468
Cecil Co (V-FIRE21) 154.280 CSQ/C156.7 WPNW613
Cecil Co (V-TAC12) 154.4525 C156.7 WQIV917
Cecil Co (FDTA3) 154.815 CSQ/Not C192.8 KYB760
Law Enforcement Talkaround 154.9425 SRCH WQAZ613
Cecil Co (VLAW31) 155.475 CSQ KGG903/WQIV917/WQAZ613
Dispatch/Paging 155.5275 CSQ WQCS587
Cecil Co (V-CALL10) 155.7525 C156.7 WQIV917
Cecil Co (ElktonPD) 155.79 C123.0 KGB962
Cecil Co (FDTA2) 155.9425 CSQ ????
Cecil Co (V-TAC13) 158.7375 C156.7 WQIV917
Cecil Co (KentLAW) 159.21 C141.3 WQJM297
Cecil Co (V-TAC14) 159.4725 C156.7 WQIV917
Perry Point Veterans Affairs Medical Center Ops 407.8375 SRCH ????
Perry Point Veterans Affairs Medical Center PD Tac 409.4375 SRCH ????
Detention Center Simplex LP 453.15 SRCH KNIC739 RAN1 ??
Detention Center 453.25 SRCH KNIC739
Med 9 462.95 C167.9 WQKV618
Med 4 463.075 C167.9 KY7597/WQKV618
Med 53 463.1187 C167.9 WQMM583
Med 6 463.125 C167.9 KY7597/WQKV618
Med 73 463.1687 C167.9 WQMM583
Med 8 463.175 C167.9 KY7597/WQKV618
Union Hospital - Security 464.475 SRCH WPVL438

The UHF Med Channels will be maintained by the state. I was *thinking* that the VHF freqs would become inputs for a DVRS system in the future.

u2brent · Jul 30, 2019

Confirmed another..
TG 12246 Cecil Co Detention Center Ops

I'm hearing TG 7541 referred to as DNR North SP Call not East as posted in the DB

maus92 said:
The UHF Med Channels will be maintained by the state. I was *thinking* that the VHF freqs would become inputs for a DVRS system in the future.

Hmm, I would of thought they'd keep them as backup CYA.
Surely the NIFOG's they have licensed are in their radios

Just wondered if anybody was hearing anything on em'?

maus92 · Jul 30, 2019

u2brent said:
Confirmed another..
TG 12246 Cecil Co Detention Center Ops

I'm hearing TG 7541 referred to as DNR North SP Call not East as posted in the DB

Hmm, I would of thought they'd keep them as backup CYA.
Surely the NIFOG's they have licensed are in their radios
Just wondered if anybody was hearing anything on em'?

There are undoubtably errors in the RRDB, particularly wrt to FIRST, both because it's a new system, and that TGs can be reassigned by the agency. DNR has been a puzzle, but it's coming together slowly. If you've confirmed an error or a new use, by all means submit the change.

AFAIK, the UHF Med channels are still the primary means to contact hospitals by radio, and I hear them in use whenever I enable them in a radio.

boatbod · Jul 30, 2019

maus92 said:
AFAIK, the UHF Med channels are still the primary means to contact hospitals by radio, and I hear them in use whenever I enable them in a radio.

Not necessarily - I believe it really depends on where you are located and what radio facilities are available. At least in the Mid-Shore counties, the primary method of consult is via FiRST 7R4MEDxx and the old UHF system is just a backup. (Can't remember the last time we used it). The advantage of using 7R4 is that the consult can be conducted from anywhere using just the portable the medic is already carrying.

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