Metro North New Haven Line Radio Changes
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radioman2001
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I sent a PM at 9am this morning, I'll send you an e-mail now.
radioman2001
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Latest update effective 7-31-2015 full scale programming now taking place in all shops, but programming nearly 6000 radios is going to take some time.
N1SQB
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New Find!
Metro North also has a frequency licensed to them of 161.160 but I can't figure out how it's used yet. If anyone wishes to monitor it along with me, here it is.
http://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?stid=9&freq=161.160&action=sf
Radioman2001, can you help us out with this one?
Manny
Metro North also has a frequency licensed to them of 161.160 but I can't figure out how it's used yet. If anyone wishes to monitor it along with me, here it is.
http://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?stid=9&freq=161.160&action=sf
Radioman2001, can you help us out with this one?
Manny
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Kitn1mcc
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That is Channel 70 and a major CSX channel
N1SQB
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I realize that. But what I'm wondering is why is Metro North commuter railroad licensed for it? What are THEY using it for? That's what I'm interested in!
Manny
Manny
radioman2001
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161.16 is N Haven line MOW, not used to often and usually by Signal dept and very seldom by Power Director. Also has been used by MTA PD as a Tac channel but I doubt that since they have gotten their APX radios that they will use it much.
There are plans in the works I cannot talk about for the channel, you can see we expanded our coverage of it.
There are plans in the works I cannot talk about for the channel, you can see we expanded our coverage of it.
Kitn1mcc
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They are already Narrow Band
Both Harris and Motorola don't do NXDN
Both Harris and Motorola don't do NXDN
radioman2001
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The only NXDN in use is the radio shop, we have a wide area system with repeaters in all yards and in GCT.
N1SQB
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Thanks radioman! No need to reveal anything. I just wanted to try and understand what that frequency was there for. I do see it is licensed for use
on sites from New Haven all the way down to GCT. THAT is what raised my curiosity.LOL Interesting info on the NXDN system.
Manny
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Is the GCT fire brigade still on analog conventional or have they changed to the NXDN system?
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For now GCT Fire will stay analog VHF on their own channel and not the SMO, there is talk of going UHF possibly on the FDNY system to be installed in GCT by the end of the year.(Yea right). Now that the CDM-1250 and HT-1250 are no more ( I did try to order 4000 portables, but our purchasing system was to slow) we are more than likely switching to the Icom's with NXDN. I have run both the mobile and portables for about 4 years now and they have held up, but then again the radio shop isn't coach cleaners who go through radios like water
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All the radio reprogramming is for RTC channels only, which are NB analog, and no changes to any others. The existing MstrIII bases were just replaced and will not be replaced anytime soon. NXDN has been relagated to support services ONLY, and I don't see it going to be used for RTC within my lifetime with the RR.
All the Class I railroads have said they are not replacing anything for the forseeable future, and there have been no licenses issued (that i have seen)for the splinter channels that are anything but NXDN. We have 18 pairs.
All the Class I railroads have said they are not replacing anything for the forseeable future, and there have been no licenses issued (that i have seen)for the splinter channels that are anything but NXDN. We have 18 pairs.
So the road channels (which I assume are the RTC channels you referenced) are staying NB analog (makes sense), and the GCT/Yard support channels will go NXDN. But all Motorola radios will be replaced with Icom?
Hope I get this right
Hope I get this right
radioman2001
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All radios remaining analog, no plans on going NXDN. The only users of NXDN at this time is the radio shop.
Due to EOL of Motorola analog radio products we are switching to Icom. We were not impressed with any Mototrbo radios we tried, poor analog RX audio in the mobiles and portable battery life sucked as was only about 4 hours in analog. There were other issues, but I am not going to beat a dead horse on Trbo's.
Train radios will remain GE/Harris products, and there is a RFQ out for replacement radios for the Orions on the M-7 and M-7a cars. GE/Trans now QuestRail has expressed interest in manufacturing a custom radio to replace with the same fit and form as the Orions.
Due to EOL of Motorola analog radio products we are switching to Icom. We were not impressed with any Mototrbo radios we tried, poor analog RX audio in the mobiles and portable battery life sucked as was only about 4 hours in analog. There were other issues, but I am not going to beat a dead horse on Trbo's.
Train radios will remain GE/Harris products, and there is a RFQ out for replacement radios for the Orions on the M-7 and M-7a cars. GE/Trans now QuestRail has expressed interest in manufacturing a custom radio to replace with the same fit and form as the Orions.
N1SQB
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MN RR F-2 Harlem Line Question
Recently while monitoring Metro North / MTA frequencies, I noticed what appears to be an ambulance company dispatching loud and clear on the F-2 Harlem line channel 160.280.. They are using a PL of 167,9. I only hear the dispatcher not the rigs themselves. That's not what puzzles, me as I am only interested in RR monitoring on that particular radio. What I don't get is this, if whoever is using that channel in that area is legal, ( I figure Metro North / MTA would have known by now about this otherwise ) then how do the trains operating on that channel in and around that area communicate WITHOUT getting interfered with? Is there a pl / dpl in use on that channel? I'm up here in CT. hearing this, how is this NOT an interference issue for the local train service? It is not just a matter of locking them out temporarily as you can in a scanner either. I'm using a commercial radio ( RX only obviously ) to monitor RR traffic Radioman, could you possibly shed some light on this one? I tried on my own but the FCC database seems to still be down for I.T. maintenance.As I said before though, WHO it is is not as puzzling right now to me as much as how it affects, if at all, local rail traffic.
Manny
Recently while monitoring Metro North / MTA frequencies, I noticed what appears to be an ambulance company dispatching loud and clear on the F-2 Harlem line channel 160.280.. They are using a PL of 167,9. I only hear the dispatcher not the rigs themselves. That's not what puzzles, me as I am only interested in RR monitoring on that particular radio. What I don't get is this, if whoever is using that channel in that area is legal, ( I figure Metro North / MTA would have known by now about this otherwise ) then how do the trains operating on that channel in and around that area communicate WITHOUT getting interfered with? Is there a pl / dpl in use on that channel? I'm up here in CT. hearing this, how is this NOT an interference issue for the local train service? It is not just a matter of locking them out temporarily as you can in a scanner either. I'm using a commercial radio ( RX only obviously ) to monitor RR traffic Radioman, could you possibly shed some light on this one? I tried on my own but the FCC database seems to still be down for I.T. maintenance.As I said before though, WHO it is is not as puzzling right now to me as much as how it affects, if at all, local rail traffic.
Manny
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