Weird air traffic over Macomb County, MI toady. Lots and lots of military activity earlier today. A lot of long constant dead carriers and some signals with just static type noise. Signal strength was good however. A couple air show frequencies were active tonight labeled Diamondformation from RR's database. I'm about 10 miles N-W from Selfridge ANGB.
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I wonder If some out of town traffic came in. I've noticed that you can hear the A-10's pretty clear.
Club 25 E4B 75-0125 currently over Northern Lower Peninsula of Michigan.
Burning 272.325 WFM.
Per ADS-B Exchange. Also Jeep 41 in trail .. possible Refuel for Club 25.
Burning 272.325 WFM.
Per ADS-B Exchange. Also Jeep 41 in trail .. possible Refuel for Club 25.
Jeep 41 is refueling Club 25 on AR 109 heading west
Picking up 272.325 in Battle Creek on the handheld! He's currently over Saginaw, 24k ft.
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JEEP 41 called ops 311.000 with ETA, fuel, & codes a few minutes ago.
CLUB 25 still burning on 272.325
Caught napping on this one today. Good thing a friend called to warn me.
Also as an FYI ... looks like Selfridge A-10's may be tracking now on ADS-B Exchange.
See AE1975 and AE18E5 tracking North near the Thumb .... this would be nice if they leave this on !
See AE1975 and AE18E5 tracking North near the Thumb .... this would be nice if they leave this on !
Now getting A2A on 273.250 in GR.
So what's the purpose/use of the "burn" channel? I picked up the signal, but it just sounded like an open carrier.
See this link : E-6A/B TACAMO AIRCRAFT Navy Training Plan (NTP)
I think we are hearing item #3 as you scroll down.
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That's basically all you'll hear is an open carrier noise.
This is a very specialized communications network that is aboard the 4 E-4B 747-200 NAOC & a few other aircraft in the US. Like AF-1 VC-25A's (747-200). The E-6's can do BURN CH also.
It's also called Northstar / Orderwire, C3, GEP (Ground Entry Point) WBFM. Wright Patterson AFB is the closest GEP station around here. This system keeps an open communications line between Commanders of nuclear forces during or after a Nuke attack.
It's supposed to Burn a signal thru all the noise of an attack. Hence the term BURN CH (Channel). The system is also Hardened against EMP (Electro Magnetic Pulse) effects from the blast. Basically it sounds like an open mike, that you can sometimes hear voice traffic, & a phone ringing in the background, that nobody answers.
I believe there is 8 channels above the main freq, & 8 channels below. That's why it's hard to hear any talking, they're slightly off freq.
I hope the link below works.
Some info on the E-4B 747's.
Federation of American Scientists :: E-4B National Airborne Operations Center
Good job everyone on posting today.
Thanks!
Thanks, Chuck!That's basically all you'll hear is an open carrier noise.
This is a very specialized communications network that is aboard the 4 E-4B 747-200 NAOC & a few other aircraft in the US. Like AF-1 VC-25A's (747-200). The E-6's can do BURN CH also.
It's also called Northstar / Orderwire, C3, GEP (Ground Entry Point) WBFM. Wright Patterson AFB is the closest GEP station around here. This system keeps an open communications line between Commanders of nuclear forces during or after a Nuke attack.
It's supposed to Burn a signal thru all the noise of an attack. Hence the term BURN CH (Channel). The system is also Hardened against EMP (Electro Magnetic Pulse) effects from the blast. Basically it sounds like an open mike, that you can sometimes hear voice traffic, & a phone ringing in the background, that nobody answers.
I believe there is 8 channels above the main freq, & 8 channels below. That's why it's hard to hear any talking, they're slightly off freq.
I hope the link below works.
Some info on the E-4B 747's.
Federation of American Scientists :: E-4B National Airborne Operations Center
Good job everyone on posting today.
Edit: That link doesn't seem to be working. It took me to the FAS, but I got "Page not found".
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I saw on Facebook, JUMBO90 (83-1285) flew into Selfridge on Wednesday (3/3/21). Not sure why they came in
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I see French Air Force Flight CTM1014 is over Montreal at 40K feet, I'm curious as to where they are headed? I know the RAF has been visiting down south(Fort Hood) a lot lately.
CLUB 25 returned to KFFO after refueling. Aircraft was burning 272.325 and the GEP was burning 241.150.
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03-05-21
JEEP 51 not showing as a KC-135? Did we get a new KC-46?
120.150 MTC twr, multiple approaches.
311.000 QUARTERBACK Ops, 02:34pm.
JEEP 51 not showing as a KC-135? Did we get a new KC-46?
120.150 MTC twr, multiple approaches.
311.000 QUARTERBACK Ops, 02:34pm.
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02-05-21
ROYAL 03 C-17 07-7173
311.000 QUARTERBACK Ops, parking west ramp, 90 K on the gas. 04:40pm.
119.600 MTC app, looking for overhead runway 1. Right break, 04:41pm.
120.150 MTC twr, 04:45pm.
ROYAL 03 C-17 07-7173
311.000 QUARTERBACK Ops, parking west ramp, 90 K on the gas. 04:40pm.
119.600 MTC app, looking for overhead runway 1. Right break, 04:41pm.
120.150 MTC twr, 04:45pm.
Earlier this morning one of the F-16s out of Toledo suffered some oil pressure issues after takeoff. He circled the Toledo area for several hours burning off fuel so he could re-land. I believe he eventually landed back at Toledo without incident.
260.900 Huntress
285.400 Toledo Tower UHF
338.150 STING Control UHF
141.650 STING Control VHF
357.100 F-16 A/A
260.900 Huntress
285.400 Toledo Tower UHF
338.150 STING Control UHF
141.650 STING Control VHF
357.100 F-16 A/A
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03-07-21
ROYAL 03 C-17 departed MTC.
JUMBO 90 C-5 departed MTC.
Royal Air Force A330 passing by west bound.
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