Mid-Atlantic (and beyond) MilAir 2025

[Mark]

At 9:41 on the LiveATC KACY Clearance Archive and there was CANNON 1 cleared to Topeka (KFOE) IDd as a single F-16. Didn't hear WAWA but most likely on the 10:00 archive. Will be able to check in about 10 minutes.

Thanks.. Just heard CANNON-1 on ZNY 335.600 descending from FL-250-240 req FL-15k.
Sounds like a rtb A/C push ZDC 363.000 at FL15k then ZDC Casino 285.400 "direct A/C"

 

[apex31]

Thanks.. Just heard CANNON-1 on ZNY 335.600 descending from FL-250-240 req FL-15k.
Sounds like a rtb A/C push ZDC 363.000 at FL15k then ZDC Casino 285.400 "direct A/C"

CANNON-1 now with ACY Approach.

 

[nodak1crdet3]

Do you have any other freqs for Niagara tankers?

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340.025 CARBONATE Ops Niagara.
261.900 FUZZY Ops Niagara. I don't think this is used anymore.

Chuck.

 

[dmi]

@nodak1crdet3 confirm 371.250 as Niagara tanker A-A?

 

[dmi]

ROMAN-81 (single) F-18 VFA-106 - Working one of the VR routes in the area of EVERS MOA

282.200 - ZDC -> 322.550 - ZDC -> 255.400 - FSS​

 

[Mark]

Seems Colombus AFB Miss has T-38 evac going into Ellington Texas.
Colombus area does have bad wx forecast for this weekend...

 

[mdmonitor]

1343- Unid acft on 237.25 ref wx at Reagan Nat'l.

1350- Hearing some weak xmissions on 279.575 the Arlington fly-by freq. Maybe the guys from 237.25?

 

[dmi]

1343- Unid acft on 237.25 ref wx at Reagan Nat'l.

1350- Hearing some weak xmissions on 279.575 the Arlington fly-by freq. Maybe the guys from 237.25?

237.250 has been used by DC ANG discrete

Heard DRAGO-51 X2 (unknown) 348.725 PCT -> 279.575 PCT ANC Fly

DRAGO-51 Probably this guy:

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[mdmonitor]

1415- AF-2 inbound to ADW.

 

[mdmonitor]

237.250 has been used by DC ANG discrete

Heard DRAGO-51 X2 (unknown) 348.725 PCT -> 279.575 PCT ANC Fly

DRAGO-51 Probably this guy:

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Pretty sure the DC ANG F-16s are doing the fly-by

 

[nodak1crdet3]

@nodak1crdet3 confirm 371.250 as Niagara tanker A-A?

Yes. 371.250 is Niagara tanker A/A.



Chuck

 

[dmi]

Pretty sure the DC ANG F-16s are doing the fly-by

Heard DC ANG BULLY-21 and MISTY flights. 226.675 - ZDC Elkins Low. They use this freq when working EVERS MOA
A-A - 240.250, 285.225

DRAGO-51 (2 Ship standard formation) 279.575 PCT -> 281.400 ZDC - Climbing FL260 -> 285.450 ZDC - Climbing FL280
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Side note:
I'm going to add 318.775 - EVERS MOA AR Primary to my list [First Hit: 3/7/2025]

 

[mdmonitor]

Son sent me some pics of U-2 at Akrotiri Cyprus. Neat Snoopy logo w/Red Baron shoot down crosses

 

[Mark]

Space X and NASA gonna try that launch again of 4 astronauts to the ISS at 7:03PM.
Hazy high clouds here but see some blue skies now but will see what looks like this evening.

Some flight of 2 on ZDC Blackstone 235.625 at FL-230?

 

[mdmonitor]

1455- Grizzly 89 (C-17 62nd AW Travis AFB CA) looking like inbound DOV. Departed from Warner-Robbins. Nope, he was checking in w/Brickyard (237.15), so looks like WRI.

1500- Unid flt (call missed-id as flt of two) check in at FL220 w/ZDC Flat Rock (235.625)

 

[apex31]

Maybe A/C folks did ditch all their old Devil,Hades etc callsigns.

1508- HADES flt with ACY APP receiving vectors for initial RWY13.
HADES-14 and 13? still up, -14 told Approach his wingman has no radio so he will hold formation all the way to the straight in.

 

[mdmonitor]

1605- PAAF 602 (Pakistani AF C-130) off NJ inbound to BWI.

 

[Mark]

We talked years ago about ETOPS qualified airlines so this interesting article on ETOPS certification history
When you watch vids on taxiing Commercial jets on that Puerto Rico airport vid site
you see ETOPS on most of the nose gear doors but not all.. Some good comments at end of this article too.
There are other differences between ETOPS certified and standard pax planes.
article comment (some in the industry humorously refer to it as 'engines turn or passengers swim.)

When American Airlines Mistakenly Flew A Non-ETOPS Airbus A321 To Hawaii

10 years ago, the carrier accidentally deployed an A321 without the proper certifications to fly to Hawaii.

simpleflying.com

 

[Tech792]

1658- Hearing weak comms 264.2 HMLA-773 Red Dogs, and seeing a few TIS-B over the Ft Dix ranges

 

[TerryPavlick]

We talked years ago about ETOPS qualified airlines so this interesting article on ETOPS certification history
When you watch vids on taxiing Commercial jets on that Puerto Rico airport vid site
you see ETOPS on most of the nose gear doors but not all.. Some good comments at end of this article too.
There are other differences between ETOPS certified and standard pax planes.
article comment (some in the industry humorously refer to it as 'engines turn or passengers swim.)

When American Airlines Mistakenly Flew A Non-ETOPS Airbus A321 To Hawaii

10 years ago, the carrier accidentally deployed an A321 without the proper certifications to fly to Hawaii.

simpleflying.com

The key question is - was the aircraft ETOPS certified (but the certification was not up to date) or was the aircraft never ETOPS certified. Based on pictures on the internet - the aircraft had ETOPS on the nose gear door panel - so probably the former. Otherwise on the pre-flight check - would think the crew might notice the bright red/orange block with ETOPS in white letters or black letters missing. That should have been the first clue.